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Oppie Was A Commie
Accuracy In Media ^ | June 27, 2003 | Notra Trulock

Posted on 06/27/2003 9:05:38 AM PDT by walford

...rather than have Oppenheimer supply classified documents to agents, his Soviet spy masters might have preferred that he "appoint other Communists to key positions who would in turn hand over the information." Crouch then identified a number of scientists with Party affiliations appointed by Oppenheimer to key positions in the Manhattan Project. Nearly fifty years later, the Schecters would uncover a letter in the Soviet spy archives written by Lavrenti Beria, Stalin’s chief spy and then head of his nuclear program. Beria refers to Oppenheimer as an "unlisted agent" of the CPUSA and praises Oppenheimer’s role in providing Soviet spies access to U.S. atomic secrets...

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To: walford
You may be interested in the book "Brotherhood of the Bomb" which deals with this subject. Here is a description of the book:
J. Robert Oppenheimer was once much closer to the Communist Party than he ever admitted. Yet as director of the laboratory that built the atomic bomb and as a weapons adviser to the government after World War II, he served his country more scrupulously than did many of those who made an issue of his loyalty. This arresting paradox is at the heart of the most commanding history yet written of the internal politics of the United States during the early years of the nuclear age, ''Brotherhood of the Bomb,'' by Gregg Herken, a historian at the Smithsonian Institution.

Herken shows how high-ranking officials conspired, sometimes with illegal wiretaps, to push Oppenheimer out of government service in 1954, and forced an Army general to testify falsely that Oppenheimer was a security risk. He also shows that Oppenheimer's petty deceits about who told him what concerning potential Soviet espionage were motivated more by personal than political loyalties and damaged himself more than anyone else. Herken's new material includes recently opened F.B.I. files, more than 80 interviews, and previously closed papers of several key actors in the drama.

The ''brotherhood'' of his title has a double meaning. It refers to the men in the subtitle, ''The Tangled Lives and Loyalties of Robert Oppenheimer, Ernest Lawrence and Edward Teller.'' These giants of atomic physics were bound together for decades in complex, tension-ridden alliances partly of their own making, but often created by military and political institutions that used them. Their ventures were driven by vanity, political dogma, vested interests, lust for power and, most shocking, perhaps, honest assessments of the welfare of the nation and the world.

But Herken's title also invokes the relationship between Robert Oppenheimer and his brother, Frank, also a physicist, whom Robert brought into the Manhattan Project despite Frank's having been a member of the Communist Party from 1937 to 1941. Later, Robert Oppenheimer's contradictory stories about spies appear to have been designed to protect his brother. These lies made him vulnerable to attack by those who wanted to destroy him for other reasons, especially for opposition to specific weapons initiatives supported in the early 50's by Teller and the Air Force. Teller, who eventually replaced Oppenheimer as the nation's most influential adviser on nuclear weapons, testified in 1954 that Oppenheimer should be denied a security clearance.

Herken tells the stories of both brotherhoods simultaneously in an enthralling narrative that moves from Berkeley to Los Alamos to Washington and several other places where bombs were designed, tested and debated. The University of California, Berkeley, was the academic home of both Oppenheimer and Ernest Orlando Lawrence, a machine-designing experimentalist of enormous creativity who had won a Nobel Prize in 1939 for designing the cyclotron. Lawrence was the government's initial choice to direct the Los Alamos laboratory. But his casual attitude toward security gave pause to James B. Conant and Vannevar Bush, the top science advisers to the White House.

Lawrence had brought Oppenheimer into a committee of scientists advising the government about building the bomb, and he offered such shrewd advice on one technical question after another that he became indispensable to the project. Gen. Leslie Groves, the military officer in charge of the Manhattan Project, ultimately chose Oppenheimer, even though he was a theorist with no administrative experience, as director at Los Alamos. Groves was aware that Oppenheimer's family, friends and students included many former members of the Communist Party, but his own contact with Oppenheimer in 1942 convinced him of his integrity and loyalty.

