Lawmakers holster concealed-gun bill (Ohio)

The Plain Dealer ^ | 06/26/03 | T.C. Brown

[Blood of Tyrants]

Columbus - Don't bother to shop yet for a shoulder or ankle holster.

A bill that would permit Ohioans to carry concealed guns is stalled at least until the fall, when legislators return from summer recess.

House lawmakers were unable in the past two days to reconcile differences in the bill with Gov. Bob Taft and the Ohio Highway Patrol.

Troopers want restrictions, added by the Senate, that require motorists to display guns or lock them up and that eliminate an allowed defense that would let a motorist prove he needed a gun without a permit.

The impasse angered Republican House Speaker Larry Householder, who said Senate leaders gave too much control to Taft, who had said he would not sign a bill opposed by the patrol and other law enforcement agencies. The patrol and the Ohio Fraternal Order of Police are neutral on the Senate's version.

Householder had called for a conference committee of both chambers to fix differences.

"The Senate has given the authority for negotiations to the governor," Householder said. "I guess I'll be talking to the governor. He is our new lawmaker."

The bill would permit Ohioans to apply for a license to carry a concealed handgun.

John Hohenwarter, state liaison for the influential National Rifle Association, said the Senate's version is too restrictive. He wants the bill reconsidered later.

"We favor keeping the process moving and trying to come up with language that we can be comfortable with," Hohenwarter said.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Looks like you Ohioans are showing enough "grovel factor" to be "granted" your RKBA.

[AlaskaErik]

Once again ignorance takes the day.

[newgeezer]

Troopers want restrictions, added by the Senate

What is it about "shall not be infringed" that these morons fail to understand?

[newgeezer]

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[Shooter 2.5]

It sounds like someone better start writing letters to the police associations. Do they really want a law that states a driver of a vehicle should keep a loaded gun inches away on the passenger seat? Are they eager to kill law abiding drivers reaching for their insurance papers? How many calls to 911 do they want reporting "Man with a gun" while someone is trying to obey the ridiculous law they support?

[glock rocks]

right. I carry <evil music> black guns </evil music> and I'd just love to set them in the sun on the leather seats in my vette on a sunday drive around the city with the top down.

not only would it not be rapidly and safely accessible at a traffic light, it would be about 350 degrees. brilliant.

oh... and certainly I'd never space out a bit and leave it on the seat </blond> while I run into 7-11. gawd.

I suppose when enough marxists move up here to Utah from PRK, I can move to Alaska.

[unixfox]

Fear the government that fears your guns!!

[45Auto]

I suppose this means that the good citizens of Ohio are now free to carry ala Vermont and Alaska-style with no restrictions and no permit required since the Ohio courts have declared Ohio's non-carry laws to be unconstitutional?

[Imal]

Troopers want restrictions, added by the Senate, that require motorists to display guns or lock them up and that eliminate an allowed defense that would let a motorist prove he needed a gun without a permit.

I guess they want to avoid the wholesale slaughter of police officers that has occured in the 34 "shall-issue" states and Vermont, where citizens don't even need a license to carry and therefore presumably hunt highway patrolmen for sport.

The fact that Ohio is in the minority on CCW is a result of the deliberate stupidity of its leaders, and, apparently its highway patrol.

[Travis McGee]

OH Ping.

[patton]

Only in one or two counties, until ther Supreme Court rules.

[Squantos]

Hey I have a question.........Will the ruger bisley grip conversion kit from brownells fit a old army ruger blackpowder revolver ? I'm a fan of the bisley and wonder if the old army ruger uses the same frame as the blackhawk and vaquero ?

Stay Safe !

[Shooter 2.5]

I just hung the phone up with fiveshooter and he picked up his Old Army today. The Vaquero Bisley was the last gun he bought just two weeks ago. I'll have to wait until morning to ask.

[glock rocks]

I think the answer to your second question is yes.

http://www.pistolgrips.com/Reference/Ruger%20Reference/ruger_reference.html

[Squantos]

My local gun runner has no pull I guess I have had the gloss stainless 5.5 inch old army ruger and the new S&W 329PD on order for almost 40 days now..............dang !!

Thanks for the help 2.5 & GR !!........Tell 5shtr I said hey also. I think the Bisley frame on the old army would be a kewl mod if it works as GR's link says.

Stay Safe !!

[DarkWaters]

Taft is a RINO, he lied about not raising taxes, has ballooned the state budget, and this is the latest topper although he has been stopping a measure like this since he has been in office.

[ForOurFuture]

Republican House Speaker Larry Householder

Appropriate name for a House Speaker.

[ForOurFuture]

Republican House Speaker Larry Householder

Appropriate name for a House Speaker.

[ForOurFuture]

Republican House Speaker Larry Householder

Appropriate name for a House Speaker.

[ForOurFuture]

Republican House Speaker Larry Householder

Fitting name for a House Speaker.