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Female Suicide Bombers Unnerve Russians
New York Times ^ | August 7, 2003 | STEVEN LEE MYERS

Posted on 08/07/2003 1:10:19 PM PDT by presidio9

Zulikhan Yelikhadzhiyeva lived much of her short life surrounded by the horrors of the two wars in Chechnya, but she suffered comparatively little.

She lived in a cloistered brick house in this small Chechen village, which has largely escaped war's worst ravages. She studied at the village's medical vocational school and interned at its local clinic.

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Little seems to explain why a month ago, accompanied by another woman, she approached the entrance to a music festival in Moscow and blew herself up. The blast killed only her, but the other woman detonated her own suicide bomb moments later, killing at least 16 people. Ms. Yelikhadzhiyeva was 20.

In the last four months, seven suicide attacks, all but one of them carried out by women, have spread fear across Russia, killing 165 people in all and setting in motion a new dynamic in the four-year-old war against Chechen secessionists.

Russian news media, echoing officials, have dubbed the perpetrators "black widows," women prepared to kill and to die to avenge the deaths of fathers, husbands, brothers and sons at the hands of Russian troops in the current war or the one in the 1990's.

But Ms. Yelikhadzhiyeva — identified, officials said, by a passport found at the scene — does not fit such a description. Here in Chechnya, truth is elusive and what, precisely, drives these women, and how they are recruited, seem murky. Ms. Yelikhadzhiyeva had no dead father, husband, brother or son to motivate her.

The suicide attacks by women have particularly unnerved the Russian authorities, in part because Chechen women had been able to move more freely than Chechen men, who are routinely harassed by Russia's police and security services.

The only recent attack not carried out by a woman was the truck bombing of a military hospital in Mozdok on Friday, which left 50 dead at last count.

In Ms. Yelikhadzhiyeva's case, neither the authorities nor those who knew her could say exactly what compelled her to blow herself up. In February she disappeared in circumstances that remain mysterious.

Her grandmother, Zuda Khasukhanova, said she had been kidnapped on the orders of her half-brother. The authorities said she joined one of Chechnya's rebel groups.

She had not married. According to her grandmother and a neighbor who knew her all her life, she displayed little interest in the radical Islamic ideology that has increasingly characterized Chechnya's separatist fighters. She planned to continue studying medicine.

"We had such a good family," Ms. Khasukhanova said in an interview, punctuated with tears, in the house where she had lived with her granddaughter. "She was like an angel."

Imran Yezhiyev, the head of the Society of Chechen-Russian Friendship, an advocacy group in the region of Ingushetia, on Chechnya's western boundary, said in a telephone interview that the suicide attacks were an inevitable response to the "most crude, the most terrible" crimes Russian forces had committed against Chechen civilians during the war.

"They are desperate because they see no prospect of this horrible war ending," he said of the suicide bombers.

At the same time, though, he said he and other elders had denounced the tactic as anathema to Chechen traditions of honor.

Most Chechens, in fact, have not embraced a cult of martyrdom, as have, for example, Palestinian suicide bombers in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. In Kurchaloi there are no posters or graffiti celebrating Ms. Yelikhadzhiyeva's suicide. Those interviewed here in Chechnya professed shock and horror.

"How can a person who kills somebody get to heaven?" said her grandmother, who is 63. "It's horrible what's going on in Chechnya right now."

Russian officials, who bristle at any suggestion that abuses by Russian forces could have inspired any of the suicide attacks, have blamed the influence of Islamic fundamentalists, including foreign groups associated with international terrorism.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caucasus; caucasuslist; chechnya; chickbic; femalebombers; friedchick; muslimwomen; russia; suicide; waronterror

1 posted on 08/07/2003 1:10:19 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Female Suicide Bombers Unnerve Russians

Well, then maybe the Russians should have supported more aggressive measures by the Israelis to counteract suicide bombers. The Chechens aren't operating in a vacuum.

