MSNBC fires Savage after anti-gay remarks

Associated Press ^ | Jul. 7, 2003 01:00 PM

[sakic]

NEW YORK - MSNBC on Monday fired Michael Savage for anti-gay comments.

The popular radio talk show host who did a weekend TV show for the cable channel referred to an unidentified caller to his show Saturday as a "sodomite" and said he should "get AIDS and die."

[cyncooper]

If Savage would have played nicey-nice with the homos everything would be just peachy for MSNBC, eh?

It's called common courtesy and decency. One can communicate without resorting to nastiness. So yes, I think if he'd phrased his "thought" differently and left out the death wish he'd be still employed by MSNBC.

And don't bother to tell me I'm wrong. Neither of us know for sure, but commonsense says I am correct.

[oldtimer]

Mike still has his radio network, and too bad that the queers don't like him.

The book of Leviticus pretty much puts them in the same catagory as having sex with animals.

[adam_az]

Now that Savage is gone, does this mean MSNBC will bring back Phil Donahue.

I hope not - I didn't renew my registration for the domain
donahuesucks.com!


It's about to expire - if anyone wants it for a good purpose, freepmail me and I'll transfer it to you so you can renew it!

[savedbygrace]

They were waiting for an excuse to pull the handle. I could never tune in to Savage for more than a few minutes, but it seems MSNBC has far more patience with their liberals than with others.

What am I saying? Shame on me!

[cyncooper]

What freaking difference does it make what he wishes? He was just telling the sodomite what was going to happen to him if he kept it up.

Wrong.

[John H K]

Or the comment about suicidal terrorists not being cowardly vs US military actions?

If you can read, I suggest picking up something called a "dictionary" and look up "coward" and "cowardly."

Pretty much by definition, a suicide attacker is NOT A COWARD. They're nasty, callous, and evil, but not cowards.

The idea that a suicide bomber is a coward is laughably stupid.

What WOULD be cowardly is, say, building a bomb, then leaving it outside an elementary school and driving safely away...people have mutated the term cowardly away from what it actually means.

And Mahr WAS TRASHING CLINTON when he commented on how the US had responded to terrorism previously; we randomly lobbed cruise missles because we were terrified of taking casualties. Which was true.

I thought it was OK on FR to trash Clinton?

[weegee]

Which is the repercussion of the gay lifestyle?

Contracting a lethal dose of AIDS or choking on a sausage?

Michael mentioned both in his brief response.

Certainly someone in standards and practices had to be watching. Why let him finish his show to the end? Why not put the plug on him and run commercials, fillers, or a rerun?

If his comment was so indefensible, there should have been no excuse for leaving him on the air to complete the show.

[visualops]

Yes it can be both.
Liberalism/socialism is finally being seen for what it is, and people are waking up. However, for the last 50+ years, it's infiltrated all areas of our lives. It's been educating our children, it's been censoring our textbooks, it's been rewriting history, it's been making movies, it's been passing laws, and it's been the evening news and the talk shows. They have set a great many wheels in motion that will not be easy to stop (and reverse).

[Centurion2000]

We have Faggot pandering!

Crudely put but very accurate of the Republican Party these days.

[weegee]

Suicide is the coward's way out. Never have to face the consequences of your actions.

[GSWarrior]

Actually, I was referring to Savage not being on KSFO anymore.

[Cultural Jihad]

Yes, you are correct. Dr. Savage will have to accept the consequences of his actions, while the panty-waisted hand-wringers around here who think actions should not have consequences will just have to learn to lump it, or hire him themselves.

[Jorge]

...referred to an unidentified caller to his show Saturday as a "sodomite" and said he should "get AIDS and die."

This is way over the top.
Being fired from MSNBC is just the beginning of the consequences he'll have to endure.
Savage will probably never live down these comments.

I expect he has pretty much destroyed his career...and deservedly so.

[visualops]

I was referring to the die from AIDS comment, as the poster I responded to made the comparison to a Jew and an oven.

Did you read the post I responded to, as well as understand my response?

[Im Your Huckleberry]

Wrong. Very, very wrong. The left has achieved what they have achieved by resorting to nastiness...each and every time. By agitating, upsetting, shrieking, screaming, pounding on the floor...that's how they've gotten where they've gotten.

It's time for conservatives to give it right back to them. To reach down and find out that they have a pair (if any still do, I'm beginning to wonder).

All this "we need to be nice", "he's not nice", "he's l-ooo-uuu-ddd" and "he's so m-eeeeee-aaaa-n" crap...I never imagined there were so many eunuchs in the conservative movement. I've yet to see this kind of whining on any other thread, so if this is where we're at, as a society, and with so-called members of this side of the ideological spectrum, then I am appalled.

This thread is frightening if it's representative of how many whiney, nervous, hand-wringers are out there on "our" side. It's embarrassing, and more than a little pathetic.

This is exactly where the left wants us to be, and it looks like many (seemingly under the distortion of "do unto other" Christian principals or something) have gone there willingly.

If that's the case, then the left has already won.

[SoulStorms]

Sounds like Savage has a few personal issues to deal with.

This is why I have not been a listener of his for quite some time. It's not that he doesn't occasionally have something important to say, it's just that I always feel like I'm slowing down in traffic to look at the bloody scene of a fatal accident.

To his credit, he does warn of "psychological nudity". Perhaps he'd do best to bare it all from the safety of a therapist's couch.

[DoughtyOne]

"Half an hour into the flight, I need to suggest that Don and Mike take your ..." the caller said, before he was cut off and his words became unintelligible.

"So you're one of those sodomists. Are you a sodomite?" Savage asked...
 

It seems this caller said something highly off color that set Savage off.  Savage should have been above this type of response.

Let the caller make the stupid comments and tarnish their own chacter, don't react by displaying bad character yourself.

I've heard Savage make some unfortunate comments.  I've had reservations regarding the guy for years.  It's too bad he couldn't moderate himself better.
 

[GSWarrior]

Not a good comparison.

I kind of agree with you. But someone could easily utter that Jewish slur in the heat of the moment too, without actually wishing it to be so.

[Jorge]

Sorry, doll, I don't "have to turn him off", I don't find anything he says, or his delivery, "odious".

This is very sad.

[John H K]

Here's the Webster's New World Dictionary Definitions of "coward" and "cowardly."

coward: A person who lacks courage, esp. one who is shamefully unable to control fear and so shrinks from danger or trouble.

cowardly: suggests a reprehensible lack of courage in the face of danger or pain.


Anyway you slice it, the 9/11 hijackers weren't cowards. Deal with it.

And the Clinton response to terror was the launching of cruise missles, and the rejection of plans for Special Forces to go after terrorists camps out of the fear of casualties. To the perspective of other countries, how is that not cowardly?

Mahr was simply taking note of the way the word cowardly had mutated in American discourse away from its accepted definition, and effectively slamming Clinton's anti-terror policy, though he didn't mention Clinton by name.