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Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance
CNSNews.com ^ | 6/13/03 | Steve Brown

Posted on 06/13/2003 8:17:51 AM PDT by kattracks

(Editor's Note: Contains information some readers may find objectionable.)

(CNSNews.com) - There's something for everyone on the Internet - even for pedophiles who seek support and acceptance for their fixation on children.

Some of the websites that "celebrate" adults' love for minor children are very careful to monitor their content so they don't break any laws. Pornographic images, erotic literature and other sexually explicit content are nowhere to be found on these sites, but advocates for children find them very troubling nevertheless.

At the website Girl Love Garden, pedophiles claim to be on a quest for social acceptance of their sexual preferences. The website celebrates "the emancipation of girls of all ages and 'girl love,' in general."

The website notes that "true emancipation" lies "in a child's sublime assent to becoming self actualized with the keen-eyed help of a loving mentor (gardener) who is willing to carefully fertilize and tend to the growth of the emotions, spirit and intellectual flora of the garden of a child's soul."

The committee's mission statement offers the view that adults who are "naturally, sensuously attracted to little girls and blossoming young women…will achieve full emancipation only by clothing their souls with a childlike personality and agreeing to 'play safe' with each other…"

Here visitors find "an oasis of shade" among the "refreshing waters of reason" where they are invited to "drink deeply of the exquisite delights to be found herein by Girl Lovers everywhere."

But "boy lovers" need not feel left out. At the Free Spirits website, visitors learn that "boylovers have not chosen of their free will to become so."

"It is an attraction most discover within themselves at a very early age," the site explains. "Through no action of their own, they find themselves considered horrible and vile. Most people who are attracted to minors try to live good lives but find no encouragement from a society and a press that labels all people with that attraction, whatever they do or don't do, as evil monsters," the web site says.

Developers of "BoyChat," the chat room at Free Spirits, admit it is not a place where "well-meaning social workers firmly guide people the way they think they ought to go."

BoyChat says it is run "by boylovers for boylovers." It encourages people posting on the website "to work freely through their own issues and questions."

Anonymity

The operators of both the Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden websites are free to express their views because of the anonymity of the Internet. There are many other online sites catering to "MAAs" (minor-attracted adults, which some pedophiles prefer to call themselves).

Such websites claim to advocate for the civil rights and acceptance of "the most underserved and misunderstood sexual minority remaining in today's human society," according to the Free Spirits mission statement.

Along with chat rooms, these sites include members' galleries, where visitors find personal, historical and literary insights on loving children; and message boards where visitors may discuss issues involving the emotional, romantic and sexual relationships between children and adults.

'Legal'

According to Barry Maddox, spokesperson for the FBI's Baltimore, Md., office, the sites are "totally legal." Maddox told CNSNews.com the sites come close to breaking the law but do not break it."They've done their homework," Maddox said.

Pornographic images, literature or any other sexually explicit content are nowhere to be found on these sites.

"Girl Moments," or stories describing an encounter with a female adolescent that are "tasteful," "well-written," and focus on "friendships or other light-hearted encounters" are welcome at Girl-Love Garden, according to its frequently asked questions (FAQ) section. But it warns visitors not to "include details that evoke a prurient interest in sexual relations.

"Written materials that appear erotic or that advocate or counsel engaging in sexual activity with a minor constitutes a very serious offence" under the criminal codes of Canada, the U.S. and the United Kingdom, the FAQ warns, adding that "your material must be in full compliance with these laws so that when viewed with a prejudicial eye, they could not be seen as openly advocating, counseling, inducing, nor encouraging sexual intimacy with minors."

"We're only interested in those who act upon these impulses," Maddox said. While legal, he added, the sites "do make me sick to my stomach."

Ruben Rodriguez, director of the Exploited Children Unit at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, told CNSNews.com that while he likes the Internet, sites such as Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden "have turned sections of it into a sewer."

"Many of these pedophiles act out on their impulses," Rodriguez said. "These kinds of sites are not something I would welcome."

Rodriguez said all the disclaimers and attempts at de-stigmatizing the "deviant sexual behavior" of pedophiles online are "just excuses" for them to "sit in front of a monitor and masturbate." He expressed "disgust" at the notion of society accepting pedophiles as another minority group.

"I see us sometimes going down a different path," Rodriguez said. "I don't see it getting better, I see it getting worse...going in a direction sometimes that just drives me crazy."

