What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)

[TexConfederate1861]

The answer is the the same as it was in 1861.
SECESSION....a very real alternative, and the only Constitutional remedy to the problem of a tyrannical and overbearing Federal Government, that unfairly taxes it's people, it's courts are abusive etc.

[DoctorMichael]

What brought this on?

One word: Relativism.

[ChefKeith]

The beast="666"

Nuff said

[Comus]

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)

I guess this did not apply to the South. By the way, Lincoln was a STATIST PIG THAT GOT WHAT HE DESERVED!

[caisson71]

"What are our options...." Buy another box of ammo.

[sweetliberty]

"Most of the FReepers who have given a lot of thought to sedition, survivalism, and despair are not posting here anymore."

I was not suggesting any of those things. But can you say that you are honestly not concerned with the subversion of the Constitution? Maybe you'll be okay until they take 60, 70 ir 80% of YOUR income to support socialist programs or until they come and take your kids away because the state, or a whiney neighbor, didn't like how you disciplined them. Or maybe the forefathers didn't really mean any of those things they said.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Question: "What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?"

Answer: Slavery or fight.

[bluebunny]

I have thought about this myself somethimes. I don't think it is such a bad idea.

[sweetliberty]

I'm no champion of Lincoln, but I do like the quote. And you're right, apparently it didn't apply to the south. And ever since the end of that war the states have lost more and more rights to the central government.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I have never heard anyone speak of Lincoln's assassination that way, before.

[Ferret Fawcet]

Even if people DID form militias (or what have you) and start a revolt, could we ever hope to succeed? The gov't has all the high-tech weapons and gizmos- the citizens would be out-gunned.

I'm ready for Jesus to come back, myself- He's the only answer to this (and every other) mess we're in. Keep looking up!

[Pan_Yans Wife]

You have a point. If we don't revolt, we have no other nation to move to. Utopia does not exist. And, if America is the best nation on the planet, then no American would wish to move to another nation. The Second Coming may be the only answer.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Ping.

[Ahban]

As you know, the answer is not to be found in the Republican party. Only a Religious awakening can save us.

I have a little thought experiment for the fudge packers and their sympathizers who poullute freerepublic with their relativsm...


Take two nations that have equal resources in every other way. In one, the laws of Texas apply, go beyond it even, cohabitation is illegal and there is no such thing as 'no-fault' divorce when children are involved. In the other nation, half the population engages in sodomy and prostitution. The other half is cohabiting.

Which nation will be the greater nation 100 years hence? Whose children will be in the best mental health? Which people will be happier, freerer, and more prosperous? There is no doubt in my mind that nation whose laws best conform to the actual moral order of the universe will be the nation whose citizens are most blessed.

[IYAAYAS]

I've always believed the second civil war is a matter of when, not if. The more time passes, the more I think I'm right. It all depends, do YOU want to fight? If so, vote for democrats. Or, do you want your KIDS to fight? Then vote for republicans.
You know, the whole tree of liberty thing...

[joesnuffy]

We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back.

A rollar coaster ride into hell.... The dems on the dips into total depravity and the repubs on the slight rises slightly out of depravity...the ride ends up in the same place however..... One if by land two if by sea

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Social war is coming, when I do not know. The symptoms are; every vice known to man is being unleashed by those in authority. The office holders are allowing a flood of third worlders in the country and supporting them at the taxpayers expense.The office holders are exporting jobs at an ever faster rate. Criminals are being favored over non-criminals, by the office holders.

[Shamrock-DW]

Keep looking up!

....and see the JADAM coming at you!

[joesnuffy]

Depraved citizens eyeballing the children of the people they hate and would love to make over as depraved as themselves...
Slithering their way into all our institutions under the pretense of their constitutional rights

[Radix]

Pardon my ignorance.

I believe that it was conditional upon entry into the Union that Texas has the unique opportunity to divide itself into five sepArate and distinct States.

Imagine 8 more Federal Senators from Texas. Oh, the havoc they could wreak on the Liberals and their Marxist agenda.

I must do some homework on this. I could have read some foolish Paper, and mistaken it for a legal Covenant. I am certain that I have read this though.

I will look into this.