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Missing evolution link surfaces in Africa
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | June 12, 2003 | Peter N. Spotts

Posted on 06/11/2003 3:31:46 PM PDT by aculeus

In a discovery that several colleagues describe as "spectacular" and "extraordinary," an international team of researchers has uncovered fossils in Ethiopia that fill a crucial gap in the record of human evolution.

Judged by their physical characteristics, the 160,000-year-old-fossils - nearly complete skulls of two adults and a child found near the village of Herto - teeter on the razor-thin edge of change between anatomically early and modern humans. The team also found skull pieces and teeth from seven other individuals.

The discoveries dovetail with an expanding body of genetic evidence indicating that modern humans first evolved in Africa about 150,000 years ago.

Over the years, paleoanthropologists have gathered fossils that open windows on key periods in the history of human evolution in Africa dating back millions of years, notes Tim White, co-leader of the team that made the discovery. But "the record has been mute" on what was happening 150,000 years ago, he says.

"We're opening the first window on the continent in this time period," he adds. And the view from the window is "very consistent with the predictions made by genetic evidence" that modern humans originated in Africa.

Combined with existing fossil and genetic evidence, researchers say, the new find seriously undermines hypotheses that modern humans evolved roughly simultaneously in different regions of the world and that in Europe, Neanderthals gave rise to anatomically modern Europeans.

In one sense, the finds at Herto come as little surprise to some paleoanthropologists who work in Africa.

Given the pattern of development in fossils that date to either side of the Herto group, these are the kind of hominids one could expect from that time and that region of Africa, according to Curtis Marean, professor of anthropology at Arizona State University's Institute for Human Origins.

What makes them special, he says, is their "outstanding state of preservation" and their tightly defined dates. The technique that Dr. White's team used allowed it to date the fossils between 160,000 and 154,000 years ago. The age of other potential near-modern human fossils, such as those found at Jebel Irhoud in Morocco, is more uncertain.

The White team, which details its results in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature, first came across the site where the fossils were found on Nov. 16, 1997. It's a landscape that today looks as much like a Martian plain as anything on Earth.

Pebble-strewn, virtually treeless, scorchingly hot, the terrain along the rift valley containing the site stretches in subtle undulations toward distant mountains. But 160,000 years ago, when much of the Northern Hemisphere sagged under a sheath of ice two miles thick, this patch of Africa was the site of a shallow freshwater lake teeming with catfish, crocs, and hippos, researchers say.

According to White, he noticed a butchered hippo skull and related artifacts in an eroding slope near Herto. Eleven days later, he and colleagues returned to survey the site.

As White worked on a shaded enclosure for a lunch break, he says, "I sent two people off to begin the survey near where we had found the hippo." When they came back about a half hour later, both had found hominids, he says.

And the painstakingly slow process of collection and excavation began.

Of the specimens included in Thursday's report, the child's cranium presented perhaps the biggest reconstruction challenge. More than 200 pieces were scattered over some 4,300 square feet of the valley floor, presenting Ethiopian scientist and team member Berhane Asfaw with a 3-D jigsaw puzzle to assemble.

In addition to the hominids, stone tools also emerged from the team's excavations that signal a shift in toolmaking technology to the flake-based features of the Middle Stone Age. Moreover, one of the adult skull fragments shows evidence of parallel surface cuts that could indicate some form of primitive burial rites, the team reports.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancienthistory; crevo; crevolist; ethiopia; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; homosexual; missinglink; skulls
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The settlement had to do something with the body.

160,000 years could have had something to do with it too!!

The real question concerning these deaths is, "What did Bush know and when did he know it".

