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U.S. Furniture Makers to Seek Protection From China Imports
Wall Street Journal ^ | 7/15/03 | Dan Morse

Posted on 07/15/2003 4:09:15 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A group of American makers of wood bedroom furniture is preparing to seek protection from the U.S. government to stem a surge of imports from China that the companies say has ravaged their industry.

John Bassett, president and chief executive of Vaughan-Bassett Furniture Co., Galax, Va., and a spokesman for the group of 14 furniture makers, said the American Furniture Manufacturers Committee for Legal Trade intends to file an antidumping petition this fall with the U.S. Department of Commerce and the U.S. International Trade Commission.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: china; communism; democrats; evil; furniture; manufacturing; protection; unions
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To: Protagoras
And I told you by comments regarding Free Trade when free trade does not exist that is the proof taht you are supporting China the lie is your stating that you do not support the Chinese government when you are supporting policies that directly benefit them and harm the USA. In short when you support the current trade envirornment support of the People's Republic of China and their baggage comes with the territory.
181 posted on 07/15/2003 11:13:38 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Texas_Dawg
all these displaced workers, not just in NC, but across all kinds of US industry including white collar, will be the margin of victory for Hillary in 2008. Lets see how cavalier your attitude is then.
182 posted on 07/15/2003 11:18:16 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
That wouldn't surprised me. These people's tendencies are clearly more leftist and in line with union groupthink anyway. Condi Rice will beat Hillary in 2008 though. I'm not worried about it.
183 posted on 07/15/2003 11:23:17 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Protagoras
that you support and argue in favor of slave labor

By arguing for no restrictions or tariffs you are arguing in support of slave labor in those nations that employ it and export to the USA much as Britian supported the Confederate states to gain cheap cotton.

You are blind to your neighbor losing his job, his home, his life just so long as you can get it cheap from China. Personal attack. Lie.

this is not a lie it is the logical result of your argument that you can not see the truth does not make you correct in calling the truth a lie.

You are an excellent example of the decline of character in the new America.

Personal attack. This was an ad hiominum attack but I must say considering what you ahve stated on prior posts it is relatively mild.

Happily I am an old American and I still remember what this country once was, and probably will not live.

That's the good thing about you, you will no longer be able to spew lies and hate and advocate force be used to make your situation better.

And you had the unmitigated gual to try to lecture me about Christianity?

First a slew of ad hominems, which rule you out as someone to exchange with. Now your true agenda; "Both unions and tariffs together build the America that you are now selling out.

Only those who are spouting Free Trade are selling out America. You really should learn to differentiate between ad hominum attacks and discussion. I have posted facts about a number of policies in effect and how some selective tariffs would be a useful answer to them. i have also informed you about American government policies which have been used to destroy American businesses and jobs in American and you have responded with plaitudes that have nothing to do with reality. Please educate youself about what is outr there today before you try and discuss what Americna policies should be. I believe it was you who tried to say all trade with Cuba should be free now ask any Cuban American about that one. The logic that engagement via trade opens up closed societies has yet to be proven all that has been proven so far is that trade with closed totalitarian societies tends to make those societies stronger and more capable of mounting future military adventures against neigbors. A high tax, low freedom, antifreemarket union thug. And a moral slob. Go to hell.

184 posted on 07/15/2003 11:25:11 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Texas_Dawg
That wouldn't surprised me. These people's tendencies are clearly more leftist and in line with union groupthink anyway. Condi Rice will beat Hillary in 2008 though. I'm not worried about it.

Clearl;y having Hillary as President is your goal. It is not mine or many others on this thread.

185 posted on 07/15/2003 11:27:00 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
In short when you support the current trade envirornment support of the People's Republic of China and their baggage comes with the territory.

No, that's your convoluted thought process, not the truth. The truth is you deliberately and continually lie about my position.

In short when you support the current trade envirornment support of the People's Republic of China and their baggage comes with the territory.

And therein contained another lie. Damn it gets easier for you slobs with every post.

186 posted on 07/15/2003 11:27:28 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: harpseal
Clearl;y having Hillary as President is your goal.

Now lying about other posters. Seek help.

187 posted on 07/15/2003 11:28:39 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: harpseal
Clearl;y having Hillary as President is your goal.

No, I just told you who I want.

188 posted on 07/15/2003 11:30:22 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Protagoras
You ahve criticized the possible imposition of tariffs which is one of teh few weapons we have in this trade war therefor you are supporting teh current trade envirornment and all that gies with it. QED

Or are you now agreeing with tariffs?

