Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty
It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.
When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?
If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?
I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)
Thanks for pointing out the error. With all due respect, such a statement is not only anarcho-lunacy; it is purely ludicrous as well. Supposedly the faux-conservative ideologues will favor the repeal of child labor laws, too.
You prove my point, thank you!
Did I accuse you, who wasn't even mentioned, or Cultural Jihad or anyone else of being a liberal?
Did I not say, in 285 that "I can't say they are disruptors,...," but that some were using the tactic of liberals?
Were you including yourself when you said, "I've noticed that using the "liberal smear" is a tactic of people who have nothing else to argue with.?"
Can you answer the question..."Would you please explain to me - better, all of us, just where it was mandated that the state, or federal government should be in charge of educating our children?"
I can't say they are disruptors, at this point, but I notice that the tactic of calling others names as opposed to decent disagreement discussion is a tactic of liberals.
What is a person to assume.
Were you speaking of the terrible sweat-shops at the turn of the 20th century, or the more recent child labour laws?
Good point. This may come as a surprise (or maybe not), but it was in seminary that I was first exposed to institutionalized liberalism and its doctrine of perversity diversity. In a large group meeting once when a couple of us challenged them on the lack of spirituality we were told, "if you want spirituality, go someplace else."
Response; They are the only organized group with some discipline left. The problem being we would hope for George Washington but would get Julius Caesar.
What is a person to assume.
An intelligent person, or one with a modicum of common sense, would assume the writer either was not familiar with the person you mentioned and was giving him/her the benefit of doubt.
Now will you answer the question this time posed to you in #302, please?
"To me, consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects." Margaret Thatcher
Can I copy your original and send it to a few people to get them fired up?
Francis Yockey said it was comming. They killed him in the early 60's.
Certainly.
There's no Constititional mandate for Federal Education, and there's absolutely NO reason that we can't abolish all public education, either. ++
I hate to say it as a homeschooler, but there appears there is more of a mandate and precedence for publicly funded education--back as far as the early 1800's then there is for two men to have anal sex. And this is just a quick search I found, but there is a lot more detailed info out there that I've researched before. Public education, from all I have gathered, was seen as a ministry to those at it's roots(not the Horace Mann's and Dewey, but the original supporters) and was intended to strengthen the moral fiber of the US and unfortunately it was twisted to it's current condition because of a whole lot of anti-Catholic bigotry(our forefathers really reeped their sins to us protestants for their bigotry).
Education History A Timeline of Public Education in America Public education in the United States has an interesting history beginning with the nation's first public school in Boston. Public education has long been intertwined with the social and economic history of the country. Set forth below is a timeline of significant events in the history of public education in the United States. 1635 The Boston Latin School, the first publicly funded secondary school in America, and the oldest educational institution in the country, opens. Some notable figures in history who attended this school include: Cotton Mather, Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock and Samuel Adams. 1779 Thomas Jefferson argued for universal taxpayer funded public education at the basic level. While he was unsuccessful at this time, his influence was apparent in later years.
1837 Horace Mann becomes the first secretary of education in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. He travels the state on horseback advocating for a system of "common schools." Under his leadership, the legislature provided funds to localities to open the schools. These common schools provided a standardized curriculum at the elementary level and were the precursors to today's public school system.
1849 Henry Barnard creates a system of common schools in Connecticut.
1852 The Massachusetts legislature enacts the first compulsory education law requiring every child to get an education.
1853 New York follows the lead of Massachusetts and passes its own compulsory education law.
5 By the end of the Civil War, most state constitutions guaranteed public support for public education.
1874 Michigan Supreme Court rules that communities could use local property taxes to fund secondary schools.
It seems as though what is really recent is the acceptance of sodomy in our society and laws. In fact the definition of sodomy was even broader than it is now back in the 1600's.
The proscription of sodomy in the English tradition began in 1533 when King Henry VIII adopted contemporary church doctrine into a system of laws at the time of the English withdrawal from the Catholic Church. Sodomy became both a sin and a crime, since ecclesiastical law recognizes no distinction between the concepts of "sin" and "crime." Sodomy included any form of non-procreative acts including masturbation, oral and anal sex.
The original thirteen American colonies derived their laws from the English common law and continued the legal tradition in which sodomy carried the penalty of death.
The 1683 Pennsylvania law called sodomy an "unnatural sin" and the East New Jersey law listed it among the "Offenses against God."
Every state adopted some form of a sodomy law as it joined the United States, either in acceptance of an unwritten common law or in formal codification. A slow modernization of laws away from a religious doctrine into a secular system reduced penalties over time in a piece meal fashion. All states had laws against sodomy by 1960.
The 1955 edition of the American Law Institute’s model penal code omitted sodomy laws for the first time. In 1961, the Illinois legislature revised their criminal code without prohibiting sodomy. The law went into effect in 1962 without fanfare ________________
I of course hold my own opinions, but you sir are talking out of your behind if you say that there is no mandate or precedence for public education, yet there is one for anal sex. History will prove that you are very mixed up on the subjects.
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