;<)


Eaker

41 posted on 06/11/2003 5:12:45 PM PDT by Eaker (AdiĆ³s reality; I want to be a Jack-Ass millionaire!!............;<)
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To: aculeus
That's tremendous news. The missing link is found. Now there are two new missing links, one before and one after--we're losing ground. Better hire some more of those degreed but underemployed paleontologists: they are probably still working down at the bookstore waiting for their big break.
42 posted on 06/11/2003 5:13:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: Tamar1973
Your choice of religion does not offend me, your denigration of mine does. I had a lengthy discussion with my Priest wherein we discussed the idea that evolution and creationism are not mutually exclusive.

He told me (paraphrasing) "If your whole faith is built on one exclusive idea, than you cannot therefore accept any variation on that theme."

Catholocism is very inclusive. Come to Mass with me on Sunday, you'll learn a lot.

43 posted on 06/11/2003 5:15:22 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: aculeus
This is NOT an AL SHARPTON thread! Ignore it!
44 posted on 06/11/2003 5:15:23 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: annyokie
There have actually been several. The two that come to mind are the drawings that showed that in early development all fetuses look alike (is that called neotony?) and the spotted moths in England.

With the fetuses, the drawings were falsified. With the moths, the "evolutionary changes" were that the moths had through natural selection become darker because of the pollution from burning coal in England. The "researcher" glued moths to trees as I recall.
45 posted on 06/11/2003 5:15:59 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Tamar1973
You and Jesus, both, dude. You and Jesus both.
46 posted on 06/11/2003 5:16:26 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Wicket
Many are the hoaxes in science. I was referring to the human missing link.

It is not an exact science and there are frauds in all disciplines, as we all know. Thank you for the information, though. I didn't know about the moths and fetal development scams.

Link?
47 posted on 06/11/2003 5:20:16 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: aculeus
James Carville is in Africa?
48 posted on 06/11/2003 5:21:45 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: TheCrusader
" Manfred Mann"

I vote for this guy. I played their record backward at 78 and heard stuff that we cannot reveal to America. You just have to know where to look.
49 posted on 06/11/2003 5:25:01 PM PDT by dozer7
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To: dozer7
For something as ubiquitous as evolution --- the lack evidence is resounding -- LOUD !


Main Entry: ubiq·ui·ty
Pronunciation: -kw&-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin ubique everywhere, from ubi where + -que, enclitic generalizing particle; akin to Latin quis who and to Latin -que and -- more at WHO, SESQUI-
Date: 1597
: presence everywhere or in many places especially simultaneously : OMNIPRESENCE


Short necked humans and giraffes ... where are all the transitionals ... besides cartoons --- animation !


50 posted on 06/11/2003 5:27:37 PM PDT by f.Christian (( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
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To: aculeus
The arguments between the European paleoanthropologists and the African paleoanthropologists is the only real truth coming from this article.

To bad scientists have to be so political in their support of their theories. The past has shown us how this causes shady dealings with the truth.

And again!
52 posted on 06/11/2003 5:38:29 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: annyokie
He told me (paraphrasing) "If your whole faith is built on one exclusive idea, than you cannot therefore accept any variation on that theme."

Your priest's comment reminds of a comment I heard once about liberals: "Their minds are so open, their brains fall out." The idea that we must be open to believing ideas that contradict the word of G-d is blasphemy.

Y-shua's claims were/are claims of exclusivity. He said that He was the "way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by me." Pretty exclusive.

from Answers in Genesis:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/1273.asp

Some questions for theistic evolutionists (and 'progressive creationists')

by Don Batten

The following questions may help those who adhere to some form of theistic evolution (God used evolution to create everything) or progressive creation (God intervened at various points in the process of evolution) to realize that their position violates clear concepts revealed in the Bible-- indeed much that is foundational to the very Gospel itself.

Concept violated: the goodness of God

The Bible says 'God is good' and in Genesis 1:31 God described his just finished creation as 'very good'. How do you understand the goodness of God if He used evolution, 'nature red in tooth and claw', to 'create' everything?

