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Saddam Dead or Alive - Pentagon Says It Has No Preference
Associated Press ^ | Jul 29, 2003 | Pauline Jelinek

Posted on 07/29/2003 2:44:36 PM PDT by New Horizon

WASHINGTON (AP) - In the end, Saddam Hussein probably will be the one to decide whether he's taken dead or alive, Pentagon officials said Tuesday. They played down talk that his capture might be imminent. On Capitol Hill, Bush administration officials drew angry responses when they refused to give senators rough estimates on the amount of money and troops it will cost to continue to occupy Iraq.

At the Pentagon, officials were asked about a flurry of comments this week from commanders on the ground in Iraq indicating that Saddam was running out of places to hide.

Since Saddam's sons Odai and Qusai were killed last week, Iraqis have been coming forward with more and better tips on his whereabouts, Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said at a joint press conference with Lt. Gen. Northon Schwartz, operations director for the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Pressed on commanders' assertions that they are closing in on Saddam, Schwartz said "I think we should not focus excessively on Saddam Hussein. ... Do I believe that we will ultimately apprehend Saddam Hussein? I think that is the case."

Whether he will be taken dead or alive is another question.

Di Rita said he knows of no instructions that troops try harder to do one or the other.

"This is a decision that's taken on the ground," said Schwartz, adding that it's tactical, complex and depends on circumstances as well as "the character of the target."

"Given that array of considerations, the commander on the ground makes a decision on whether it is capture or kill," he said.

"The decisions made by the individual being pursued will prevail in most cases if he doesn't wish to be taken alive," said Di Rita. "In many cases it's difficult to take them alive."

Some Iraqis said it would have been better if U.S. troops had captured Saddam's hated and feared sons so they could stand trial for decades of alleged atrocities and others said they might have had valuable information on weapons programs and other issues.

Commanders said the pair chose to fight to the death. And if Saddam's purported words are any indication, he too, might choose that option.

A new audiotape attributed to him and broadcast Tuesday on Arab satellite station Al-Arabiya acknowledges the deaths of the sons last week and says they will be martyrs in heaven.

"Even if Saddam Hussein has 100 children other than Odai and Qusai, Saddam Hussein would offer them the same path," the voice on the nine-minute tape said. "Thank God for what he destined for us, and honored us with their martyrdom for his sake."

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House budget chief Joshua Bolten told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the ongoing U.S. role in Iraq will be expensive but worth the cost.

When pressed for specifics, both men declined to say what the administration thinks the costs will be in 2004 and beyond. Bolten said President Bush's 2005 budget, to be presented early next year, would not initially include any funds for U.S. operations in Iraq because they are too unpredictable.

"Give me a break, will you?" responded Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden, the panel's top Democrat. "When will you guys start being honest with us?"

When Wolfowitz said it is "very misleading" to raise the issue of honesty, Biden replied that it is a matter of "candor. ... You know there's going to be at least 100,000 American forces there for the next calendar year and you're not asking us for any money."

In less confrontational tones, committee Chairman Richard Lugar, R-Ind., told the officials that the administration should provide "at least some idea of what is likely to be required of the American taxpayer."

There are about 148,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, a figure unlikely to change much in the near future even if some foreign troops arrive, said Gen. John Keane, acting Army chief of staff.

The military's costs this year were averaging $3.9 billion a month, officials have said.

"We don't have any reason to expect a dramatic change in that number," Bolten said, though he expressed reluctance to rely on that figure beyond the next couple of months.

The testimony comes as the administration is projecting this year's federal deficit will be a record $455 billion, soaring in 2004 to $475 billion. Next year's figure does not include estimated costs of activities in Iraq.

It also comes as Americans struggle to reconstruct Iraq and win over the population, and as U.S. forces suffer a steady trickle of casualties.

Some troops in Iraq for many months - and their families - have expressed impatience. And some lawmakers of both parties have criticized the administration's rationales for the war and its postwar policies.

Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee, among the Senate's most moderate Republicans, said "we just haven't seen the proof" of links the administration has claimed existed between Iraq and the terror network al-Qaida.

Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., accused the administration of "constantly trying to pretend that Sept. 11 and Iraq are the same issue."

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AP congressional reporter Alan Fram contributed to this report.


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KEYWORDS: dead; decapitation; hussein; iraq; pentagon; saddam
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1 posted on 07/29/2003 2:44:36 PM PDT by New Horizon
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To: New Horizon
I do.
2 posted on 07/29/2003 2:45:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Everybody wave to the Copy and Paster in Chief!)
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To: Howlin
So what is it?
3 posted on 07/29/2003 2:46:43 PM PDT by demlosers (Come out of the shadows)
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To: Howlin
Yep...ditto.
4 posted on 07/29/2003 2:46:50 PM PDT by New Horizon
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To: New Horizon
Personally prefer him DOA! Don't want to see a trial that would turn into a 3-ring circus!
5 posted on 07/29/2003 2:47:04 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: PhiKapMom
Agreed.
6 posted on 07/29/2003 2:49:19 PM PDT by Dog (Drove my Jagwire to the Quagmire but the Quagmire was DRY!!!)
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To: New Horizon
If he turns out dead; some lucky sod gets $20 Million (??)

