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Wilson's war to end war: Pat Buchanan exposes dirty little secret about U.S. 'victory' in WWI
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, July 9, 2003 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 07/08/2003 11:49:18 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

When the 20th century began, Europe ruled most of the world.

The British Empire covered a fourth of the earth's surface, the Russian Empire a sixth. The French Empire spread from North Africa to Indochina, Germany's from Africa to Samoa.

The century saw the death of them all, and Europe's retreat into its own small continent. What happened? According to historian Jacques Barzun, "The blow that hurled the modern world on its course of self-destruction" was World War I.

Nine million of the best and bravest of the young of Britain, France, Russia, Germany, Austria, Italy and the United States perished. By war's end, four empires had vanished.

In the Allied victory, U.S. intervention was decisive. In 1917, German divisions had helped Austria knock Italy out at Caporetto. In early 1918, Germany had forced Lenin's Bolsheviks to surrender and give up Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine.

In March of 1918, Quartermaster Gen. Ludendorff launched a final offensive that brought the German army back to the Marne, almost to within sight of Paris. Only the arrival of 2 million American troops prevented an Allied defeat.

Schoolchildren are today indoctrinated in the myth that World War I was fought to save mankind from Prussian militarism, that its moral hero was Wilson, that he was tragically thwarted in his desire to bring America into the League of Nations by the bitter spite of evil and conservative men, led by Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge. Had Wilson succeeded, we are taught, all the horrors of World War II might have been averted.

There is another side to this story. It is called the truth. And in Thomas Fleming's "The Illusion of Victory: America in World War I," it is movingly and powerfully told. What is that truth?

World War I was an unnecessary war for America. Britain, France, Italy and Japan did not fight to "make the world safe for democracy," but to crush Germany, loot her colonies, and disarm, bankrupt and dismember her so she never rose again. It was an imperial war from start to finish.

Any who believe in Allied nobility should reread Fleming's account of the "starvation blockade." After Germany laid down her arms, British warships kept food out of her ports and prevented German fishermen from even going out into the Baltic. British-French war aims were not worth the life of a single American doughboy.

Fleming has a novelist's eye for the anecdote that brings home the larger truth. He harbors a burning contempt for propaganda lies and armchair generals who revel in reputations for bloody butchery, and a deep admiration for courageous soldiers like Douglas MacArthur and George S. Patton, and the U.S. officers who did their duty and led their Marines and soldiers out into no-man's land and near-certain death.

Any American who thinks John Ashcroft is a threat to civil liberties should read this account of what happened to the men who spoke out against Wilson's war. Hundreds went to prison for violating his Espionage and Sedition acts. Others faced vigilante justice.

Fleming writes of how Wilson's incompetent administrators sent American boys to die, untrained, poorly led and with inferior weapons. Teddy Roosevelt's son Quentin went up in a cast-off French plane to face veteran German pilots who machine-gunned him to death.

Among Fleming's more moving chapters is "The Women of No-Man's-Land" – about the "25,000 skirted Yanks" who "made it over there." Shirley Millard was a New York girl who left her fiance in training, studied a handbook on nursing while crossing the Atlantic and was soon in a hospital near Soissons, under nightly attack.

She watched another nurse to learn how to use a needle to give wounded soldiers morphine. When the next barracks took a direct hit from German planes, she went out in a "blood-red dawn" to see trees "blossomed horribly with fragments of human bodies."

Shirley ended the war in the "salle de mort," the dying room. On Nov. 10, 1918, Sgt. Charlie Whiting, whom she had nursed for days, died. The next day, when nurses rushed in to tell her they had champagne to celebrate the armistice, she told them to get out.

Why did America plunge into a war in 1917 in which 5 million had already died, in which no vital interest was at risk? Wilson wanted a seat at the peace table, where he believed his nobility and superior intellect, and American idealism, could triumph over Old World duplicity, greed and hatred, and usher in a new world order of peace and justice.