189 posted on 07/15/2003 11:34:58 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Then why dfo you support policies that will bring her into office? Personally I have not made a choice for 2008 it is too far away and I wish to hear where candidates actually will stand on issues although condoleza Rice may be a potentially good President we still ahve the 2004 election coming and if the economy gets worse it may not look all that good for 2004.
190 posted on 07/15/2003 11:37:35 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: harpseal
Naturally, it's far off. I'm not worried about it though. The GOP will have the White House till at least 2016, and I'll take anyone's money who wants to bet me on that. ;-)
191 posted on 07/15/2003 11:40:03 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: AngryJawa
It takes some searching, but it's out there.

It must really take some searching, because my husband and I have consciously looked for USA made products and we rarely see them. I would pay more for them, as long as it's reasonable, because we wish to support American manufacturing. Do you know of a good list of American-made products?

192 posted on 07/15/2003 11:40:53 AM PDT by twigs
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To: harpseal
You ahve criticized the possible imposition of tariffs which is one of teh few weapons we have in this trade war therefor you are supporting teh current trade envirornment and all that gies with it. QED

Better take ten deep breaths Bunky, you are hypervenilating.

Tariffs are taxes, they should not be government tools to manipulate people or turn a tax into a government command and control economy.

Now, I've had enough of your BS, go lie about someone else. I'm finished with you before you have a heart attack.

193 posted on 07/15/2003 11:42:11 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
I have not lied and do not lie what do you think I am Free Trader? The big lie is that Free Trade helps the USA and that it can be sold to teh American people. I am reminded of those who supported Hitler because he controled teh Communists and the Trade Unionists. No when I asked Texas dawg why he supported Hillary I was taking him at his word that he believed that the policies he is advocating would cause her election.

I tire of this when you are willing to take responsibilkity for your positions respond to me but iuntil then anless you are willing to discuss real issues do not bother responding.

194 posted on 07/15/2003 11:44:58 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Redleg Duke
"Made in China"..."We do not buy slave labor produced products!"

We have friends who immigrated here from China several years ago. We have been surprised about how little they know of slave-labor conditions in their own country. University-educated professionals who find their own way over here generally know and care less about their own worker class than we do here. However, they've begun to notice that lower-ticketed items are all too often made in China and it is beginning to dawn on them why. I think it is beginning to trouble them, but they would never have figured all this out had they stayed in China.

195 posted on 07/15/2003 11:45:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Texas_Dawg
A spoiled few seeking to have the government forcibly remove the money of the rest of all Americans.

"Spoiled few" That is an unfair and a cheap comment. We are a small lumber company just trying to get by, selling to our domestic furniture makers. They as we do, have to pay the going labor rates and then compete against chinese made furniture made with nearly slave labor.

I'm sorry that you feel that I am trying to take some money out of your pocket. As the story noted Chinese furniture is getting better, but to this point it is in many cases still lacking in quality at least in the case of finer furniture.

But hey that is the nature of free competition isn't it? Hope your industry never gets beseiged by cheap foreign competition.

As others have noted on this thread, what happens if all manufacturing in this country gets moved off shore? Who will be left in this country that has any income to consume anything?

196 posted on 07/15/2003 11:46:09 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Shriner's Childrens Hospitals Provide Free Medical Care to Those In Need.)
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To: harpseal
No when I asked Texas dawg why he supported Hillary I was taking him at his word that he believed that the policies he is advocating would cause her election.

Huh? I do?

197 posted on 07/15/2003 11:47:45 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I'm sorry that you feel that I am trying to take some money out of your pocket.

Do you "feel" that being forced by the federal government to pay welfare to people who don't work is a waste of your money?

198 posted on 07/15/2003 11:49:26 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Hope your industry never gets beseiged by cheap foreign competition.

It is your very own government that renders you vulnerable to foreign competition.

Wage and price controls (minimum wage), huge amounts of regulations and union thugs who keep wages artifically high are just some of the reasons people move production overseas. Blame your government, not someone else.

Competition is the life blood of free markets and abundance.

199 posted on 07/15/2003 11:53:49 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Do you "feel" that being forced by the federal government to pay welfare to people who don't work is a waste of your money?

I don't pay anyone directly for welfare, I would assume that you are referring to my paying taxes.

What industry are you in and do you face cheap foreign competition?

200 posted on 07/15/2003 11:54:26 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Shriner's Childrens Hospitals Provide Free Medical Care to Those In Need.)
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