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300 Sacks Castor Beans Found In Iraq By U.S.Troops[per MSNBC]
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| June 25, 2003
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Posted on 06/25/2003 9:14:47 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
I was watching TV this evening and started to flip cable channels when I saw a streaming on MSNBC on our forces finding castor beans. The following is a part of what their website said about it.
NBC News Jim Miklaszewski that within just the past week, U.S. investigators had found two shipping containers filled with millions of much more recent documents relating to chemical and biological weapons.
One of the documents, from 2001, was titled Document burial and U.N. activities in Iraq, the sources said. It gave detailed instructions on how to hide materials and deceive U.N. weapons inspectors, the sources said.
Other documents related to the concealment of VX nerve gas, the sources said.
The sources said U.S. troops also discovered about 300 sacks of castor beans, which are used to make the deadly biological agent ricin, hidden in a warehouse in the town of al-Aziziyah, 50 miles southeast of Baghdad, the capital. The castor beans were inaccurately labeled as fertilizer.
U.S. search teams have also been led to a site near Nasiriyah, a key Euphrates River crossing 200 miles south of Baghdad, where Iraqi informants said Scud missiles were buried.
Anybody else see this?
TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: MJY1288
I wonder what John "Ketchup Boy" Kerry and Howard "Barney Rubble" Dean will say about this?They'll say it don't amount to a hill of... never mind.
To: MJY1288
62
posted on
06/25/2003 11:38:34 PM PDT
by
scott7278
("If I'm not back by dawn -- call the president.")
To: Lady In Blue
"I think it was in Paris..."Indeed it was...
To: Lady In Blue
When the whole truth is known, I hope we have the Democrat turncoats on tape. We should hound them out of office on a rail!
To: billbears
So it can be used for fertilizer and the bags were</b? marked correctly Are you serious?
The page you linked to stated this:
" Its coat and waste are fertilizer"
It's coat and waste are fertilizer. Were these the coats and waste? No.
Further the page you linked to also said:
The coat of the seed yields a substance used: - For planting and water proofing clothes and covers.
- For the manufacture of high quality lubricant and oil for motor, asphalt and tiles.
- For rubber uses, manufacture of soap, printing ink, dye for cloths and for strengthening leather.
- Its dried oil is good dehydrant and resembles tung oil which is used in making paint, varnish, plastic, rayon, nylon.
- Its dydrogenated oil, a variety of castor oil, is used in making floor wax and for gloss, carbon paper, crayola and candles.
- As a kind of nylon thread that is widely used in France and Brazil.
- For manufacture of liniments and cosmetics.
- Its coat and waste are fertilizer.
- Stems are used as animal feed, but only after removing its poisonous resin in the stem.
- For the manufacture of paper, wall and fuel
Why weren't they accurately labeled"animal feed" or "cosmetics" or "rubber" or "soap" when they could have been made in to any of those as well.
Your post is one of the most distorted I've ever seen.
Did you deliberately distort things like this or are you just very dumb?
To: chance33_98
Maybe Saddam was constipated?
To: Lady In Blue
Well didn't you know that Iraq has a huge "mole" problem and they needed the castor beans to plant in the "sand" to get rid of all those "sand" moles, they were ruining Sadaam's Gardens at all his palaces you know!
The final living mole-repellant Id like to describe is castor bean, also known as castor-oil plant (Ricinus communis). Commercial mole repellent formulas are based on castor oil. Used in the old days as a laxative, there are still many folks out there who can attest to the repellent qualities of castor oil. And it would seem that moles dont like it any better than humans do! A word of caution: castor bean, like mole plant, is poisonous neither should be grown around small children.
<sarcasm off ;)
To: brigette
bump
68
posted on
06/26/2003 3:04:33 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: Bogey78O
It did
not say the bags were mislabled. It said they were
inaccurately labled. This implies that the bags might've been labled "castor beans -
Peruvian blend" when in fact they were "castor beans -
black Afghanie" However, if what was in the bags was castor beans (as the article claims was found to be, and instead the bags were labled "RJ-235 connectors" that would be mislabeling.