It was the utopian dream of a vain, obdurate, willful man. For it, 116,000 Americans died, and the world got Lenin, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and World War II.

In his willingness to take on the idols of yesterday in books such as "The Illusion of Victory" and "The New Dealers' War," Fleming is a rarity, a historian unintimidated by the most savagely defended myths of the 20th century.


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KEYWORDS: bookreview; britishempire; history; illusionofvictory; patbuchanan; thomasfleming; woodrowwilson; wwi
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Tuesday, July 9, 2003

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1 posted on 07/08/2003 11:49:18 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: All
Aww man! Enough of the fundraiser posts!!!
Only YOU can make fundraiser posts go away. Please contribute!

2 posted on 07/08/2003 11:50:01 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Buchanan retells history, to justify his worldview.

I would challenge him to provide guidance, looking forward, about how to deal with present threats to our national security.

I predict his first recommendation would be to abandon Israel, for he would place no more value on them as our present ally, than he would have placed on defending France and Britain, as our WWI allies.

I'm glad he is not in charge.
3 posted on 07/09/2003 12:11:10 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
I'm not a history buff, but I'm curious about your post. Did Buchanan lie? Can you refute anything he said?
4 posted on 07/09/2003 12:49:49 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
"World War I was an unnecessary war for America."

It all depends on the meaning of the word "unnecessary."

If one believes it was "the right thing to do" then it was necessary.

By that standard, his whole premise fails.

I contend it was "necessary" with a longer view, of the world military balance of power, which could have resulted by standing by and watching a German victory.

It could be reasonably be expected we would face a war with a Germany far stronger than she was, at the time we entered WWI.

That is the type of calculated risk the real people in charge must face. Buchanan just writes books about alternative takes on past events.

Take me up on a challenge as to how Buchanan would opine to deal with present dangers?

Does he or doesn't he propose to abandon Israel, to appease the muslim hordes and terrorists?

Would those forces be content with the end of Israel, or could they be feared to press on, albeit more stongly, to spread their terror far and wide?

5 posted on 07/09/2003 1:10:51 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: JohnHuang2
bump for a later read!
6 posted on 07/09/2003 1:57:02 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: truth_seeker
Exactly. WWI shows why the world is and should be grateful to America. It also shows that we should not depend on 'old europe' whose empires we destroyed. our allies (and the ones we should remind owe their independence to US) are the countries of Eastern europe such as Poland, or Asia (India, Israel) etc. who gained independence because the US had the moral foresight to destroy the slavish empires of the French, Germans, Turks, English, Russians etc. The 20th was the American century and was a better place BECAUSE of US.
7 posted on 07/09/2003 2:17:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Mixing Islam with sanity results in serious side effects. Consult your Imam)
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To: truth_seeker
Had the US stayed out of WWI, there is almost no chance that there would have been war between Germany and the US after a German victory.

Keep in mind that the Germany of WWI wasn't the beast of WWII. A German victory, or more likely, an eventual status quo peace, would have denied the NAZIs a chance to govern Germany, and would have given Germany every opportunity to deal with the Communists in Russia while they were still weak.

Over the long term, true American neutrality in WWI would have most likely created a much better world.
8 posted on 07/09/2003 2:48:34 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: JohnHuang2
Wilson was also a racist.
9 posted on 07/09/2003 3:21:38 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JohnHuang2
...and a philanderer.
10 posted on 07/09/2003 3:22:04 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JohnHuang2
FYI, I would advise everyone to read John Keegan's books World War 1, and World War 2. World War 2 can not be understood outside the context of World War 1, and very few people understand World War 1. The responsibiliy for World War 1 lies firstly on the Hapsburgs, but after that Germany, Russia, and France all share pretty much equal responsibility.
11 posted on 07/09/2003 4:03:31 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: JohnHuang2
In Buchanan's worldview Germany was blameless. That is, to put it mildly, a fantasy. Let's admit to the fact that both sides acted with brutality in a war that had been entered into under the illusion that victory would be quick but which turned into a protracted death struggle.

