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MSNBC fires Savage after anti-gay remarks
Associated Press ^ | Jul. 7, 2003 01:00 PM

Posted on 07/07/2003 1:11:21 PM PDT by sakic

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEW YORK - MSNBC on Monday fired Michael Savage for anti-gay comments.

The popular radio talk show host who did a weekend TV show for the cable channel referred to an unidentified caller to his show Saturday as a "sodomite" and said he should "get AIDS and die."


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To: cyncooper
Didn't realize there was a hostile tone in my post. Please show me.

The FR forum does have committee members as well as forum posters.

So please, cut and paste the issue with my post. If I had an issue, show me.
761 posted on 07/07/2003 8:53:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions.)
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To: Calpernia
I seemed surprised at the amount of new posters.

And now that I see your comment here to visualops--that was my point about explaining the mouse tip (in case you weren't aware of it). The fact is there weren't "new posters" on this thread, but posters that have been registered at FR for years. That is what I was getting at.

762 posted on 07/07/2003 8:53:34 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: sakic
The joke is on conservatives who think this guy is doing them favors. For all the damage he does, he could be a liberal just trying to make himself as grotesque as possible in conservative clothing.
763 posted on 07/07/2003 8:55:51 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: novacation
Why should we believe that a homsexual is a normal person?

Amen..Preach it from the rooftops...I'm tired of folks giving these perverts a pass on life..Their deranged.

764 posted on 07/07/2003 8:55:51 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Calpernia
Didn't realize there was a hostile tone in my post. Please show me.

When you said "Get that?". That came off as hostile.

There is also a hostile tone to this reply.

The "issue" is you alluded to "new posters" supposedly appearing on this thread when there have been no "new posters" but long-time freepers posting their remarks. That's all I was saying.

And I have no idea what you mean about "committee members" and "forum posters". The topic was someone opined that "new posters" had appeared in order to trash Michael Savage. That is not the case.

765 posted on 07/07/2003 8:58:02 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: sit-rep
>One last time... Why do you not stand behind Savage on >this one issue if you are not for homosexuality or >following the Republicans blindly?

Just because one is for homosexuality doesn't mean one is for having people contract AIDS and DIE. WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? HE would LOVE these people and try to HELP them, and he wouldn't HOPE that they contracted the AIDS virus. But, Savage wouldn't know the love of JESUS since he isn't even a CHRISTIAN. ANY CHRISTIAN who supports and agrees with SAVAGE's (Wiener's) IDIOTIC STATEMENT needs to ask himself whether he is TRULY a CHRISTIAN who loves everyone, even those who do evil.

I'm glad the MORON was fired. It makes me SICK that he labels himself as a CONSERVATIVE. He doesn't understand anything and is simply full of HATE. To hell with Savage.
766 posted on 07/07/2003 8:59:49 PM PDT by Norse
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To: sakic
Michael made 3 distinct death threat insults at the caller. Some articles only include the AIDS reference. This article had the sausage insult as well. This transcript as a third (a parasitic lifeform found in some undercooked meats).

CALLER: "Hey Michael Savage, a pleasure to speak with you today. I was flying out of LaGuardia, and there was two undercover security guards. Somebody was smoking in the bathroom"

SAVAGE: "Someone was smoking in the bathroom."

CALLER: "Unbelievable."

SAVAGE: "What happened?"

CALLER: "Half-hour into the flight, I need to suggest that Don and Mike take your [silence] cause your teeth are [unintelligible]

SAVAGE: "Alright, so you're one of those sodomists? Are you a sodomite? "

CALLER: "Yes, I am."

SAVAGE: "Oh, you're one of the sodomites! You should only get AIDS and die, you pig! How's that? [off-screen crew can be heard shouting "Whoa!"] Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig? You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage and choke on it. Get trichinosis. OK, do we have another nice caller here who's busy because he didn't have a nice night in the bathhouse and is angry at me today? Huh? Get me another one, put another sodomite on! No more calls? I don't care. Let's go to the next scene. I don't care about these bums, they mean nothing to me. They're all sausages."
767 posted on 07/07/2003 9:00:38 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
What a Weiner.
768 posted on 07/07/2003 9:04:10 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Norse
Is trichinosis a predominantly homosexual illness?

He was telling the caller to drop dead. Is a AIDS politically correct disease? The other 2 methods of death Michael mentioned (choking on food or parasites) don't seem to be drawing nearly as much press.

Some accounts of the incident drop them out entirely.

The comment was not serious; it was an outrageous response to a personal insult by a prank caller. It was in bad taste. He apologized. He lost his job.

