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Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
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| August 6, 2003
| Charles Smith
Posted on 08/06/2003 12:35:40 PM PDT by HighRoadToChina
Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand Charles R. Smith Wednesday August 6, 2003
NewsMax.com has obtained exclusive photos of a buried Iraqi jet fighter being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops. The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sands after an informant tipped off U.S. troops. Click here to see the MiG buried in the Iraqi desert.
The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two-dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sands, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.
Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era.
The Russian made MiG-25 Foxbat recovered by U.S. Army troops in the pictures, is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the west and is equipped with sophisticated electronics warfare devices.
U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth moving equipment to uncover the MiG which is over 70 feet long and weights nearly 25 tons.
Click here to see troops digging the MiG out of its hole.
Click here to see troops towing the jet away.
All photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF
The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet.
The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian and French made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U.N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.
The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and in many cases had their wings removed, before being buried over ten feet underneath the Iraqi desert.
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The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is larger in size than California and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war.
U.S. intelligence sources have already uncovered several mass grave burial sites in the open deserts with an estimated 10,000 dead hidden there. In addition, Iraq previously hid SCUD missiles, chemical weapons and biological warheads by burying them under the desert sands. U.N. inspection teams found the weapons in the early 1990s after detailed information of the exact locations was obtained.
Top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay is known to favor human intelligence as the primary means to find Iraq's hidden treasure trove of weapons and secrets.
While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.
Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the President misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely. Bush administration officials are keeping any such discoveries secret for the moment.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allyourmigs; arebelongtous; britanniaisatroll; foxbat; iraq; iraqiairforce; mig; migs; pictures; rebuildingiraq; trollalert; trollbane; trollinthread; wmd
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To: b4its2late; Northern Yankee
bttt
21
posted on
08/06/2003 12:42:11 PM PDT
by
kayak
(God bless President Bush, our military, and our nation!)
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: bedolido
F-14 did a max of about Mach 2.1.
23
posted on
08/06/2003 12:42:56 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Credo
I seem to remember readng that it can exceed Mach 3 for short periods of time, but then need the engines totally rebuilt. Since they were built to intercept bombers with nukes, you either got the job done, or it didn't matter anymore.
24
posted on
08/06/2003 12:43:08 PM PDT
by
StriperSniper
(Make South Korea an island)
To: Sparta
Ok, amaze me with some examples.
25
posted on
08/06/2003 12:43:10 PM PDT
by
ASA Vet
("Those who know, don't talk. Those who talk, don't know." (I'm in the Sgt Schultz group))
To: ASA Vet
I know Russian fighter's engines are supposedly less susceptible to foreign object damage (fod), but this is a bit much!
26
posted on
08/06/2003 12:43:15 PM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(I get subtlety lessons from martin_fierro)
To: Nucluside
I do know an Iraqi who is well connected. FRemail me who you are and what you would like to do in Iraqi as an archeologist and I'll forward the info to him.
To: babyface00
"What does the head of your average liberal and a Mig-25 have in common...? Looking at the picture, I started to say "a point". But that just can't be right. What point does a liberal have?
28
posted on
08/06/2003 12:43:50 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: Pyro7480
I don't think the MiG-25 can go Mach 3.The one they found isn't going to hit Mach .00003
To: bedolido
It's got to be embarrassing to have one of your best dug out of the sand intact. Might be refurbished to give the guys at Top Gun some fun.
Maybe that's one of the reasons the Ruskies didn't want to play.
30
posted on
08/06/2003 12:44:24 PM PDT
by
js1138
To: ASA Vet
I've heard the combination used once before - slightly different context.
"Although sophisticated listening devices were available, the Russian government was able to secure phone sex tapes of President Clinton and Monica Lewinsky with standard surveillance equipment. Many great guffaws were shared over a glass of chilled vodka."
31
posted on
08/06/2003 12:44:49 PM PDT
by
Quilla
To: Pyro7480
I don't think the MiG-25 can go Mach 3.
When I was in the USAF there was a scare about this aircraft because it was clocked at Mach3 somewhere in the middle east. (If my memory is correct it was Egypt) A little while after we got the report that it in fact had been clocked at mach3 but that it was a result of something called afterburner run-on and the aircraft came apart. I understand the principle but not being a jet engine guy, I never understood why they couldn't just shut off the fuel. Anyway, I have no idea it it was true or not, but it was told through official channels.
32
posted on
08/06/2003 12:44:51 PM PDT
by
CCCV
To: ASA Vet
Interesting story here. In the mid 1980's the US military scoffed at the Soviet's use of miniturazed vacuum tubes in their equipment until someone pointed out that vacuum tubes are immune from an electromagnetic pulse.
33
posted on
08/06/2003 12:45:22 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
See post #32. There seems to be debate over its top speed.
34
posted on
08/06/2003 12:46:11 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
To: ASA Vet
35
posted on
08/06/2003 12:46:39 PM PDT
by
Sparta
(Send the Palestinians to their homeland, Jordan.)
To: HighRoadToChina
Surely this was an authorized armament, not an undisclosed acquisition from Russia.
36
posted on
08/06/2003 12:46:48 PM PDT
by
AMNZ
To: js1138
Mabybe they can find some newer toys to play with. Maybe some MiG-29's. Yea! That would be the bomb!
37
posted on
08/06/2003 12:47:23 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Sparta
Not destroyed. Disabled.
38
posted on
08/06/2003 12:47:39 PM PDT
by
Spruce
To: bedolido
The Foxbat was designed to do Mach 2.8, but they set a redline of Mach 2.5 as any faster caused damage to the engines. US radar once tracked one over Israel at just over Mach 3. When it landed in Egypt its engines were total losses.
To: CCCV
This sounds sort of like the scare involving early Soviet nuclear subs. There was an incident where an aircraft carrier was being tracked by a Soviet sub, and the sub was able to keep up with the carrier, which was going 30+ knots. The only reason that they were able to go that fast was because the Soviet shipbuilders cut back on radiation shielding, and because of that, many of the sailors who served on such subs got cancer.
40
posted on
08/06/2003 12:50:30 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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