ML/NJ

2 posted on 08/07/2003 1:20:18 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: presidio9
This is good, no really, very good...I support this. More women suicide and more should join war bands. Why? Easy, do math....hehehehe:

1991 900,000 Chechins 120 million Russians in Russia...now, less then 700,000 Chechins. Till now breeding females spared...so only one male need live to impregnate many women and infest world with future terrorist scum. Now girl, 20, blow self up....that 3-4 Chechins who never born...see Chechins don't breed fast like arab rats, these mountain turds not so fast....but for every little biatch who blow self up, that like prize of 3-4 future dead Chechins. Also this remove restraint from shooting suspected female so even fewer future Chechin....if Chechin keep this up in 20 years maybe 200,000 Chechin left? They war self from existence.

3 posted on 08/07/2003 1:32:55 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: presidio9
"They are desperate because they see no prospect of this horrible war ending," he said of the suicide bombers.

Wrong, what muslim turd mean, they are desperate because they see no prospect of winning and have greater Taliban republic. To damned bad.

4 posted on 08/07/2003 1:36:48 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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5 posted on 08/07/2003 1:36:53 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: presidio9
Maybe Russia should break out it's secret weapon:


6 posted on 08/07/2003 1:37:28 PM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: RussianConservative
This is good, no really, very good...I support this. More women suicide and more should join war bands. Why? Easy, do math....hehehehe: . ... .

if Chechin keep this up in 20 years maybe 200,000 Chechin left? They war self from existence.

If it weren't that they're taking other casualties along with them, I could go along with your math. But that is but one of the two reasons I disagree with your cool mathmatical analysis, attractive as it appears at first glance. There are likely others.

Maybe we've been too quick to condemn genocide as a solution to such problems. But for now, enforcing a 1KM zone against the approach of any Chechnyans would be a good start.

-archy-/-

7 posted on 08/07/2003 1:51:30 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: ServesURight
Maybe Russia should break out it's secret weapon:

She is not only a possible if unlikely weapon, but very probably a tempting target as well. I hope she has a competent security detail aware of the possibility of her being so targeted by the muslum fanatics.

-archy-/-

8 posted on 08/07/2003 1:54:44 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: presidio9
It would make us here in the States crap our pants, too.
9 posted on 08/07/2003 5:00:21 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: RussianConservative
>>This is good, no really, very good...I support this. More women suicide and more should join war bands. Why? Easy, do math....hehehehe:<<

But the Chechens are good people. They have been fighting for decades a legitimate jihad of self-defense against the Russians, to preserve their traditional lands and their Sufis religion. And these traditonal Chechens repeatedly offered us help in beating bin Laden - help that we scorned.

The problem is the evil Saudi Wahhabis, who, in 1996, began flooding the Caucasus with money, weapons and priests, as part of their global colonization efforts. Atthe same time, the Saudi-funded al-Qaida sent a Saudi agent from Afghanistan (named Khattab), to try to do to Chechnya what Osama bin Laden and the Taliban were in the process of doing to that country. (Khattab was an evil man--addicted to videotaping and watching the atrocities commited by Wahhabis against Russian soldiers, films that are for sale in Wahhabi mosques around the world.)

The Saudis also opened up camps and schools in Chechnya (just as they do here in the United States), so they could agitate for the Wahhabi death-cult, Shariah punishments, a ban on music, the covering of women, and the rejection of Sufism. Just as they won over some disaffected youth in America, they managed to win over these Chechnyan women suicide terrorists.

To make matters worse, Khattab and the Wahhabis assassinated many local Chechnya leaders and Muslim clerics, and they launched an attack into neighboring Daghestan. Putin and the Wahhabis then declared to the world that the Chechens and their President had committed these acts.


Whenever suicide terrorism emerges in an area, including in the United States, one knows that the Saudi's have been successful at entrenching the Wahhabis death-cult close by.
10 posted on 08/07/2003 9:55:33 PM PDT by Risa
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To: ml/nj
>>The Chechens aren't operating in a vacuum.<<

The Chechens have been infiltrated by the Saudis and the Wahhabi death-cult.


