Response to Freepers who OPPOSE HJR 56

David C. Osborne ^ | 27 July 2003 | David C. Osborne

[davidosborne]

MY RESPONSE TO THOSE FREEPERS WHO OPPOSE HJR 56...

First and foremost this is NOT petty... it is critical in this day and age that we RE-AFFIRM our MORAL foundation. I AGREE with those opponents who are concerned that the U.S. Constitution should not have to be this SPECIFIC, ....HOWEVER, our JUSTICE system has failed us miserably... by equating a union of two people of the same sex to MARIAGE....

this is a HUGE step in destroying the MORAL foundation of our laws.

I believe that by NOT passing this ammendment the effect will be exactly what some opponenets fear will occur if we DO pass it......

IMHO, it will encourage leftists to try to put their own crap into our laws using the judiciary, and taking advantage of its failure to ensure decisions are grounded in MORALITY........

This Ammendment will send the message LOUD AND CLEAR to our JUDICIARY that we WANT them to make decisions that are grounded in MORALITY and if they don't know what that is then WE THE PEOPLE will have to explain it to them in the CONSTITUTION!!!

[davidosborne]

pass it on...

SUPPORT HJR 56

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[adam_az]

All those colors make your post look kind of like the gay flag.... Are you trying to tell us something? ;)

[davidosborne]

Thanks for bumping.. you probably can tell that I am tired of hearing "CONSERVATIVES" try to defeat this ammendement by suggesting that its result would harm the conservative movement.... this IMHO is ridiculous..... I believe that the effect will RE-AFFIRM conservative values, and stop all this nonsense liberal activism in the courts.... if we send the message LOUD AND CLEAR our Liberals in the Judiciary would think twice before trying to push their agenda and undermining the moral foundation of laws.

[davidosborne]

Do YOU support HJR 56?

[gsrinok]

I'm all in favor of an amendment to outlaw "gay marriage" (contradiction in terms imho), but I think that our energy should be more focused on a right-to-life amendment. If we could somehow get both, great.

[davidosborne]

H.J.RES.56 Title: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. Sponsor: Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [R CO-4] (introduced 5/21/2003) Cosponsors: 75 Latest Major Action: 6/25/2003 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COSPONSORS(75), BY DATE [order is left to right]: (Sort: alphabetical order) Rep Hall, Ralph M. - 5/21/2003 [D-TX-4] Rep McIntyre, Mike - 5/21/2003 [D-NC-7] Rep Peterson, Collin C. - 5/21/2003 [D-MN-7] Rep Davis, Jo Ann - 5/21/2003 [R- VA-1] Rep Vitter, David - 5/21/2003 [R- LA-1] Rep Pitts, Joseph R. - 6/2/2003 [R- PA-16] Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. - 6/2/2003 [R- MD-6] Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. - 6/2/2003 [R- VA-5] Rep Wilson, Joe - 6/2/2003 [R- SC-2] Rep Weldon, Dave - 6/2/2003 [R- FL-15] Rep Pence, Mike - 6/10/2003 [R- IN-6] Rep Istook, Ernest J., Jr. - 6/10/2003 [R- OK-5] Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. - 6/10/2003 [R- NC-3] Rep Ryun, Jim - 6/10/2003 [R- KS-2] Rep Johnson, Sam - 6/10/2003 [R- TX-3] Rep DeMint, Jim - 6/10/2003 [R- SC-4] Rep Akin, W. Todd - 6/10/2003 [R- MO-2] Rep Burgess, Michael C. - 6/10/2003 [R- TX-26] Rep Norwood, Charlie - 6/10/2003 [R- GA-9] Rep King, Steve - 6/24/2003 [R- IA-5] Rep Isakson, Johnny - 6/24/2003 [R- GA-6] Rep Souder, Mark E. - 6/24/2003 [R- IN-3] Rep Kennedy, Mark R. - 6/24/2003 [R- MN-6] Rep Miller, Jeff - 6/25/2003 [R- FL-1] Rep Lewis, Ron - 6/25/2003 [R- KY-2] Rep Hayes, Robin - 7/8/2003 [R- NC-8] Rep Barrett, J. Gresham - 7/8/2003 [R- SC-3] Rep Burns, Max - 7/8/2003 [R- GA-12] Rep Collins, Mac - 7/8/2003 [R- GA-8] Rep Rogers, Mike D. - 7/8/2003 [R- AL-3] Rep Wamp, Zach - 7/8/2003 [R- TN-3] Rep Stenholm, Charles W. - 7/8/2003 [D-TX-17] Rep Hoekstra, Peter - 7/10/2003 [R- MI-2] Rep Brady, Kevin - 7/10/2003 [R- TX-8] Rep Whitfield, Ed - 7/10/2003 [R- KY-1] Rep Hunter, Duncan - 7/10/2003 [R- CA-52] Rep Doolittle, John T. - 7/10/2003 [R- CA-4] Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. - 7/10/2003 [R- SC-1] Rep Cantor, Eric - 7/10/2003 [R- VA-7] Rep Gingrey, Phil - 7/15/2003 [GA-11] Rep Davis, Lincoln - 7/15/2003 [D-TN-4] Rep Pickering, Charles W. (Chip) - 7/15/2003 [R- MS-3] Rep Wicker, Roger F. - 7/15/2003 [R- MS-1] Rep Taylor, Gene - 7/17/2003 [D-MS-4] Rep Herger, Wally - 7/17/2003 [R- CA-2] Rep Sullivan, John - 7/22/2003 [R- OK-1] Rep Garrett, Scott - 7/22/2003 [R- NJ-5] Rep Tauzin, W. J. (Billy) - 7/22/2003 [R- LA-3] Rep Cubin, Barbara - 7/22/2003 [R- WY] Rep Forbes, J. Randy - 7/23/2003 [R- VA-4] Rep Smith, Christopher H. - 7/23/2003 [R- NJ-4] Rep Schrock, Edward L. - 7/23/2003 [R- VA-2] Rep Pombo, Richard W. - 7/23/2003 [R- CA-11] Rep Hayworth, J. D. - 7/23/2003 [R- AZ-5] Rep Stearns, Cliff - 7/23/2003 [R- FL-6] Rep Cunningham, Randy (Duke) - 7/23/2003 [R- CA-50] Rep Pearce, Stevan - 7/23/2003 [R- NM-2] Rep Hyde, Henry J. - 7/23/2003 [R- IL-6] Rep Barton, Joe - 7/23/2003 [R- TX-6] Rep Boehner, John A. - 7/23/2003 [R- OH-8] Rep Gutknecht, Gil - 7/23/2003 [R- MN-1] Rep Peterson, John E. - 7/23/2003 [R- PA-5] Rep Tiahrt, Todd - 7/23/2003 [R- KS-4] Rep Franks, Trent - 7/23/2003 [R- AZ-2] Rep Carter, John R. - 7/24/2003 [R- TX-31] Rep Emerson, Jo Ann - 7/24/2003 [R- MO-8] Rep Chocola, Chris - 7/24/2003 [R- IN-2] Rep Rohrabacher, Dana - 7/24/2003 [R- CA-46] Rep Crane, Philip M. - 7/24/2003 [R- IL-8] Rep Shuster, Bill - 7/24/2003 [R- PA-9] Rep Sessions, Pete - 7/24/2003 [R- TX-32] Rep Beauprez, Bob - 7/24/2003 [R- CO-7] Rep Ballenger, Cass - 7/25/2003 [R- NC-10] Rep Myrick, Sue - 7/25/2003 [R- NC-9] Rep Toomey, Patrick J. - 7/25/2003 [R- PA-15]