Some MAAs claiming to be Christians say they have found comfort at a website called Philia, which provides news and resources to religious support groups for adults who are attracted to minors. Philia, along with the Christian Boylove Forum (CBLF), are for those who "find themselves in the position of having no one to turn to who shares their faith as well as their sexual feelings.

"This (online message) board attempts to fill that gap by providing a friendly, safe place where we can be honest about our feelings and struggles with sexuality and faith, without fear of destructive criticism or harassment," the CBLF site states. "This is a place for mutual encouragement, support and advice as we seek to deal with our sexuality and society's reaction to it in responsible and healthy ways, to live out our lives with integrity and to express our faith in a way that honors God and demonstrates the love of Jesus Christ to all people."

Both sites are run by "Bach" - the screen name used to protect his identity - a boy lover who told CNSNews.com via e-mail that he has never acted upon his feelings and that he found support through a Christian service agency with which he volunteered.

"I am in a committed relationship with another man and have found that I am able to gain some satisfaction with this compromise," Bach wrote. "We discussed the fact that many message boards didn't allow for a Christian boylover to explore his faith in the context of his sexuality. We were often confronted with boylovers who had a strong hatred for the church, and we were constantly defending ourselves. This was the impetus to form the Christian Boylove Forum."

From CBLF sprung "Christian Consultations," "an annual gathering to bring together Christians (and some non-Christians) who are willing to enter into dialogue about adult attraction to minors," according to the Philia website.

"We have had involvement at the Christian Consultation from various pastors, Christian service workers, members of...Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered Persons," Bach stated in the e-mail to CNSNews.com. "The goal of these encounters was to provide a non-threatening place for dialogue ...to help break isolation and fear.

"I would hope that Christians could come to accept that minor-attracted adults are not monsters, not sex maniacs, not uncontrolled freaks, but folks who have to live their lives with a desire that is demonized by society and the media to an extent that they are fearful to speak of it to anyone," Bach explained.

Julie Posey, a self-described "cyber-crime fighter" runs the website Pedowatch.org. Posey's website claims that "since 1996, she has passed on hundreds of tips to law enforcement involving child sexual predators who use the Internet as a tool to gain access to children who are later sexually assaulted and in rare instances murdered."

Posey is also the author of They Call Me Kendra, which Pedowatch.org describes as an autobiography of "her life experiences as a sexually abused child and tells how she later became one of the nation's leading experts on child sexual predators."

Kendra was the onscreen name Posey used to trap sexual predators online. She told CNSNews.com that Christian Consultation sounded a lot like prison ministers who work with convicted pedophiles.

"They go into prisons and try to help the families," Posey said. "They say, 'Oh, what your loved one did isn't so wrong...he has a love for boys,' and they try to get them (the family) to accept it. But they're trying to get all of society to just accept it, and it's unacceptable to me."

Posey said sites like Free Spirits and Girl-Love Garden are "just working to make their stories sound good.

"I read the North American Man Boy Lovers Association's manifesto one time, and they were like 'sex is actually good for kids,'...well, I can tell you it's not," Posey said. "If society doesn't get a grip right now - and even right now it's going to be difficult, they are definitely going to have the same rights that we have."

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To: jhw61
My husband has already informed me, if anyone ever touches our son.....see ya later honey...i'm off to prison for murder.

I used to think that way, but decided that the last thing my children would need after being molested by some scum would be for their father to go off to jail.

So I've decided that if that ever happens to one of my children, I'll make sure that I have an iron clad alibi when I slaughter the son of a bitch.

61 posted on 06/13/2003 12:01:15 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Excellent advice...I'll pass that on to my husband.
62 posted on 06/13/2003 12:03:13 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: Temple Drake
The website notes that "true emancipation" lies "in a child's sublime assent to becoming self actualized with the keen-eyed help of a loving mentor (gardener) who is willing to carefully fertilize and tend to the growth of the emotions, spirit and intellectual flora of the garden of a child's soul."

Translation: We're a bunch of pervert butt pirates who love to molest children and want desparately to make it sound normal. GAG!
63 posted on 06/13/2003 12:04:00 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ExpatCanuck
Make sure and call me when it's time.
64 posted on 06/13/2003 12:04:38 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: kattracks
Some MAAs claiming to be Christians say they have found comfort at a website called Philia, which provides news and resources to religious support groups for adults who are attracted to minors. Philia, along with the Christian Boylove Forum (CBLF), are for those who "find themselves in the position of having no one to turn to who shares their faith as well as their sexual feelings.