If he turns out alive; some lucky sod gets $20 Million, his defense team will get $100 Million from the US taxpayers, his bodyguards and security will cost another $100 Million; and he'll be set free in a few years.

I like the economical solution, personally.
7 posted on 07/29/2003 2:49:56 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Personally prefer him DOA! Don't want to see a trial that would turn into a 3-ring circus!

I could be entertaining. The French and the Euros would plead to spare his life. The Iraqis and US would want to see his head on a pike.

8 posted on 07/29/2003 2:50:50 PM PDT by demlosers (Come out of the shadows)
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To: New Horizon
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not both? Capture him alive, extract any useful information from him, then he's unfortunately killed while trying to escape.
9 posted on 07/29/2003 2:52:19 PM PDT by RoughDobermann (Who are you tryin' to get crazy with, ese? Don't you know I'm loco?)
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To: PhiKapMom
No way we ever have a trial. This bastard dies. I want em dead. Body guards . . . dead. Doubles . . . dead. Children . . . dead. I say waste the whole entourage!
10 posted on 07/29/2003 2:53:33 PM PDT by jayef
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To: jayef
Dead will be fine!!
11 posted on 07/29/2003 2:56:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: New Horizon
Personally, I think it's still likely Saddam is a grease spot at the bottom of a crater.
12 posted on 07/29/2003 2:58:15 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: New Horizon
Well, we could try "dead" first and if we didn't like that we could always go the other way...
13 posted on 07/29/2003 2:59:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PhiKapMom
Or every Terrorist nutjob in the world will hijack planes and school busses to get Soddom released!
14 posted on 07/29/2003 3:00:35 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: Dog; PhiKapMom
What's that Dylan line, I think from his rendition of Charlie Patton's old blues song, "High Water".

"Said to the High Sherrif, I want him dead or alive,

either one, I don't care."

15 posted on 07/29/2003 3:03:50 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: backhoe; HAL9000; piasa; Stand Watch Listen; DoughtyOne
ISLAM ONLINE.net: "SADDAM PAYS TRIBUTE TO KILLED SONS" (July 29, 2003)
http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/29/article09.shtml

JIHAD ONLINE.net: "Iraqi Resistance : English: Iraqi group says attacks not connected to Saddam
Posted by admin on Wednesday, July 30 @ 05:19:31 EDT

A group of Iraqi fighters told an Arabic channel television that assaults on American occupation forces are executed by Islamists rather than supporters of the ousted president, Saddam Hussein.

"I swear to you in the name of God that we know about all the resistance activities that carried out inside Iraq," a masked fighter have said in an interview, aired by Abu Dhabi television.


"They are all carried out in the name of Allah, none of them have any links to the former regime... All Iraqis have been harmed by the former regime," he conveyed.

"America and its allies say they have tanks, they have warplanes, they have technology. We have something stronger than all of this. We have God supporting us," he said.
Note: Old article, but we would like to emphasize on what these courageous people hade to say in theire statement."
http://www.jihadonline.net/new/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=16

http://www.jihadonline.net

AS-SAHWAH.com (ISLAMICAWAKENING.com): "JIHAAD" (The Discussion Board)
http://www.as-sahwah.com/discus/messages/6/6.html
16 posted on 07/29/2003 3:06:18 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: PhiKapMom
Personally prefer him DOA! Don't want to see a trial that would turn into a 3-ring circus!

Some of you people would never make it as television producers!

What the hell else is going to be entertaining for the next year?

His trial will be the best show since “The Odd Couple.”

An orange jumpsuit! French lawyers with Inspector Clouseau accents! Crying victims! Saddam outbursts! UN confusion! Saddam pretending to cry when they bring up Uday and Booday! Cross examinations ("...so you claim the man's head just fell off?") Street protests – both for and against! Death threats! Celebrity tirades!

It’s Saddam’s trial or another year of American Idol. I know what I’m rooting for.

17 posted on 07/29/2003 3:08:57 PM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: demlosers
D-E-A-D.
18 posted on 07/29/2003 3:11:56 PM PDT by Howlin (Everybody wave to the Copy and Paster in Chief!)
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To: New Horizon
eureka! would prefer that the evil one suffer 400,000 painful deaths, a conservative estimate of those suffered by his victims.....
19 posted on 07/29/2003 3:14:06 PM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: BOBTHENAILER; PhiKapMom; Howlin
Fox News: 30 raids in the last 2 days ...thanks to tips from Iraqi's..
20 posted on 07/29/2003 3:14:27 PM PDT by Dog (Drove my Jagwire to the Quagmire but the Quagmire was DRY!!!)
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