Congressional Directory

David C. Osborne ------------------------------------------------

[davidosborne]

I think public oppinion at this point is on our side on the Marriage issue... As to abortion we need to win the partial-birth war first... and then we can go from there

[Texagirl4W]

I don't think you have to dignify post #4 with an answer. Thanks for the psot.

[gsrinok]

Excellent point, David, and I fervently pray that we will win that battle in the near future. If the partial-birth ban isn't on President Bush's desk by the end of the year, a lot of Republican reps and senators have some explaining to do.

[davidosborne]

Thanks for chiming in.. :)

[davidosborne]

agreed

[AeWingnut]

I don't know.. if homersexuals can get married it won't be long before I can marry my dog. Then I can claim her (and our children - ie puppies) on my taxes and put her on my insurance. Heck.. More than likely she would qualify for some good ole Social Security.

[davidosborne]

thanks for your comments.. have you asked your congresscritter to SUPPORT HJR 56?

[HairOfTheDog]

I think public opinion would be on your side as to the marriage question in their community, I might even voice support for a congressional act, but 'what a marriage is' doesn't even come close to being vital enough to the governance of this country to deserve constitutional ink. Neither did drinking. Lets not mire the constitution with minutia.

[davidosborne]

I respectfully disagree... this is an issue of MORALITY..... and stopping the activists liberals from destroying our nations foundation through the Judiciary... the Constitution is the ONLY way that WE THE PEOPLE provide guidance to the JUDICIARY.... and since in this case they can't seem to get it right we have to unfortunately spell it out for them...

[davidosborne]

Getting HJR 56 through the legislature would BRING the issue to EVERY community... and through the ratification process, it is the ONLY way that we can get this matter settled once and for all.. and stop the errosion of our foundation... Your suggested "hands off" approach will only encourage more liberal activist in the Judiciary....

[HairOfTheDog]

the Constitution is the ONLY way that WE THE PEOPLE provide guidance to the JUDICIARY....

Unfortunately David, that isn't what it is... you don't trust communities and legislatures (the people) to do what you want, so you want to go over their head.