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What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?
June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)



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To: DAnconia55; pram; wcbtinman
I am not educated in the ways of war or war tactics/strategy, so thank you for enlightening me... I have often wondered how we could have a successful revolt, since the gov't has a seemingly endless supply of resources...

I guess it comes down to who wants it worse... if the gov't wants to maintain power badly enough, could we put it past them to NOT use WMD? They could twist it around through the press, making them appear to be faultless...

...but I do see from your posts that it CAN be done, and it gives me a small glimmer of hope... one thing's for sure, government has become a monster, and I fear it is very close to the point of no return... we try to change things through traditional channels, and it's not working...something's got to give!

241 posted on 07/01/2003 9:16:13 AM PDT by Ferret Fawcet (Trust God's authority, not man's majority.)
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To: DAnconia55
Do you envision this clause to make all state laws at variance with utopians' vision null and void so that the federal government can provide uniform laws without those pesky states' governments?

In 1789, the several states had sodomy laws on the books, remaining in force after ratification. Law is an expression of social norms, proscribing some behaviors. The 10th's reservation of states' rights provide states with lawful authority. For good or bad. And that was before the AIDs danger of homos endangering others through their behavior. Physiology made more difference than Texas law. (I don't believe that Texas should have made such behavior illegal for anyone wishing to engage in it. Physical damage and death is the critical risk of such anal behavior.)

Some human behavior is undesirable if not damaging to the wellbeing of the citizens of this nation. Make a list.

I may rather fancy polygamy now that consenting privacy is so cool and there are so many "abandoned", young women needing a safe, loving, PRIVATE family home.

What is "...equal protection..."?

This SCOTUS sodomy ruling interpreted for what it does for prostate pals, extended, voids state laws differentiating human behavior. Why is agism legal? State laws controlling behavior of different people have no validity before this SCOTUS, except when the SCOTUS says so.

Why are minors and elders treated differently before the law? Why are sex workers so lawfully under threat? But a few of the round edges to clear lines...

What IS the difference between people having intimate contact and bearing arms? Both are privacy based God-given rights. I see none after this ruling. Homos packing can pack heat. However, "compelling State interests" are capricious.

We face outlaw blackrobes, congressmen, and presidents. They think that are changing for central government's convenience this "living" Constitution by rule. Our Constitution is not changed, but their lawful "authority" remains only because of overwhelming police powers of government. "Compelling State interest" is the chant of unconstitutional tyranny.

THE 2nd Amendment SCOTUS interpretation will unraval our government's lawful authority. Either SCOTUS rules that our 2nd means what it says within the context of our 9th, 10th, and 14th or it commits federal suicide by destroying its own position before our Law of the Land.
242 posted on 07/01/2003 9:16:38 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Ahban
You are of course right. The core of this case is not privacy, nor equal protection, nor due process. It is a stamp of approval that legitimizes homosexuality, plain and simple, an attempt to reverse natural law.

MM
243 posted on 07/01/2003 9:31:43 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: sweetliberty
Since I was pinged to this thread, I respond.

The quote at the top from Abraham Lincoln's First Inaugural Address is square on point, and was not familiar to me. It echoes, however, Jefferson's very familiar words in the Declaration of Independence. The ultimate solution for a fatally defective government is the "right of revolution."

Most of us, me included, see the situation in the United States as headed in that direction, but not at the end of that road as yet. So the solution in that situation is to work within the constitutional structure to strengthen and protect the Constitution itself.

We need to do two things: 1) Keep Bush in the White House, because no possible alternative President will do any better in nominating judges who will obey the Constitution, and 2) Defeat as many as possible of the Democrats in the Senate who do not want judges who will obey the Constitution from being confirmed to the bench.

Those two steps should buy us another generation, since Supreme Court Justices serve for life, and are usually appointed in their mid- to late-40s (and tend to live long and healthy lives as a rule).

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, now up FR, "Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies."

244 posted on 07/01/2003 9:40:17 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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To: Ferret Fawcet

Even if people DID form militias (or what have you) and start a revolt, could we ever hope to succeed? The gov't has all the high-tech weapons and gizmos- the citizens would be out-gunned.

I'm ready for Jesus to come back, myself- He's the only answer to this (and every other) mess we're in. Keep looking up!

 

 

I am ready for Jesus to come also, but if we do end up in a revolt, then hold faith in the fact that high-tech weapons can't fight the ground war that will need to be fought and that we the people are much greater than the army of the FEDS. Just look at Iraq, you have a small number of people causing a lot of trouble, are numbers would be much larger and most young people would not be on the side of the goverment. If a million or two people in Iraq were to turn against us right now we would loose a lot of people and about be forced to withdraw. So pray for Jesus and do not fear:

Operation American Freedom!!!


