Posted on 06/30/2003 5:33:56 PM PDT by sweetliberty
It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.
When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?
If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?
I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever in their own sight!..Who justify the wicked for a bribe, And take away the rights of the ones who are in the right!"- (Isaiah 5-20-23)
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." - Abraham Lincoln (first inaugural address)
"the Constitution is not the Supreme Law of the land. The Supreme law of this land is what ever 5 of the nine Supreme court justices say it is."
What is wrong with this picture?
Patrick Henry has noted: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not by religions, but by the gospel of Jesus Christ."
Samuel Adams, just after the 13 colonies voted to separate from England said: "We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom alone men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting sun, may His kingdom come."
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana.
"The only foundation for a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments." Benjamin Rush, college professor and physician.
"It would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this official act my fervent supplication to that Almighty Being, who rules over the universe, who presides in the council of nations, and whose providential aid can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States...Every step by which they have advanced seems to have been distinguished by some providential agency. We ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained." George Washington, President of the United States.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, Founding Father.
"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that their liberties are the gift of God?" Thomas Jefferson, President of the United States.
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." First Chief Justice, John Jay, and Governor of New York.
"Where there is no religion, there is no morality...with the loss of religion...the ultimate foundation of confidence is blown up; and of life, liberty and property are buried in ruins." Timothy Dwight, President, Yale University, July 4, 1798.
"The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible." Noah Webster, compiler of the American Dictionary of the English Language in 1828.
"Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all the blessings which flow from them, must fall with them." Jedidiah Morse, father of American Geography. Also father of Samuel Morse inventor of the telegraph and "Morse Code".
"It is impossible to mentally or socially enslave a Bible-reading people." Horace Greeley founder of the New York Tribune.
"It is my conviction that the fundamental trouble with the people of the United States is that they have gotten too far away from Almighty God." Warren G. Harding, 29th President of the United States.
"If we and our posterity shall be true to the Christian religion, if we and they shall live always in the fear of God and shall respect His Commandments...we may have the highest hopes of the future fortunes of our country...But if we and our posterity neglect religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity." Daniel Webster
What nonsense. Get back to me when you have achieved the 'unite' part. At that point a 3rd Party is really moot anyway.
I'm a Southern Baptist myself. I attend a church that averages 600-800 in Sunday morning worship service. Our pastor is a devout, Godly man who preaches the Bible unapologetically.
With all that said, though, I must say that we--and that certainly includes ME--Southern Baptists have our own problems. I think we too get far too wrapped up in the comfort and convenience and the entertainment aspect. I think we far too often hole up in the sanctuary on Sunday, get our own spiritual batteries recharged, take comfort in feeling like we have at least one place of sanity left. There's nothing wrong with any of that, provided it doesn't become primary and provided it doesn't hamper our taking the truth OUT of the church. I personally need to do a much better job of that.
As for our country, it breaks my heart. Lib, in your original post, you asked what we saw coming in ten years, in twenty years, etc. Provided the Lord doesn't return by then, and provided there hasn't been cataclysmic judgment or war, here's a snapshot of where I think this country will be in twenty years:
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*** The Supreme Court UPHELD The Constitution. ***
You Fundie dorks really need to get a grip.
Yet all of a sudden you want to revolt because two gay men finally get equal protection of the laws for something they do in their own homes???
Sickening. Twisted and sickening.
You break their will to use them. And they can't use WMD on population centers. Not all will join them, etc.
It's merely a tactical question.
It is not possible for them to hold such a large territory if a significant number of Americans were to initate armed rebellion, and choose their targets correctly.
But talking about this over a court ruling that upholds the Constitution is extremely stupid.
I merely replied to the idea that you cannot fight and win. Nonsense. It's always possible to win, no matter how unlikely.
Colonization (Moon, Mars, etc) is an answer. But the Government already knows what will happen once colonization starts (see 1776) - therefore they are closing this avenue of escape.
The evil is quite deep, and intelligent.
Conservatives don't overthrow govenments, they ignore them until they choke themselves to death.
California is now in its death throes and will be the first to go.
BUMP
Over gay sex?
Why not gun control, the IRS, taxation, rampant socialism?
I just don't get it. There's 50,000 more important things to revolt over than two men having sex.
They don't care about anything that is actually important - you sure you want to encourage them? I doubt I'd want to see the goverment formed afterwards.
I'm discouraging people who want to replace the current system and order of things.
Why do you lie?
You don't mean THIS at all :
That puts us between a rock and a hard place when the laws of the land begin to make it impossible to obey God
THIS is what you actually mean :
That puts us between a rock and a hard place when the laws of the land begin to make it impossible to FORCE OTHER PEOPLE TO obey God.
Bwhahahahahahahah! What rock have you been living under?
Yeah but you'd better keep that auto sear in a very hidden place.
BUMP
You, of course, realize that this exactly described our forefathers in the period leading up to 1776?
Save the propaganda for a while.
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