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Should teachers be allowed to carry guns at school? (Poll to freep
Fox News ^ | 7/2/2003 | fox news

Posted on 07/02/2003 11:03:06 AM PDT by jdege

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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To: ExSoldier
No school shooting in this country has EVER been stopped by an ARMED TEACHER.

How could we? We don't allow teachers to be armed in our schools. However, a better question remains:

How many school shootings could have been prevented or minimized by allowing teachers to be armed?

And I certainly agree that it's critical the thugs not know who's carrying.

41 posted on 07/02/2003 12:49:30 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob
" How many school shootings could have been prevented or minimized by allowing teachers to be armed?"

Very few, I'm afraid. Teachers are (by and large) raving, antigun liberals. They'd sooner handle a live rattlesnake than a loaded gun. The benefit that would accrue is to folks in the extreme minority of Education (like me) who do in fact have the wherewithal, training and experience to make a difference in case the unthinkable becomes awful reality. But, that's all.

42 posted on 07/02/2003 1:10:45 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: SLB
How soon we forget about people like the principle who held a shooter at bay with a handgun until police arrived.

I agree. I watched Linda Vester today and never saw so many whiney anti gun freaks.. How many lives would have been saved at Columbine if a teacher had been armed?

43 posted on 07/02/2003 1:12:39 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: jdege
bang and a bump
44 posted on 07/02/2003 1:20:21 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: jdege
a. Yes, for their protection.  (31%)
b. No, it's unsafe.  (66%)
c. Not sure  (3%)
45 posted on 07/02/2003 1:47:53 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: ExSoldier
Very few, I'm afraid. Teachers are (by and large) raving, antigun liberals. They'd sooner handle a live rattlesnake than a loaded gun. The benefit that would accrue is to folks in the extreme minority of Education (like me) who do in fact have the wherewithal, training and experience to make a difference in case the unthinkable becomes awful reality. But, that's all.

Unfortunately, you're probably right about the extent that it would help.

But to turn the antis' statement on its ear: If it saves one child...

46 posted on 07/02/2003 1:54:05 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Joe Brower
It is legal in my state for teachers to carry.

I imagine there are one or two ccw's at each school.
47 posted on 07/02/2003 2:00:20 PM PDT by glock rocks (where would you be without FR? become a monthly donor.)
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To: Joe Brower
forgot to add... it's legal for me to carry in a school here.

makes me right comfy at the christmas play, etc.
48 posted on 07/02/2003 2:01:23 PM PDT by glock rocks (where would you be without FR? become a monthly donor.)
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To: jdege
I'm a teacher, and I am packing pretty much everywhere except at work, because it is prohibited there. Strange how we guard our money with guns, but not our children.
49 posted on 07/02/2003 2:24:01 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: jdege
Fighting Fire With Fire

Should teachers be allowed to carry guns at school?

a. Yes, for their protection. (31%)

b. No, it's unsafe. (66%)

c. Not sure (3%)


50 posted on 07/02/2003 2:46:21 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Joe Brower
BTTT...
51 posted on 07/02/2003 3:20:06 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: jdege
Been there.
FReeped that.
52 posted on 07/02/2003 4:25:27 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: jdege
8:30 at night and still the exact same poll results.
53 posted on 07/02/2003 8:34:09 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (I need all my guns and ammo to stop you from taking any of them.><>)
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To: Joe Brower
Email to Brit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Tony Snow, Roger Ailes, Fox News Channel:

Gentlemen of Fox News

We watch only Fox News Channel, belong to the NRA and want to know why you've rigged the arming teachers poll on your website.

Arming teachers--arming pilots, arming citizens, etc.--will effect the sentiment of George Washington that the presence of firearms everywhere will stifle the urge towards lawlessness.

Look at the scientific research of Dr. John Lott (More Guns, Less Crime, etc.) and see the reality vs. your rigged myth.

Stop your liberalistic propaganda or we simply cease to watch your programming.

You are apparently no different than CNN and CBS.

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54 posted on 07/02/2003 8:41:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Joe Brower
I had a teacher who’d throw chalkboard erasers at kids. I can just imagine that guy packing heat. It would be a .44 Mag. for sure.

Seriously though, I’d say yes under certain circumstances. I wouldn’t want my kids going to a school where teachers were compelled to pack heat to begin with. But, such schools are out there and if you want teacher to teach there, you should allow them to defend themselves.
55 posted on 07/02/2003 9:18:14 PM PDT by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: ExSoldier
Tell me yer not in Melborne FL please..........Stay Safe and regards from a retired EOD troop.
56 posted on 07/02/2003 10:23:55 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: jdege
Should teachers be allowed to carry guns at school?

Many moons ago perhaps, but not today. The school grounds have become a sanctuary for femininity and PC-ness. Real men need not apply. In fact, real men who might think their ability to defend themselves and others from a crazed madman as something that comes quite naturally, are creepy.

What kind of sheep shoots back?

57 posted on 07/02/2003 10:31:08 PM PDT by budwiesest (Ever hit a gas line with a post-hole digger?)
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To: Squantos
I haven't been to Melborne FL since I was a kid! I live in Miami...and some of my favorite folks are EOD!
58 posted on 07/02/2003 10:45:54 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: jdege
Yes. While sub-teaching about '88 in one Dallas high school and what they now call a middle school, I recieved a death threat in each one. Both in class. Both negroes. Both drug muscular. One a convicted violent criminal, the other appearing to be high on drugs, rap sheet unknown.

(I have met a 19 y.o. 10th grader, gentle, very stupid, and much larger than I.

IMHO, had I not been a larger 6'1" / 59" shouldered 245#, seething at such trash, and firm of grip forcing eye to eye each time - quite contrary to "school policy", they could/would have attacked me, endangering other kids as they initiated what would become shocking, overwhelming violence controlling them.

One should not wait to ascertain whether a predatory bad actor perp is armed and demonstrating "intent" to use it given the FBI 7 yard rule.

When "KIDS" actually threaten other children or staff with injury or death, shoot 'em.

Felony "injury to a child" laws must be clearly excepted to allow for righteous shoots.
59 posted on 07/02/2003 11:03:07 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: budwiesest
"In fact, real men who might think their ability to defend themselves and others from a crazed madman as something that comes quite naturally, are creepy."

LOL! This is exactly the feedback I have gotten at nearly every school in which I've taught for the last 15 years. They usually get over it once they get to know me. Usually, but not always. There are a few extreme liberals who still really REALLY hate my guts, but lack the guts themselves, to say so to my face. As for the rest, well: A couple of years ago, I was my school social studies Teacher of the Year.

Still, when I find myself staying late to grade papers, I find myself inadvertently alerting those still in the building when I'm planning on leaving. Usually somebody just "happens to drop by my class and ASK." Then when I hit the door, there's a whole gaggle of female teachers (and a few guys) waiting. I think they think my car has a whole arsenal hidden in case of trouble (I don't and never have had to keep a gun in my car, simply because I've never had any real trouble even in the inner city) and I gather they have reached this conclusion from reading my numerous pro gun letters to the editor in the Miami Herald.

60 posted on 07/02/2003 11:09:14 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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