A sodomist bishop? Why not a sadomasochist bishop?

WorldNetDaily ^ | August 5, 2003 | Les Kinsolving

[UnklGene]

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A sodomist bishop? Why not a sadomasochist bishop?

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© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Among the 300 reporters covering the Episcopal Church's General (national) Convention in Minneapolis, Alan Cooperman of the Washington Post quoted New Hampshire's Bishop-elect Vicky Gene Robinson, age 56, about his 50-year-old homosexual lover Mark Andrew:

I believe that God gave us the gift of sexuality so that we might express with our bodies the love that's in our hearts. I think that's true of marriage and I think that's why we hold marriage to be a sacrament. Can we imagine the General Convention of 2006?

The Diocese of New York has elected a new bishop who is an active member of the Eulenspiegle Society, nationally headquartered in Greenwich Village.

This is the national organization for sadomasochists.

The Rev. I.M. DeSade, of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, has left his wife and two children because he realized that he is a sadist – although, he emphasized, that he never beat his wife or children.

In testimony before a General Convention committee – accompanied by his "companionate loved-one" as he described his companion, masochist Payneis Pleasure, age 50 – Fr. DeSade told the committee:

I believe that God gives us the gift of sadomasochism so that we might express with our bodies the love that's in our hearts. I love to beat Payneis; and Payneis is here to testify that he just loves to be beaten by me. That is a mutual love that is a sacrament, surely, if God is love.

In Minneapolis on Friday, Bishop-elect Robinson went on to declare:

In my relationship with my partner, I am able to express the deep love that's in my heart, and in his unfailing and unquestioning love of me, I experience just a little bit of the kind of never-ending, never-failing love that God has for me. So it's sacramental for me.

In 2006, at the General Convention, Bishop-elect DeSade has a similar statement:

In my relationship with my partner, I am able to express the deep love in my heart for beating, knowing that Payneis' love of being beaten is unfailing and unquestioning – and he loves me for doing it, just as I love him for taking it. So it's sacramental for me.

Bishop-elect DeSade adds: "I know that voting to consecrate a sodomist bishop three years ago has, as Bishop Bana of Albany predicted then, lost the Episcopal Church "vast number of congregations, members and revenues. But it is simply imperative that we avoid the sin of discriminatory sexual orientationalism – by allowing consecration of bishops who are buggers, but refusing to consecrate bishops who are beaters – of masochists who love to be beaten!"

[jjm2111]

Bump.

[UnklGene]

He loves to beat his "Payneis."

[LiteKeeper]

1 Tim 3:2 says the "overseer" (grk: episcopos) must be "above reproach." Now the world is taking pot-shots at the ECUSA because of the lifestyle of this man - he, and the denomination, are now being reproached.

This is just another DQ on his slate. Robinson needs to step aside now...for the sake of the ECUSA and the Anglican Communion and for the Church world-wide!

[laweeks]

No problem. Anybody this far out and irreligious, and apparently unrepentent, gets THROWN OUT of the church and is not allowed to perform any religious rites until he seeks and gets help. No problem. So easy. The church will not do it because of their worry about bad press down here on earth. I fear the people who CAN do something about this madness will share hell with these perverts. This should be a no-brainer.

[ken5050]

Well, at least he didn't say that he "nailed him to the cross"

[jjm2111]

Also, do these guys wear leather to the service, or what?

[tractorman]

In other news, Bishop Pat McGroin was interviewed with his life partner, Polly the parrot. Polly will tell you how much she’s in love with McGroin too!

McGroin hopes to be head Bishop some day in any church.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"A sodomist bishop? Why not a sadomasochist bishop? ^"

Beats me.

[I still care]

I can't resist here printing the marriage ceremony...

You would think that homosexuals would understand that what they think they want simply isn't marriage, no matter how much they try to make it so.

"DEARLY beloved, we are gathered together here in the sight of God, and in the face of this congregation, to join together this Man and this Woman in holy Matrimony; which is an honourable estate, instituted of God in the time of man's innocency, signifying unto us the mystical union that is betwixt Christ and his Church; which holy estate Christ adorned and beautified with his presence, and first miracle that he wrought, in Cana of Galilee; and is commended of Saint Paul to be honourable among all men: and therefore is not by any to be enterprised, nor taken in hand, unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly, to satisfy men's carnal lusts and appetites, like brute beasts that have no understanding; but reverently, discreetly, advisedly, soberly, and in the fear of God; duly considering the causes for which Matrimony was ordained."

"First, It was ordained for the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord, and to the praise of his holy Name."

"Secondly, It was ordained for a remedy against sin, and to avoid fornication; that such persons as have not the gift of continency might marry, and keep themselves undefiled members of Christ's body."

"Thirdly, It was ordained for the mutual society, help, and comfort, that the one ought to have of the other, both in prosperity and adversity. Into which holy estate these two persons present come now to be joined. Therefore if any man can shew any just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him now speak, or else hereafter for ever hold his peace."

[BibChr]

Ouch.

[Roughneck]

A sodomist bishop? Why not a sadomasochist bishop? ^"

Why not a pedophile Bishop?...Oh, excuse me, I guess that position has been filled (yes, sarcasim)

[CyberAnt]

In watching FOX interview several other "Bishops" today, and then having scriptures in Timothy quoted to them, they deny GOD's words.

"Homosexuality is an abomination in the sight of GOD"

I think that's very plain! You're either with GOD or you're against HIM. Apparently the Bishops of the Episcopal Church are against HIM. What a sad condition for the people - their church has substituted the truth for PC.

[ChadsDad]

That's very good. :)

[Russell Scott]

Forget for a moment this guy is a homosexual. The 700 club interviewed him. He doesn't even believe Jesus Christ, and His atonement, is the only way to receive eternal salvation, or the Bible is God's word. Why he even associates with this "Christian" church, speaks volumes about what a total joke the Episcopal Church has become. My advice to Episcopalians, leave that church as quickly as possible.

[Salman]

It's going to be an issue, this is not a mere rhetorical reductio ad absurdem.

"S&M spirituality" gets three hits on Google, but I didn't feel like following the links.

[I still care]

Wow - I wasn't aware of that. If he denies Jesus Christ as our Saviour, he isn't even a Christian at all. And any church that backs him up is just a heresy.