Yet Herken's research places Oppenheimer closer to the Communist Party in 1940 and 1941 than even the F.B.I. was able to do during its intensive investigations in the 40's and 50's. Herken leaves open the possibility that Oppenheimer was a member of the party's secret ''professional section'' in Berkeley. He is more decisive on a much more important issue: he finds no evidence that Oppenheimer ever passed secret information to Soviet intelligence, or that any sympathy with Soviet political aims distorted the advice he gave the American government.

There certainly were spies at Los Alamos. Klaus Fuchs and Ted Hall have long since been identified, and there was at least one other whose identity remains undisclosed. But F.B.I. wiretaps quoted by Herken reveal Robert Oppenheimer's Communist friends in Berkeley plotting espionage while complaining ruefully about his refusal to talk to them about his secret work. Soviet documents available since the end of the cold war record frustration that agents had not been able to recruit Oppenheimer. Herken shows that Oppenheimer, once he entered government service, vindicated Groves's faith in him.

Groves was coerced into testifying against Oppenheimer in 1954. The episode is one of many recounted here that reveal the paradox of Oppenheimer's loyalty being made an issue by people less scrupulous than he was in the exercise of their duties. The basis for what amounted to a kind of blackmail was a conversation between Groves and Oppenheimer late in 1943, which made Groves vulnerable to prosecution for felony violation of a statute prohibiting withholding of material information about espionage in wartime.

The general ordered Oppenheimer to name physicists who had been approached by Soviet agents. Oppenheimer himself had alerted junior security officers that overtures had been made, but declined to identify the physicists who had been targeted as potential spies. Now he told Groves that there was only one -- his brother, Frank. But he extracted a promise that Groves was never to disclose this to the F.B.I. To the F.B.I. Oppenheimer gave yet another account of the espionage effort, making no mention of his brother, but implicating others, including Haakon Chevalier, a Berkeley professor of French who, Oppenheimer said, served as an intermediary in the Soviet initiative.

Groves not only kept his promise, but was a steadfast defender of Oppenheimer for the next decade, voluntarily giving Oppenheimer in 1950 a resounding written testimonial he could show to any authorities that questioned his loyalty. But back in 1943 an aide in whom Groves confided had leaked the Groves-Oppenheimer secret to the F.B.I. During the intervening years J. Edgar Hoover was furious at Groves for keeping from him what he already knew privately. So when Lewis Strauss, chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission, prepared A.E.C. hearings on Oppenheimer in 1954, Hoover was ready to help. Most of the evidence against Oppenheimer was information long on record about his associations with Communists, and his conflicting stories about the role of his friend Chevalier. But Strauss and Hoover knew that this old information might play differently if Groves could be induced to put a different construction on it.

Hoover worked closely with Strauss to orchestrate Groves's testimony in the context of Groves's vulnerability to prosecution. He was allowed to avoid mentioning his private conversation with Oppenheimer. Thus he was not obliged to contradict testimony Oppenheimer gave at the same hearing to the effect that his brother Frank had ''nothing whatever to do'' with the approach made by Soviet agents. All Strauss needed on the record from Groves was a clear statement that he now regarded his protege as a ''security risk.'' Groves delivered on cue.

Did Oppenheimer tell Groves the truth? And if so, might Oppenheimer's reluctance to see his brother branded as someone whom his Communist friends found to be good spy material have been based on awareness that his brother was, indeed, tempted? Herken did not find evidence to support an answer to these questions.

But ''Brotherhood of the Bomb'' enables us to put what we do not know in the perspective of what we do know: 35 years after his death, J. Robert Oppenheimer remains, more than ever, one of those people who, in Stephen Spender's phrase, ''leave the vivid air singed with their honor.''


141 posted on 06/28/2003 2:46:34 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Hey grandma, buy your own drugs!)
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To: liberallarry
Of What Is Leo Szilard Guilty?