The fact is that Europe was so demoralized by WW I that the surrender to total forms of rule by despairing populations was almost inevitable in it's aftermath.

Although I have no love lost for Wilson, the fact is that America entered the war with genuinely idealistic motives: Naive maybe but not cynically manipulative.
12 posted on 07/09/2003 4:27:23 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: JohnHuang2
Evidently Pat forgets the Luisitania (sp). That was much like 9/11 back then. But of course, he takes Germany's side - just like the good Brownshirt he is.

Can anyone - anyone - tell me why it is that we should give a $hit what this windbag Nazi says about anything? How exactly is it that he is qualified to comment on any national subject with more authority than any of us in here? Ignore this POS so he goes away.
13 posted on 07/09/2003 5:00:56 AM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The only thing that Pat Buchanan exposes to the world these days is his consistent wrong headedness and general fixation with rewritting history to fit his views.
14 posted on 07/09/2003 5:18:58 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: swilhelm73
Had the US stayed out of WWI, there is almost no chance that there would have been war between Germany and the US after a German victory.

Maybe, maybe not. But imagine how the last 3/4 of the 20th Century might have unfolded with Germany dominating Europe. Interesting to speculate.

15 posted on 07/09/2003 5:31:51 AM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Rodney King
The responsibiliy for World War 1 lies firstly on the Hapsburgs, but after that Germany, Russia, and France all share pretty much equal responsibility.

How does Keegan come up with Hapsburgs first and then everyone else collectively?

Austria-Hungary's Crown Prince had just been assasinated by a Serbian government sponsored assasin. The Hapsburgs were cleaning out a rogue state.

Germany, on the other hand, is pretty much responsible for the state of affairs where one of the great powers of Europe was not allowed to clean out a rogue state in peace. Its monarch decided to push away Russia in the hopes of courting England, then scare England into being an ally by building a fleet to challenge England's. This all resulted in a suspicious, unstable atmosphere in which anything could set off an explosion.

16 posted on 07/09/2003 5:45:28 AM PDT by ExpandNATO
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To: Cronos
Your uprooting of empires resulted in the following catastrophes:

In Turkey, the Ottoman's were replaced by nationalists who promptly massacred a million or so Armenians.

Removed the German monarchy, hereby leaving room for Hitler.

Removed the Russian monarchy, hereby opening the way for the Communists. This also ended up in a lot of newly independent states losing their freedom to the Communists.

Gave Japan a taste for empire, resulting in an untold number of conflicts in Asia.

The destruction of Austria-Hungary left the Balkans without a ruler resulting in the first ethnics cleansings, which blew up again in Yugoslavia during the 1990s and has now ultimately resulted in radical Islam having a foothold in Europe.

There is no way we can be proud of Wilson's performance (or that of any other Western power) during or after World War I.

17 posted on 07/09/2003 5:55:21 AM PDT by ExpandNATO
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To: swilhelm73
Keep in mind that the Germany of WWI wasn't the beast of WWII.

That's kind of like saying that Ted Bundy wasn't as vile as Timothy McVeigh because he had a lower body count.

German troops sent to China during the Boxer Rebellion shocked everyone, including the Japanese, with their atrocities against Chinese civilians.

When Germany saddles up to spread Kultur, they've always used fearful models for doing so.

18 posted on 07/09/2003 5:59:25 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: dr_who_2
and a closet nose-picker...
19 posted on 07/09/2003 6:01:20 AM PDT by banjo joe
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To: ExpandNATO
This is turning into a good history thread, actually. I've been wanting to study history in more detail for some time, but frankly don't trust historians. Besides Keegan, anyone have recommendations?
20 posted on 07/09/2003 6:14:35 AM PDT by banjo joe
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