245 posted on 07/01/2003 10:08:15 AM PDT by Past Democrat
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This is also an interesting article on the Supreme Court...

Demystifying the Court - What Justice Scalia is up to

246 posted on 07/01/2003 10:36:37 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Cultural Jihad
The solution was very simple. - Close state schools and tell the feds to go to hell.

Ah, more anarcho-lunacy from the perpetually-unhappy - -

I have read a lot of your comments, especially on this thread. Must you really be so disagreeable, especially with some of your inane comments as italicized above?

Would you please explain to me - better, all of us, just where it was mandated that the state, or federal government should be in charge of educating our children?

247 posted on 07/01/2003 11:00:09 AM PDT by Budge (God Bless FReepers!)
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To: Past Democrat
Operation American Freedom

I like the sound of that! Let's roll!

248 posted on 07/01/2003 11:24:57 AM PDT by Ferret Fawcet (Trust God's authority, not man's majority.)
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To: Budge; wirestripper; brewcrew; Radix; B.O. Plenty; TexConfederate1861; DoctorMichael; caisson71; ...
This is a good article by Cal Thomas relevant to this thread. See also the article at post #246.

End of the Constitution?

249 posted on 07/01/2003 11:56:36 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Cultural Jihad
Be sure to paint the Moon purple while you're at it, too.

Luna-tics.

250 posted on 07/01/2003 12:15:23 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: sweetliberty
Justice Scalia exhibits a occasional attitude because he is vastly outnumbered on the court. His only help seems to come from the courts newest and junior member.

The rest either do not share Scalia's passion for states rights and limited government or are dead set against it in favor of a more European view of human rights that trump all. In fact, many of his worst nightmares spend their off time in the bowels of Europe where they get even more ideas for human kind.

I do not blame him for being a bit edgy in his commentary. Sullivan is full of it on this one and there is no explanation (printable) for Dowd's comment.

251 posted on 07/01/2003 12:32:53 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: Budge; Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
I have read a lot of your comments, especially on this thread. Must you really be so disagreeable, especially with some of your inane comments as italicized above?

Try not to mind the gun-grabber brigade. They're in the minority here at FR.

252 posted on 07/01/2003 12:38:47 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: sweetliberty
I may be wrong, but I still don't share Cal's thoughts regarding the major effects of this ruling.

I agree that Kennedy's opinion was scary but the rest were all over the map with their footnotes.

The court does not seem to have much unity even though there was a majority.

I await the coming challenges, lower court rulings and the rest of the story.

253 posted on 07/01/2003 12:41:02 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: Budge
Proposal: Since I at one time replied to CJ's posts in good faith, I believe that I have good evidence, as you do, that he/she is not honorable, is a disruptor. I have just quit replying to him/her. Now I see that Chancellor Pallantine is the same way. Even though I posted to him/her last night, I think we should just ignore them totally. They are just disruptors.
254 posted on 07/01/2003 1:17:42 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; Cultural Jihad
Your posts are mentioned above, so I am pinging you.
255 posted on 07/01/2003 1:19:21 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Cultural Jihad
Just like their leftist comrades, they want the centralized power of the federal government to determine what state and local laws should be.
256 posted on 07/01/2003 1:55:49 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: jmc813; Budge; yall; Cultural Jihad; Roscoe; irish_links
Budge; Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
I have read a lot of your comments, especially on this thread. Must you really be so disagreeable, especially with some of your inane comments as italicized above?
Try not to mind the gun-grabber brigade. They're in the minority here at FR.
252 -jmc-

They've just been joined by an 'irish_link'..
Search on my name for our exchange about assault weapons this morning.
257 posted on 07/01/2003 1:56:17 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: sweetliberty
Give the people bread and circuses and they will be happy enough.
258 posted on 07/01/2003 2:00:01 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Roscoe


"they want the centralized power of the federal government to determine what state and local laws should be."
-roscoe lies-


Typical BS. -- We want the constitution to be honored by federal, state and local governments.

259 posted on 07/01/2003 2:01:36 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak)
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To: tpaine
We want the constitution to be honored by federal, state and local governments.

No, you want the states and local governments to be forced to conform to your ignorant misrepresentations of the Constitution.

260 posted on 07/01/2003 2:04:53 PM PDT by Roscoe
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