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San Jose Teen Dies Trading Friendly Punches With Pal
Los Angeles Times ^ | 07-29-2003 | Hilda Munoz

Posted on 07/29/2003 6:45:55 AM PDT by boris

San Jose Teen Dies Trading Friendly Punches With Pal

Officials decline to press charges. They say game is a common 'test of manhood' and doesn't have a high death risk.

By Hilda Munoz, Times Staff Writer

A punching contest between two teenage friends Sunday ended when one of the boys died in front of his San Jose home after receiving a blow to the chest.

Jacob Salas, 16, was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital, authorities said.

Richard Jimenez, 19, who allegedly delivered the fatal blow, fled the scene but was arrested at a friend's house five hours later and booked on suspicion of involuntary manslaughter, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: death; friendly; punch
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1 posted on 07/29/2003 6:45:55 AM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Hold muh...
2 posted on 07/29/2003 6:46:05 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: boris
OK - let's see who can hit the lightest. You first...
3 posted on 07/29/2003 6:47:05 AM PDT by TomServo ("One good thing about the apocalypse -- always plenty of parking.")
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4 posted on 07/29/2003 6:48:08 AM PDT by eyespysomething (I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: boris
Stupid kids. Geez,...
5 posted on 07/29/2003 6:51:29 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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6 posted on 07/29/2003 6:53:13 AM PDT by eyespysomething (I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: boris
Yes...rare, but certainly well-known in the medical literature. Hard, blunt trauma to the chest can cause cardiac arrhythmia and/or arrest. Sad story.
7 posted on 07/29/2003 6:53:38 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: boris

One dead vato.

8 posted on 07/29/2003 6:54:20 AM PDT by csvset
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To: boris
I'm not registering. Do we have to excerpt the LA Times?

BTW, a punch directly to the sternum delivered w/ enough force can do enough damage to screw up one's heart. (I'm not sure if it changes the rhythm or what.) Most of the time, this game wouldn't be dangerous because the blows would be delivered to the pecs, shoulders and many times they would only be glancing ones.
9 posted on 07/29/2003 6:57:24 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Pharmboy
Sad story.

I agree.

IMO, The "puncher" should be smart and own up ASAP.
10 posted on 07/29/2003 6:59:44 AM PDT by mr.pink
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To: jjm2111
"I'm not registering. Do we have to excerpt the LA Times? "

Yes.

How About a Nice Hawaiian Punch?

11 posted on 07/29/2003 7:01:00 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: boris
This is not the first time. I remember a few years ago the same thing happened. They punch each other in the chest as "test". The boy that died was I think about 14, and all the kids were amazed he died - seems they do this all the time. It seems the puncher was a good friend.

This seems to be part of certain public highschools culture. It is one of the reasons I homeschool. I don't have to waste time and effort convincing my kids this is stupid.
12 posted on 07/29/2003 7:17:09 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Pharmboy
Yes...rare, but certainly well-known in the medical literature. Hard, blunt trauma to the chest can cause cardiac arrhythmia and/or arrest.

Its also a rare, but not unheard-of youth hockey hazard, and has influenced the design of some shoulder (and chest) pads. A slap-shot can pack quite a punch.

13 posted on 07/29/2003 7:26:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; boris; mr.pink
A recent review of this post-trauma cardiac syndrome.

JAMA. 2002 Mar 6;287(9):1142-6.

Clinical profile and spectrum of commotio cordis.

Maron BJ, Gohman TE, Kyle SB, Estes NA 3rd, Link MS.

Minneapolis Heart Institute Foundation, 920 E 28th St, Suite 60, Minneapolis, MN 55407, USA. hcm.maron@mhif.org

CONTEXT: Although blunt, nonpenetrating chest blows causing sudden cardiac death (commotio cordis) are often associated with competitive sports, dangers implicit in such blows can extend into many other life activities. OBJECTIVE: To describe the comprehensive spectrum of commotio cordis events. DESIGN AND SETTING: Analysis of confirmed cases from the general community assembled in the US Commotio Cordis Registry occurring up to September 1, 2001. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Commotio cordis event. RESULTS: Of 128 confirmed cases, 122 (95%) were in males and the mean (SD) age was 13.6 (8.2) years (median, 14 years; range, 3 months to 45 years); only 28 (22%) cases were aged 18 years or older. Commotio cordis events occurred most commonly during organized sporting events (79 [62%]), such as baseball, but 49 (38%) occurred as part of daily routine and recreational activities. Fatal blows were inflicted with a wide range of velocities but often occurred inadvertently and under circumstances not usually associated with risk for sudden death in informal settings near the home or playground. Twenty-two (28%) participants were wearing commercially available chest barriers, including 7 in whom the projectile made direct contact with protective padding (baseball catchers and lacrosse/hockey goalies), and 2 in whom the projectile was a baseball specifically designed to reduce risk. Only 21 (16%) individuals survived their event, with particularly prompt cardiopulmonary resuscitation/defibrillation (most commonly reversing ventricular fibrillation) the only identifiable factor associated with a favorable outcome. CONCLUSIONS: The expanded spectrum of commotio cordis illustrates the potential dangers implicit in striking the chest, regardless of the intent or force of the blow. These findings also suggest that the safety of young athletes will be enhanced by developing more effective preventive strategies (such as chest wall barriers) to achieve protection from ventricular fibrillation following precordial blows.

14 posted on 07/29/2003 7:35:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
The opposite of a precordial thump, which is administered to a person in cardiac arrest.

I wonder if the kid had just thumped him again...would it reverse it?

Wow.
15 posted on 07/29/2003 7:42:56 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks for the info....my pop was a heart surgeon, so I had bit of a general understanding of this type of occurrence.
16 posted on 07/29/2003 7:46:18 AM PDT by mr.pink
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To: boris

Valuing the Difference of the Multicultural Diversity Alert!

After all, who are we to judge the culture of others...?

17 posted on 07/29/2003 7:57:45 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: boris
Hold muh...

To bystander, "Hold my "STUPID" sign and nomination for my Darwin award while we trade punches".

18 posted on 07/29/2003 8:36:44 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: 2Jedismom
If he was in ventricular fibrillation, it prolly would not have helped.
19 posted on 07/29/2003 6:25:53 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: boris
Oh man, This is awful, and awfully stupid! This is what makes a man huh? Now I understand!
20 posted on 07/29/2003 6:29:00 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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