I've heard worse comments that came with no rebuke against those on the left.
769 posted on 07/07/2003 9:05:45 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Cultural Jihad
Care to explain that comment?
770 posted on 07/07/2003 9:06:56 PM PDT by weegee
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To: concerned about politics
~~~Why deny him his right?~~~

He still has his right to speak. His employer simply told him that his right was NOT going to be expressed on their network, on their dime.

Employers' DO have their rights as well, imo.
771 posted on 07/07/2003 9:08:08 PM PDT by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor.)
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To: Norse
Would Jesus also call him a Moron?

ask yourself whether you are TRULY a CHRISTIAN who loves everyone.

That was too easy.

772 posted on 07/07/2003 9:12:10 PM PDT by Afronaut
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To: concerned about politics
Ignore my post to you. Should never respond half way thru a thread without checking the 'replies' feature. Didn't mean to make it look like I was piling on to what others had already stated.
773 posted on 07/07/2003 9:16:20 PM PDT by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor.)
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To: Norse
I'm glad the MORON was fired. It makes me SICK that he labels himself as a CONSERVATIVE. He doesn't understand anything and is simply full of HATE. To hell with Savage

Wow, how mighty Christian of you to say. Maybe what you observe as hate you can't recognize as the rest of us being fed up with people like you as being hypocrites who don't have the guts to stand up for what's right and tell it like it is. Crawl back in your shell and pretend the world is a peaceful place and the left isn't eroding society. It's where you and the rest of the country club republicans belong. With your head in the sand.

774 posted on 07/07/2003 9:16:58 PM PDT by RightWingRadio
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To: Afronaut
I don't know that Jesus would say this either: "To hell with Savage."

An eternity in Hell is a lot worse punishment than a passing time with a lethal disease such as AIDS.

775 posted on 07/07/2003 9:19:43 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
I don't want to see the Republican party getting the Illegal Alien vote. As Illegal Aliens, they are not citizens and it is a crime for them to vote. What do you recommend?

I recommend that we start being a little more compassionate towards homosexuals and illegal aliens. After all they are doing jobs many of us don't want to do. Besides, we can use the votes, right?

776 posted on 07/07/2003 9:22:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: kabar
You and I seem to be the only two voices here, in support of Savage.

Count me in as well. 90% of this thread is merely neocon dribble.

777 posted on 07/07/2003 9:23:26 PM PDT by RightWingRadio
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To: menamena99
what happened to the first amendment?

I honestly can't believe I'm hearing such an intellectually shallow comment like this on FR, of all places. You do realize, of course, that the 1st Amendment refers to government censorship of speech, and not on what a private company like MSNBC chooses to set limits in its workplace?
778 posted on 07/07/2003 9:25:29 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: sakic
Dengar01 ----> The Nazis did the same thing

What are you talking about?

The Nazis went after whoever disagreed with them (remember the poem "When the came for the Jews...". Now this is an attack and setup by the radical left. When a radical gay (whether it was a setup or not) personally attacks someone I believe the person (Michael Savage) can say anything back to them. In my opinion this was a clear setup by GLAAD who wanted Savage off MSNBC before he got on. They are a radical group who wants to mainstream deviant behavior going so far as to push for Gay Clubs (these are going on currently even in my former High School today.

GLAAD is a dangerous group and if they are allowed to continue what they are doing the moral ground of this country is doomed. I have watched every episode of the Savage Nation on MSNBC and have been a long time listener to the Savage Nation on radio and can clearly say Savage is not anti-gay. He is however, anti-radical gay, which means those who want to molest your boys, corrupt your children and flaunt their deviancy to the entire world.

This goes hand-in-hand with secularism, and Michael Savage isn't Christian he is Jewish. Savage stands for Judeo-Christian morals which I think is a good thing for America. The argument began with Savage bashing to USSCOTUS for the sodomy ruling which saw the release of child molestors. I happen to agree with Savage that men who pray on young boys should be locked up for life. It isn't a case of privacy it is a case of predators who prey on the most innocent in society.

I don't find this view to be offensive and I found Savage's comments on Saturday's show to be classic. However, the radical gay groups may have won this battle but the war for America and morality is far from over. And in the long run this may be better for Savage to get off a network that in my opinion will be off the air in a few years.

779 posted on 07/07/2003 9:26:25 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: 666beast
Just sick of all the cowardly conservatives and the get-along, go-along Mr. Milquetoasts that permeate the Republican party and pander to all.

Bingo. Which is exactly what 90% of this thread is. Good post.

780 posted on 07/07/2003 9:27:42 PM PDT by RightWingRadio
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