11 posted on 08/07/2003 9:56:35 PM PDT by Risa
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To: Risa; Destro; MarMema; FormerLib; George W. Bush
Are you serious? Or are you drug user? CThey have been fighting for decades a legitimate jihad of self-defense against the Russians,

Chechins had 3 years independece...during time, they kidnap 1,500 people for ransom and slavery. They bomb 3 apartment building. They butcher and drive out remaining christians, including killing several US preachers. They butcher Red Cross mission. Kill 4 British Telecom workers. Kidnap & kill Russian general on diplomat mission. Run heroine, run white slave trade, and become safe heaven for Islamic jihaders...and this as independents...but final straw was when the Chechin Defense Minister Baseyov led invasion of neighboring Daghistan to create greater Taliban Republic of North Caucuses. When locals refused offer, they butcher 3 whole villages...all video taped too. So I not know where you get your ideas...NYT? But you are way off.

Ask yourself why so many dead Chechins in Afghanistan and Chechins sit in Cuba now? Ask self why dead Chechins in Palistine and in Iraq?

First thing Chechins do is drive out Christian Cossaks from N. Chechin plain, where no Chechins ever lived...area added to official Chechnya by Soviet scum...that area always Russian Christian Cossaks. Then they drive out Georgians, other Russians, Jews and Armenians...total 400,000 peoples from original population in area of 1,200,000...out of 800,000 actual Chechins, almost half ran into Russia to get away from own warlords.

Your poor Chechins on Easter 1994 took all Russian prisoners, cut off thumb and first 2 fingers on right hand (for crossing) and crucified victems, left bodies on top of buildings as show.

You have not clue what you talk of. Chechins may now be Wahhabi but they always murderous...that why 22 ethnic groups in Daghistan (all moslem) dispise Chechins and all other groups too....they never have more industry then slavery...which is why Russia went in in first place....1700's Chechin slave raids...they selling to Khanite of Khiva Russian women.

12 posted on 08/08/2003 7:51:50 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: RussianConservative
Didn't Bush negotiate an agreement with Putin over using heavy weapons, including nukes, on the Chechens in return for the Russians tolerating our possible use of them in Iraq?

Maybe you guys need to use a few tactical nukes against their strongholds. Even barbarians would get the picture pretty well.

I don't see much reason to have sympathy for Chechnya. But here in the West, our leaders and media take the side of any non-Christian group out of reflex.
13 posted on 08/08/2003 2:49:33 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Risa; RussianConservative; George W. Bush
The Chechens have been infiltrated by the Saudis and the Wahhabi death-cult.

No other society infiltrated has embraced it with such an overwhelming degree of barbarism and cruelty. The chechens outdo most of the barbaric societies ever on this planet. Had to be something there to begin with... and there was. This was a culture which promoted a warrior mentality far before the Wahabbis came to town. Their childrens books are about great men who kill a lot of other men. Not many places in our lifetime have run a human slave market in the capitol city with such success as the chechens. And right next door sold videos of men having their throats slit with such fervor.

Russia would do us all a favor by eliminating this race of people from the earth. Blood and guts is what they live for, and they enjoy inflicting terror on others. They make Hussein look like a peacenik.

Last thing I ran across on the internet was a story about some street chechens who gutted a 5 month old infant in front of the mom for fun.

Last time kavkaz was up they were sporting a few choice pics to share - one of a soldier who had just been castrated with his pants around his knees and blood all over the place. And some body parts of Russian soldiers they had killed, a liver or something.

The chechens give one pause to use the word "human" in describing them. Spare me your naivete.

14 posted on 08/09/2003 9:16:01 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: RussianConservative
>>Or are you drug user?... So I not know where you get your ideas...NYT? <<

Oh, my, I do not use drugs, and I do not rely on the New York Times as a news resource.

After reading the many responses to my post from people who have direct knowledge of the Chechens, I recognize that I have been misinformed. My view diverges from truth and needs to be revised.

As I expressed to Marmema in an earlier post, I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I apologize to you if I have done so.

regards,
risa
15 posted on 08/10/2003 11:53:41 PM PDT by Risa
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To: Risa
No problem...maybe I was to harsh in choices of words. But Chechins are scum quite simple as that.
16 posted on 08/11/2003 9:46:09 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: George W. Bush
"But here in the West, our leaders and media take the side of any non-Christian group out of reflex."

Yep, at least one of the two "rebel" groups in Liberia is muslim. Charles Taylor, whatever his faults, is Christian.

17 posted on 08/11/2003 10:18:27 AM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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