On the other hand, if the castor beans were discovered to be contained in many tiny white OEM "RJ-235 connectors" retail packages, a gross of which were packaged in bulk packaging bearing the Radio Shack logo with the SKU# and UPC indicating RJ-235 connectors that would be off-label use of labels with deliberate intent to mislead or deceive label readers. The FTC in that case will be all over their butts on that one, because that's called bait'n'switch, misrepresentation and fraud and there's all kinds of laws against that kind of thing.
69
posted on
06/26/2003 3:22:21 AM PDT
by
raygun
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; JohnHuang2; kayak
Here is the key sentence in the whole article..
NBC News has learned of several recent discoveries, some within the past week, one related to nuclear weapons and the others to chemical, biological and banned conventional weapons.
Who did we capture(Ace of Diamonds) in the last week........seems he is singing like a canary.
70
posted on
06/26/2003 3:22:51 AM PDT
by
Dog
(Charter member of the Baghdad Bob fan club.....)
To: Lady In Blue
Of course no one has seen this. Why? Because there aren't any WMDs in Iraq. Bush just made it all up. /sarcasm
Seriously, if the liberal media report this, it takes away the Dems talking points right now, thus, there's no *bad* news about Bush. And we all know hoe much we need news from the liberal media.
71
posted on
06/26/2003 3:59:12 AM PDT
by
rintense
(Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
To: Ichneumon
I'm with you on these finds. The media is "pressing" with these reports, meaning they are coming across as goofy which makes the administration look bad. Nothing to indicate an active program. Finding a part buried under a rose bush for 13 years isn't exactly indicative of a vibrant active program. Finding castor beans on someone's farm is forced news, not meaningful news.
There are Iraqis who know the state of any illegal programs active immediately prior to the military action to remove Saddam. The problem appears to be that they think it wiser to ride out the American presence in silence rather than risk reprisal after we leave.
To: raygun
It did not say the bags were mislabled. It said they were inaccurately labled. This implies that the bags might've been labled "castor beans - Peruvian blend" when in fact they were "castor beans - black Afghanie" No, the article says that they were inaccurately labled AS fertilizer.
73
posted on
06/26/2003 4:46:09 AM PDT
by
alnick
To: Lady In Blue
Bags of beans...............
The smoking gun
74
posted on
06/26/2003 4:48:42 AM PDT
by
WhiteGuy
(MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
To: kinghorse
I'm with you on these finds. The media is "pressing" with these reports, meaning they are coming across as goofy which makes the administration look bad. Nothing to indicate an active program. Finding a part buried under a rose bush for 13 years isn't exactly indicative of a vibrant active program. Finding castor beans on someone's farm is forced news, not meaningful news. It's interesting that you ignore the millions of documents referred to in the article, and specifically the 2001 document which details how to hide material from UN weapons inspectors. Can't think of a rationalization for that one, huh?
75
posted on
06/26/2003 4:49:20 AM PDT
by
alnick
To: Lady In Blue
Thanks for the info.
....Near the vacant lot where the castor oil plant had stood was a restored packing shed. No-one could explain why it appeared to have a reinforced concrete roof. Dr Ameen said: "That depends on the philosophy of the building's designer. Maybe it's good for ventilation."
76
posted on
06/26/2003 5:07:21 AM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
(There has been a lot of action lately-a lot of it INSTIGATED by Coalition forces.-Gen Myers, Jun 24)
To: billbears
Actually, this is a good analogy to what the hawks consider to be the value of an American soldiers life.
It's equal to a hill of beans.
77
posted on
06/26/2003 5:26:38 AM PDT
by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: alnick
because they may be jackass clinton holdovers trying to spin this before the admin puts the presentation together?
To: kayak
SOOOOoooooo - you mean the U.S. can already say the war was justified under 1441? Paging Joe Biden...
To: Sgt_Schultze
"Wukkin' pu nub!"
[...in all the wrong places........]
80
posted on
06/26/2003 5:48:37 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Any misspellings are caused by a sticky keyboard!! [that darn ol' Coke!])
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