Sheesh, I guess this was only a matter of time.

65 posted on 06/13/2003 12:06:27 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: LanPB01
...every thread that relates to sex on FreeRepublic ends up with some social conservative screaming how every fault in society is somehow the blame of the queers.

As I see it, conservatives don't blame queers, they blame society for falling for the gay agenda. That is, some folks don't care about being manipulated, desensitized and used while social conservatives refuse to be manipulated, desensitized and used.

The ignored warnings by conservative about the slippery slope of normalizing certain behavior is our beef. You may speak out against pedophiles now, but what about the next generation. How will the next generation view pedophiles? Just how far will society sink? It all starts somewhere, and as I said, that's our beef.

66 posted on 06/13/2003 12:06:38 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Go Gordon
Beastiality will come before pedophilia.
67 posted on 06/13/2003 12:07:40 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: ffusco
This is just a natural progression that began by legitimatizing the perverted behavior of homosexuals. After the pedophiles have their way I suppose the family pets will have to watch their backsides. I mean, how do you discriminate against an individual who believes a pygmy goat is sexually attractive?

This whole perverted group believes that any natural predilection should be legitimatized. That is a very flawed argument.
68 posted on 06/13/2003 12:10:24 PM PDT by luvtheconstitution
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To: luvtheconstitution
That's just it. Where do you draw the line of acceptability. What's the next ante.....having a baby and turning them over to the loving souls of the perverts.
69 posted on 06/13/2003 12:17:58 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: Qwerty
....AN OFFENSIVE HYPOCRITE is a waste of MY time and deserves no response!

....and no response will be given to you from me EVER!

70 posted on 06/13/2003 12:31:18 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: luvtheconstitution
I blame bugs Bunny!

In the following cartoons, Bugs appears in some form of ladies garb or does a female-like turn:

Hare-um Scare-um (Hardaway/Dalton, 1939)
Prototypical Bugs dresses up as a female dog to spoof the hunting dog.
Elmer’s Pet Rabbit (Jones, 1941)
Another prototypical Bugs dances with Fudd and addresses him saying, Katherine Hepburn-like, “You dance divinely, really you do.”
The Heckling Hare (Avery, 1941)
Takes the dog’s flowers coquétteishly, saying “For me? Oh, you darling!”
The Wabbit Who Came to Supper (Freleng, 1942)
Appears in womens’ lingerie and screams as Fudd opens door on him.
Bugs Bunny Gets the Boid (Clampett, 1942)
Dances with Beaky Buzzard and asks “Why don’t we do this more often?” Also appears interrupted mid-shower by the bird, and replies coyly “You naughty, naughty boy!”
Super Rabbit (Jones, 1943)
Brief appearance as Little Bo Peep owing to a costume mixup in a phone booth when changing into Super Rabbit.
A Corny Concerto (Clampett, 1943)
Appears as a ballerina, ultimately wrapping his brassiere around the heads of Porky and his hunting dog.
What’s Cookin’ Doc? (Clampett, 1944)
Arises, Carmen Miranda-like, from a mountain of fruits and vegetables which have been hurled at him.
Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips (Freleng, 1944)
Appears as a geisha who mallets a Sumo wrestler.
Hare Ribbin’ (Clampett, 1944)
Appears as a blonde mermaid, driving the Mad Russian dog – well, mad.
Stage Door Cartoon (Freleng, 1945)
One of the can-can dancers Fudd whistles at.
Herr Meets Hare (Freleng, 1945)
Appears as a Wagnerian heroine dancing with Hermann Göering. Same gag used again in What’s Opera, Doc? (Jones, 1957).
Hare Conditioned (Jones, 1945)
Appears as a lady customer who charms the Gildersleeve-like floorwalker, laughing hysterically when Gildersleeve tickles “her” mannequin’s foot.
Mississippi Hare (Jones, 1948)
Appears as a dainty southern belle who is rescued by a big southern beau from the clutches of Colonel Shuffle. When the beau discovers Bugs is a rabbit, he goes into a trance and walks off the boat, prompting Bugs to observe that he almost had a happy ending.
Haredevil Hare (Jones, 1948)
Bugs as coquétte again, romancing K-9, observes that “there’s a beautiful Earth out tonight.”
Hare Splitter (Freleng, 1948)
Bugs impersonates his girlfriend Daisy Lou to abuse a rival, Casbah.
Bowery Bugs (Davis, 1949)
Bugs uses many disguises in this one, one of which is female, in order to heckle Steve Brodie, to the extent that Brodie jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge.
Long Haired Hare (Jones, 1949)
Bugs appears as a bobby-soxer, asking for the autograph of Giovanni Jones with a dynamite pen.
The Windblown Hare (McKimson, 1949)
Bugs appears as Red Riding Hood, singing The Rabbit in Red to the tune of The Lady in Red.
Hillbilly Hare (McKimson, 1950)
Appears as an Ozark cutie who wows the Martin brothers.
Rabbit Fire (Jones, 1951)
Bugs appears as a huntress with Daffy as Gypsy, her hunting dog.
Rabbit Seasoning (Jones, 1952)
Appears as a “stacked” Lana Turner-type, who bamboozles Fudd into shooting her a duck.
Hare Trimmed (Freleng, 1953)
First as Granny, then eloping with Yosemite Sam as a bride. Bugs’ bridal gown gets caught on a nail, revealing his tail. Upon seeing this, Sam goes nuts.
Robot Rabbit (Freleng, 1953)
Appears as a robot cutie – in a potbellied stove, no less.
What’s Opera, Doc? (Jones, 1957)
In perhaps his most famous example of crossdressing, Bugs appears as Brünnhilde and sings the Maltese aria Return My Love, (set to Wagner’s Pilgrim Theme from Tannhäuser) with Elmer Fudd.
Now Hare This (McKimson, 1958)
Appears as Red Riding Hood.
The Unmentionables (Freleng, 1963)
Appears as a flapper who kicks Rocky while doing the Charleston.