Correct link.

142 posted on 06/28/2003 2:46:37 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: DPB101
Hiss, Oppenheimer and the other spies certainly had a lot of defenders. It would be worthwhile to note who they were/are.

The revelations of the 1990s led few of these spy supporters to acknowledge how wrong they were.
143 posted on 06/28/2003 2:56:19 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: liberallarry
The left had been trying to chew America up in the Pacific since the early 1930s Get a life. The one you've got is worthless.

Typical. But it won't work. Not after Venona and the KGB files. We know Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, Alger Hiss and other Soviet agents did all they could to provoke a Japanese attack on America to draw Imperial troops away from a conflict with the Soviets. After the defeat of Germany, they were content to not use the A-bomb on Japan to give the Soviets time to take what they could in the east.

144 posted on 06/28/2003 3:05:49 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: Straight Vermonter
Great post.

I recognize the reality described here - in all its nuance, complexity, seeming contradiction, impure motivation. The author must be a very interesting person and a very good researcher.

145 posted on 06/28/2003 3:09:03 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: DPB101
You're doing the same thing - assuming Szilard was an agent of the Soviets simply because their goals in certain areas corresponded for a period of time.

You're also confused.

The Japanese attacked America in '41. There's no indication whatsoever that Szilard had anything to do with that - or that the Japanese decision was due to Soviet manoevering. In '45 the Soviets were invited by the U.S. to participate in the attack on Japan in the hope of shortening the war and lessening the loss of American life. The atom bomb rendered their participation unnecessary...but they managed to grab plenty in the Far East anyway. Who was going to stop them?

None of this has a damn thing to do with Szilard...except to tin-foil conspiracy nuts.

146 posted on 06/28/2003 3:19:08 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
By the way, Japan was after China and Western European colonial possessions - which they got but couldn't hold. Their conflict with the Russians was only tangential. That's why they didn't fight during WWII. Again, that's obvious to anyone with half a brain.
147 posted on 06/28/2003 3:22:46 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Bertrand Russell.

Russell like the rest of the Bloomsbury group were hopelessly blindfolded by their utopian beliefs. Russell and Whitehead burned their brains out on the Principa, Whitehead went right and Russell went left, disgustingly Earl Russell has a branch on my family tree, limey scum side.

148 posted on 06/28/2003 3:28:48 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Little Bill
...disgustingly Earl Russell has a branch on my family tree, limey scum side

Why I love Free Republic. Where else could I find a post like that? :)

But I think you sell them short. Russell was very clear-headed, so far as I can tell, and courageous. But he chose a way of life, a set of beliefs and values, which is disturbing.

I was a member of ZPG for awhile, but parted company with the Lefties when they refused to see that high-birthrates in Third-World countries were a serious problem. It was only a thread ago that I discovered that ZPG is a dumbed-down, politically correct version of Russell's eugenic vision.

149 posted on 06/28/2003 3:53:15 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: DPB101
Russia Imperialism in Asia and the Russo-Japanese War

A brief history of the Russian-Japanese conflict in the Far East.

150 posted on 06/28/2003 4:06:31 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Russell was never the same after he and Whitehead did the Principa, he was a jibbering idiot, or so I remember him, in the '60's. My original Little Bills Grandnephew bought a Feoff from the Bedfords at a mark down price, while we were starving and proliffic, when Cromwell was in office. The Russells made their money in the Slave trade if hear say is admitted.
151 posted on 06/28/2003 4:15:14 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: HanneyBean
Me too. Floyd maybe, but not Opie!
152 posted on 06/28/2003 4:21:40 PM PDT by gitmo (What's in the Constitution isn't. And vice-versa.)
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To: Freedom4US
Well that was nice of him.

