ATF Agents Raid Local Business (They are at it again!)

kirotv ^ | 6/17/03 | kirotv

[El Laton Caliente]

REDMOND, Wash. -- ATF agents stormed into an Eastside business early this morning -- and they were tight lipped about what they're hunting for.

They're still there tonight -- packing up many boxes of evidence.

ATF agents say this is just routine enforcement -- but it looks like much more.

It's all happening in Redmond, Redmond Police are on the scene helping with traffic and security.

Sources tell us that it's the makings of serious weapons that spurred this raid."

"Next thing I know there was ATF people all over the place," said eyewitness Gary Wilson.

Those agents zeroed in on this place -- in a Redmond industrial park.

We've learned it belongs to a business called P-W Arms Incorporated -- that deals in ammunition.

A man who doesn't want to be identified says he's seen piles of old ammo inside.

"Enough to fill a couple of 48 foot trailers -- maybe two or three," he said.

ATF agents, most of them undercover, came prepared for a big haul.

"There was probably a hundred of those officers here - and they swarmed in and evidently there was 6 of these trucks lined up in the street waiting," said John Bovee.

All day they've been hauling crates out of the business. Sources tell us what they found here is guns -- imported in separate pieces so they're legal -- but the parts can be put together to create illegal assault rifles.

Officially -- ATF won't say much at all.

"Only thing I can say right now is that we have an ongoing investigation," said Matt Horace, ATF agent.

The number of agents is large -- the stacks of evidence keep growing -- and the work doesn't seem to be slowing down. Still, ATF insists this is a routine enforcement action-- and people shouldn't worry.

"There's no imminent threat to public safety and we'll be here as long as it takes to conduct our investigation," Horace said.

So far agents have been on the scene about 8 hours. Again, ATF officials won't confirm what this is all about.

But a source tells us this raid is not in connection with a large crime ring or terrorism

[El Laton Caliente]

According to the Barnaul Ammunition website this company is the exclusive importer of Barnaul ammo.

This looks like another case similar to the 2001 Interordenance raid where the batf approved the import of FAL parts kits, they went through customs and batf inspection then the batf raided the importer and their customers.

[coloradan]

So it does indeed appear that it's a routine operation after all: the F-troop routinely approves an importation application, and then busts the importer and the distributer. Competely routine, nothing to see here, move along.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

..."There's no imminent threat to public safety and we'll be here as long as it takes to conduct our investigation," Horace said...

As long as the BATFags exist there is an imminent threat to public safety. Lucky there were no dogs or fourteen year old kids handy for them to shoot.

[coloradan]

All day they've been hauling crates out of the business. Sources tell us what they found here is guns -- imported in separate pieces so they're legal -- but the parts can be put together to create illegal assault rifles.

For those of you who say the AWB isn't a big deal and effort shouldn't be undertaken to let it sunset ...

[Enterprise]

"But a source tells us this raid is not in connection with a large crime ring or terrorism"

Oh thank goodness, I feel so much safer now.

[The_Victor]

Sources tell us that it's the makings of serious weapons that spurred this raid."

Series weapons. This is hugh!

[Dr Warmoose]

Is it funding time again in Washington?

[coloradan]

BATF at it again. "Routine" operation.

[DoughtyOne]

The BATF ceased to be a legitimate federal agency at Waco.

I think the nation would be much safer if we raided their offices, sealed thier doors and put every last one of them in solitary confinement for a decade. Talk about a conspiracy... the BATF fits my definition to a tee.

They answer to nobody. If they are called to testify they lie like the sons of bit-hes they are. They conduct raids and nobody even knows why. They're too damned important to tell the common folks.

The BATF is one step away from being the SS and I'm not convinced at times they aren't.

After Waco I have thought the agency should be disbanded. Since that time I've become even more convinced.

[coloradan]

A flash supressor turns a light arm a heavy weapon, unsuitable for civilian ownership.

[coloradan]

"a light arm into a heavy weapon"

[dd5339]

I like the idea of a whole bunch of people showing up with video cameras to document what "F" troop is doing.

Maybe if we start "publicizing" these raids on the net we can wake up some people.

TTFTH yet?

Semper Fi

[ActionNewsBill]

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[SauronOfMordor]

I think I found the part in the Barnaul Ammunition site that got BATF's knickers in a twist:

The main trend in constructing and production of this type of ammunition is the cartridges with a high piercing and armor piercing capabilities. The cartridge 7N10 surely penetrates a steel slab of 16 mm in thickness at a distance of 100 meters and some elements of titanic alloys armor vests at a distance of 200 meters. The cartridge 7N22 penetrates an armor slab of 6 mm in thickness at a distance of 250 meters. The cartridge 7N13 penetrates an armor slab of 10 mm in thickness at a distance of 200 meters. The cartridge 57-BZ-561S penetrates an armor slab of 20 mm in thickness at an angle of 20 0 at a distance of 300 meters.

[PatrioticAmerican]

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[Blood of Tyrants]

We've learned it belongs to a business called P-W Arms Incorporated -- that deals in ammunition.

A man who doesn't want to be identified says he's seen piles of old ammo inside.

"Enough to fill a couple of 48 foot trailers -- maybe two or three," he said.

So what? If their business is to deal in ammo, two or three truck loads doesn't seem like very much.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Someone once suggested tha the ATF be dissolved and the agents moved into the FBI. The FBI stood up and said that they did not want the ATF agents because when you mix polluted water with good water, you get polluted water.

[OldCorps]

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warning to all little kids and dogs in Redmond:

The ATF is in town. Go home and lock your doors.

[E Rocc]

I like the idea of a whole bunch of people showing up with video cameras to document what "F" troop is doing.

There's nothing they hate more. It's like crosses made of garlic to vampires.

Better yet might be webcams hooked to laptops hooked to cell phones....JBTs in streaming video.

-Eric

[Blood of Tyrants]

It is illegal to sell armor piercing "pistol" ammunition to the general public. Because the ATF ihas practically no oversight, they declared 7.62X39 AP and 7.62 NATO (.308) AP as "pistol" ammunition. Biggest bunch of horseshit I ever heard.