71 posted on 06/13/2003 12:34:14 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: kattracks
Why are these sick bastards not being hit with DOS 24/7?
72 posted on 06/13/2003 12:35:22 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: GrandMoM
"....AN OFFENSIVE HYPOCRITE is a waste of MY time and deserves no response!"

You went looking for exactly the answer I gave you. Now you have it, and you don't want it. That's crazy.

"and no response will be given to you from me EVER!"

Good for you!! Stick to your weird principles!

73 posted on 06/13/2003 12:41:35 PM PDT by Qwerty (Breakin' the LAW, Breakin the LAW!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Fifty years from now, when peophelia is accepted
 as an alternative lifestyle, I wonder what new group
 will be seeking societal acceptance for their perversion?


Well, if pedophilia is acceptable by then, look for
deity-eating religionists to be fighting for equality.
74 posted on 06/13/2003 12:45:34 PM PDT by gcruse (Superstition is a mind in chains.)
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To: GrandMoM
....let's see how many FR posters that defend homosexuals, and dispute any connection to the vile NAMBLA or BUTTERFLY KISSES surface and PROCLAIM THEIR OPPOSITION and REPULSION for pedophiles who seek support and acceptance for their fixation on children.

Ask, and you shall receive.

Presenting: Streamline!

75 posted on 06/13/2003 1:04:36 PM PDT by Houmatt (Real conservatives don't defend kiddy porn!)
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To: LanPB01
Equating all the homos with pedophilia is just stupid.

Seeing as 'homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit. And seeing as any exposure to homosexual behavior is child abuse. And seeing as 'homosexuals' are grossly more likely to also be child molesters than non-'homosexuals' are. I think it's stupid to think of a 'homosexual' as anything but a child molester.

We can't risk our children's lives and futures by exposing them to the 'homosexual' recruiters. Since we can't tell which ones will molest from which ones won't molest, we must assume that all 'homosexuals', who have already given in to one perversion, would easily surrender to another perversion if the opportunity presented itself.

76 posted on 06/13/2003 1:09:21 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
"Seeing as 'homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit."

Faulty premise.

"I think it's stupid to think of a 'homosexual' as anything but a child molester."

You're a reality molester.

77 posted on 06/13/2003 1:11:28 PM PDT by Qwerty (Breakin' the LAW, Breakin the LAW!)
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To: luvtheconstitution
This whole perverted group believes that any unnatural predilection should be legitimatized.

Minor correction for accuracy. Neither homosexuality nor child molesting is natural

78 posted on 06/13/2003 1:15:17 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
Bravo!!
79 posted on 06/13/2003 1:18:40 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: Qwerty
Are you sure you spelled your user name corretly?

Qwerty. You meant Queertoo, right.
80 posted on 06/13/2003 1:20:38 PM PDT by jhw61
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