10 Commandments Rally

e-mail | 8/7/03 | thinkster

[thinkster]

I received an e-mail yesterday from the Constitution Party (CP)/Alabama informing me of a 10 Commandments Rally scheduled for August 16 at 10:00am in Montgomery, AL in the Judicial Building.The CP is coordinating members from surrounding states to attend this important rally. This rally is in support of Judge Roy Moore, the "10 Commandments Judge," and in support of keeping the beautiful display of GOD'S LAW forever present in the Judicial building. The latest court ruling says the 2 1/2 ton display must be removed within 15 days. For more info contact MaryAnn Crum: e-mail, dcrum@powernet.org

[Noumenon]

This reminds me of a more ominous statement made by historian Norman Cohn, in Warrant for Genocide:

"There exists a subterranean world, where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and superstitious. There are times when that under-world emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, captures, and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people. And it occasionally happens that this subterranean world becomes a political power and changes the course of history."

That is, unfortunately, a perfect description for the hold that communists, socialists, and their idiot bastard children - modern American liberals - have achieved in all of our cultural, educational and spiritual institutions. It is precisely what Gramsci prescribed, predicted and set into motion. There will be a price, payable in blood, for this.

[montag813]

(We've really got to get the socialists off the bench.)

Tell Bill Frist and his pantywaist colleagues who call themselves Conservatives. They seem only interested in bending over for a grinning Chuck Schumer. Talk about "Profiles in Cowardice", the GOP Senate tops the list.

[E.G.C.]

Good morning, David. How's it going?

[Sacajaweau]

Thank you all who will attend this. You speak for me!! It is the test of "Freedom OF Religion"...

[bluelowrider57]

The Constitution says Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

Amen.

[KQQL]

But..
Gossipol according to the "Episcopal Church USA" .. Says

1)Thy shall allow openly-practicing gay Bishops.
2) Thy shall Bless and approve the Same Sex-unions of thy people.
3) Thy shall choose and pick what thy like in the " bible" according to thy needs or wants of thy people.
4) Thy shall only remember only 5/10 Commandments .

[E Rocc]

The Constitution says Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

It says that there shall be no Establishment. That means that government shall not promote any religious belief or set of beliefs, as that would be de facto establishment.

The Ten Commandments in a historical setting along with displays honoring the Code of Hammurabi, Magna Carta, etc. would not violate this restriction. A display which presents them, as a whole, as part of the basis of our law most decidedly does.

-Eric

[Egg]

BTTT! I'm making preparations to attend!

[l8pilot]

I attended the rally, and it was dissappointing.

There were about 3,500 present. Most distressing, several thousand did not come, because they were told they would not be welcome with Confederate flags.

This is a classic 10th Amendment question: Whether the States, or the Federal government, is sovereign? The organisers were too shortsighted, and bigoted, to recognise the question.

The question faced by Alabama on Wednesday, is the same question faced by our ancestors in 1860. Do we have a "division of powers" or is the Federal Government a tyranny?

Sadly, the organisers missed the question.

In Columbia, January of 2000, we had over 10,000 participants. Had the venue been framed to allow Southern activists to participate, the 3,500 could have swelled to 13,500.

The South is still the "Bible Belt", and we wear that label with pride. Just don't tell us that we can't define ourselves with our own flag.

Liberty

Larry Salley

[afz400]

I still gets me how there are so many monuments to the Ten Commandments and almost none to Jesus' two commandments.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Well, well, well! Savage interviewed Judge Roy Moore last night. They talked about the rally. Moore is calling for prayer. Savage is fired up, raising funds for the 10 Commandments [legal] Defense Fund.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"I still gets me how there are so many monuments to the Ten Commandments and almost none to Jesus' two commandments."

Interesting point. The Ten Commandments are more inclusive politically. I can live with that, so far as government buildings are concerned. We're having trouble enough defending that. FReegards....

[Happy2BMe]

The TEN COMMANDMENTS - Who Wants Them Gone The Most (And Why)

[k47]

"There exists a subterranean world, where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and superstitious. There are times when that under-world emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, captures, and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people. And it occasionally happens that this subterranean world becomes a political power and changes the course of history."

yes, that also could be a "perfect description" of christian crusaders in the midst of the dark ages. there are fanatics on both sides.

the government has no role in advertising christianity to its populace. christianty is more than capable of self-sustainment. i fail to understand why this lack of government advertising somehow limits your personal adherence and faith in christianity.

[Noumenon]

Here's a newsflash for you. I'm not a Christian. Let's just say that my Creator and I have come to our own arrangement. And submission has nothing to do with it.

But I cannot countenance the ruthless and relentless campaign to drive any semblance of morality from the public square - all in the name of 'non-judgementalism' and a 'values free' culture. God freaking forbid that someone get offended at someone elses' religious expression.

Tell me - who's being coerced, here? Does the mere presence of a historical religious icon such as this monument somehow violate one of our oh-so-sensitive citizen's 'rights'? And what 'right' would that be?

I assumethat you're not stupid. I assume that that you've some grasp of history and human nature. And if that's so, then you know that when men cannot live by principle, reason is no giude to action, faith of any kind is scorned and anything goes, mass murder, slaughter and atrocity follow.

If you want to indict religious fanaticism, then please direct your attention to the death-worshipping followers of Islam. Your time will be better spent there.

If you're looking a sheer body count, then please direct your attention and your energies to the followers of Kant, Rousseau and Marx - their ideas and the consequences of those ideas resulted in slavery, impoverishment, atrocity and mass murder beyond imagination.

When last I looked - and pelase correct me if I'm wrong - the Christian Crusades ended some time ago. Outside ofa Monty Python skit, it's not likely that we'll return to the tender mercies of the Spanish Inquisition - people like me who own guns and know how to use them will prevent that, just as I would apply the same measures to any other sort of tyrant.

[sinkspur]

the Christian Crusades ended some time ago.

American citizens were burned as witches by American Christians.

Fanatacism is one demagogue away from resurfacing.

[Noumenon]

Fanatacism is one demagogue away from resurfacing.

A astute observation. The history of the previous century certainly bears out the truth of what you say. But what's this? Was the fanaticism of the last 100 years or so a product of Christian ideals - or did the slaughter and misery of those times find their genesis in perhaps - other - ideas? The witch-burning of which you speak was an aberration, but one that hardlyu amounted to what passed for mainstream religious thought at the time. In the same manner, I would not think of using something like the Jonestown horror as a brush with which to characterize all other Christians.

Take another look at those who are protesting, and I think that you'll find a common thread amongst them all - and it isn't witch burning fanaticism. It's an expression of people who are fed up. Fed up with being denigrated and demonized. Fed up with distant legal entities who basically performed the equivalent of spitting in their faces. Fed up with the arbiters of 'tolerance' and 'fairness' who have absolutely no tolerance for anyone who dares disagree with them and whose ideas of 'fair' is to confiscate their money and property when it suits them.

As the author of Unintended Consequences wrote, "It's a bad idea to strip a motivated people of their dignity and rub their noses in it."