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What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?
June 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: tpaine
- Close state schools and tell the feds to go to hell

Oooooh! Now there's a gameplan I could get behind.

201 posted on 07/01/2003 3:16:15 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Cultural Jihad
The solution was very simple. - Close state schools and tell the feds to go to hell. Ah, more anarcho-lunacy from the perpetually-unhappy "If Only Everyone Thought As I Did Then I Would Be Happy" crowd

When was the Federal Department of Education founded, o bright one?
It wasn't too long ago that there even STATE funding didn't exist for schools.

There's no Constititional mandate for Federal Education, and there's absolutely NO reason that we can't abolish all public education, either.

202 posted on 07/01/2003 3:19:49 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Which part of "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" are you having trouble with?
203 posted on 07/01/2003 3:22:37 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: MississippiMan
Homosexuality will be rampant. What we see in Disney World today will be commonplace on the vast majority of American streets.

Why? Are you going out to bugger someone now that it's legal? Do you really believe that the LAW prevents people from having sex?

204 posted on 07/01/2003 3:25:37 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: sweetliberty
No free people loses their rights overnight.

It happens incrementally, like in Ancient Rome or in Germany during the Weimar Republic.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - can't remember who said that.
205 posted on 07/01/2003 3:47:55 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Ahban
See, what you described with the two "nations" is exactly what the Founders envisioned with the states. That notion was still popular until about 1860. Now THERE is the true diversity that libs give lip service to.
206 posted on 07/01/2003 3:51:51 AM PDT by jammer
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To: MissAmericanPie
Then out numbered we perish in situations like Waco, only it won't be some wacked out figgure and his followers burned to the ground it will be ordinary hard working Christians.

I love your posts, and this one is good. But I must correct one of your assumptions. You will be made to be seen as "wacked out" when your time comes. The propaganda machine has been perfected. Take the Davidians' being "wacked out" with a grain of salt. They might have been just like you or I--except with more resolve to isolate themselves from a sinful world.

207 posted on 07/01/2003 3:55:59 AM PDT by jammer
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To: jammer
bingo
208 posted on 07/01/2003 4:55:35 AM PDT by Ahban
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To: tpaine
The USSC court are not our masters. They have no power to enforce their decisions. Congress has the power to make 'Exceptions' under Art III and the President the power to ignore them

What a crock of crap.

If what you say were true this thread would be a love fest for the Supreme Court. I suggest that if what you said were true there would be no need for this thread. It would not be a subject of discussion.

Can you say thank goodness the surpreme court never overrules the clear meaning of the constitution? Can you say isn't it great that the supreme court never exceeds its constitutional power and if it did it would never get away with it? Isn't it great that the supreme court never takes over the power of the congress and makes up its own laws? Isn't it great the supreme court never says that words that are not in the constituion are in the constitution? Isn't it great that if the Supreme court ever tried to say the law is what ever they say it is,they would all be impeached and convicted?

You can't say any of those things and it be the truth.

You are arguing the the theories upon which this nation was founded are the practice under which we live. Theory and practice separated in 1802. Welcome to the real world!


209 posted on 07/01/2003 4:59:34 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: jammer
You are right on about that.
210 posted on 07/01/2003 5:26:05 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: tm22721
Why would I need an auto sear for an AR-15? So I could go to prison?
211 posted on 07/01/2003 5:31:17 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: OREALLY
Yep...I agree completely. There's still something missing from the DVD version...I think it's the bloody machine gunning of the teacher in one of the initial scenes.
212 posted on 07/01/2003 5:34:42 AM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: ZULU
Here's a similar one, ZULU
"The hottest fires in hell are reserved for those who remain neutral in times of moral crisis." -Edmund Burke

213 posted on 07/01/2003 5:53:26 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: tpaine
"Checks & balances work, if there is a political will to apply them "

That's a very big "IF".

214 posted on 07/01/2003 6:14:35 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: MississippiMan
Your words ring frighteningly true. Only by the grace of God will we get through.

As to your comment about about the churches becoming our last sanctuary of sanity (disputable in light of the caving of many to PC), it reminded me of something a former priest used to say (I am Episcopalian). "You will not find God in church unless you bring Him with you."

215 posted on 07/01/2003 6:23:16 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: pram
I'll have to get back to that one. Looks good. It's high time somebody took down on the Anti Christian Litigation Unit!
216 posted on 07/01/2003 6:25:28 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: DMZFrank
I think we need to have a resurrection of the defiant response of Andrew Jackson to a Supreme Court ruling, "the Supreme Court has ruled, now let them enforce it".

The 'most extreme of cases' have been breeding like rabbits.




217 posted on 07/01/2003 6:25:45 AM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: DAnconia55

Have at it, O Legion of Anarchist. Be sure to paint the Moon purple while you're at it, too.

218 posted on 07/01/2003 6:25:59 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"O Liberty! Liberty! how many crimes are committed in thy name!"--Madame Roland (1754–1793)

Good quote. Who was Madame Roland?

219 posted on 07/01/2003 6:31:07 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: sweetliberty
What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

The Constitution never protected us. It was people who defended and upheld the Constitution who protected us. The Founders had a name for those who did not defend and uphold the Constitution: enemies, foreign or domestic. They had a remedy for those who ignore the Constitution: anything from voting the malefactors out of office up to armed revolution. Those in the government have got to realize that they are the servants of the people and that the government of the United States is the means by which they serve the people. The "government of the United States" is not just another way of saying "the American nation."
220 posted on 07/01/2003 6:37:32 AM PDT by aruanan
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