I saw this one episode of Happy Days, Ritchie was for Stevenson and Fonzie was for Ike. Fonize's speech about Ike was crappy though and Henry Winkler I believe is also a commie. :)
153 posted on 06/28/2003 4:23:43 PM PDT by Impy (Dear Justice O'Connor, If you want to see your cat alive again.....)
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To: liberallarry; DPB101; HISSKGB
"Get a life..the one you have is worthless." My,my..your rhetoric has taken a turn,hasn't it.Won any freepers yet to your vision of a socialist world that works?
154 posted on 06/28/2003 4:36:20 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: SauronOfMordor
An investigation was conducted by the FBI regarding the famous physicist because of his affiliation with the Communist Party. Einstein was a member, sponsor, or affiliated with thirty-four communist fronts between 1937-1954. He also served as honorary chairman for three communist organizations.

And the result of that investigation was what? Ronald Reagan and David Horowitz also had close associations with communists, and those experiences led to their eventual strong anti-communist philosophies.

155 posted on 06/28/2003 4:38:23 PM PDT by Moonman62
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To: liberallarry
...a regime worse than Nazi Germany
You're full of s--t.

In terms of number of own citizens killed, the USSR was far worse than Nazi Germany. The USSR preceded Germany in the use of concentration camps for "undesirables" (See "Black Book of Communism"). The USSR engaged in systematic genocide of the Ukrainian people thru the use of deliberate starvation (see Robert Conquest's "Harvest of Sorrow").

156 posted on 06/28/2003 4:57:13 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: MEG33
They get very emotional when their heros are exposed as Soviet agents.

HOW THE COMMUNISTS HELPED TO BRING ON PEARL HARBOR
AND OPEN UP ASIA TO COMMUNIZATION

By Anthony Kubek, University of Dallas

The last 6 months were critical. War with Japan was probably in the works no matter what. But the Soviet Agents around FDR pushed it on America before we were ready. Of the events leading to the fall of China after the war--there isn't any debate: traitors in our government did it.

Gareth Jones who, as you know, had Hitler and Stalin peged in 1931, thought war with Japan was not on the horizon in 1935. What he didn't know is Richard Sorge was operating in Japan and Harry Dexter White in America--both of whom supported the "Strike South" faction in Japan which eventually bombed Pearl Harbor. Jones made the mistake of staying with Sorge's radio operator in Tokyo--a stay which probably led to his murder in Manchukuo latter that year.

157 posted on 06/28/2003 4:58:58 PM PDT by DPB101
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To: liberallarry
Are you saying they made a mistake? We should have sided with the Nazis against the Russians?

We might have spared the world a huge amount of suffering if we had allowed Hitler to expend himself eliminating Stalin, then taken Hitler out afterword.

Or alternately, as Patton wanted, conquered Russia after we were done with Germany and still had the monopoly on the A-bomb.

When you have two mad dogs at each other's throats, it's not a question of which one you want to win. The correct answer is "neither".

158 posted on 06/28/2003 5:12:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: liberallarry
That they thought Nazism to be far worse than Communism is understandable to me. Communism was a utopian vision of a better world for everyone. The Russian version was hopeless but perhaps it's possible to construct some sort of socialist entity which will work. People do cooperate from time to time.

The Communist vision is inherently and intrinsicly evil.

Communism is based upon slavery -- the slavery of the productive for the benefit of the unproductive, with the unproductive elements that most benefit being the Party members who lived lavishly in the midst of general poverty. No Southern slaveholder in his plantation house lived better than the Party leader in his dacha, and the amount of terror and suffering that is needed to hold up the institution of Communism dwarfs that of the institution of slavery

159 posted on 06/28/2003 5:19:06 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: jmq
<Not our little Opie. No way is he a commie. He was brought up right. Not like some All in the Family loser.

my thoughts exactly. i was having palpatations as i clicked to see if our sweet little opie was a communist. somebody get my heart medicine...
160 posted on 06/28/2003 5:26:12 PM PDT by radiohead
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