Concept violated: Adam's sin brought death and decay, the basis of the Gospel

According to the evolutionist's (and progressive creationist's) understanding, fossils (which show death, disease and bloodshed) were formed before people appeared on earth. Doesn't that mean that you can't believe the Bible when it says that everything is in 'bondage to decay' because of Adam's sin (Romans 8)? In the evolutionary view, hasn't the 'bondage to decay' always been there? And if death and suffering did not arise with Adam's sin and the resulting curse, how can Jesus' suffering and physical death pay the penalty for sin and give us eternal life, as the Bible clearly says (e.g. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall be made alive?

Concept violated: the divine inspiration of the whole Bible

If the Genesis accounts of Creation, the Fall, the origin of nations, the Flood and the Tower of Babel — the first 11 chapters — are not historical, although they are written as historical narrative and understood by Jesus to be so, what other unfashionable parts of the Bible do you discard? The biblical account of creation in Genesis seems very specific with six days of creative activity, each having an evening and a morning. According to the evolutionary sequence, the biblical order of creation is all wrong. Do you think God should have inspired an account more in keeping with the evolutionary order, the truth as you see it, if indeed He did use evolution or followed the evolutionary pattern in creating everything?

Concept violated: the straightforward understanding of the Word of God

If the Genesis account does not mean what it plainly says, but must be 'interpreted' to fit an evolutionary world, how are we to understand the rest of the Bible? How are we to know that the historical accounts of Jesus' life, death and resurrection should not also be 'reinterpreted'? Indeed, can we know anything for sure if the Bible can be so flexible? Concept violated: the creation is supposed to show the hand of God clearly

Dr Niles Eldredge, well-known evolutionist, said:

'Darwin . . . taught us that we can understand life's history in purely naturalistic terms, without recourse to the supernatural or divine.'1

Is it not philosophically inconsistent to marry God (theism) with evolution (naturalism)? If God 'created' using evolution which makes Him unnecessary, how can God's 'eternal power and divine nature' be 'clearly seen' in creation, as Romans 1:20 says? Evolution has no purpose, no direction, no goal. The God of the Bible is all about purpose. How do you reconcile the purposelessness of evolution with the purposes of God? What does God have to do in an evolutionary world? Is not God an 'unnecessary hypothesis'?

Concept violated: the need of restoration for the creation

If God created over millions of years involving death, the existing earth is not ruined by sin, but is as it always has been — as God supposedly intended it to be. So why then should He want to destroy it and create a new heavens and earth (2 Peter 3 and other places)?

Niles Eldredge, Time Frames — the Rethinking of Darwinian Evolution and the Theory of Punctuated Equilibrium, 1986, Heinemann, London, p. 13.

53 posted on 06/11/2003 5:39:16 PM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Chazal/Jewish sage)
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To: Tamar1973
Well, it is obvious to me that you are a Bible-thumper. I guess discourse with which I may disagree is out of the question.

Have a good night.
54 posted on 06/11/2003 5:42:09 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Tamar1973
You bible thumper you!!

I think you've just been given an incredible compliment!
55 posted on 06/11/2003 5:54:21 PM PDT by BamaGal (Courage is the price life extracts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart)
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To: BamaGal
Even Darwin

I love this "Even Darwin" stuff. Darwin is just a guy, what matters is what happens in the real world.

if no evidence was found to support the theory within 100 years that it should be discarded.

The evidence is quite abundant and accepted by virtually every single scientist alive today.

56 posted on 06/11/2003 6:04:24 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
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To: annyokie
The moth example was NOT a hoax, it was honest scientists giving an honest example of microevolution.

To show what they were talking about, they took 2 dead moths and put them side by side on a tree to show what they were talking about. Creos are the only ones that claim it's a hoax of some sort.
57 posted on 06/11/2003 6:05:23 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: MattAMiller
Not one piece of evidence has ever been found to support evolution. Ever.

Now if you want to do what many anthropologists do and gather scattered bones from a 2 or 3 mile radius and assemble them claiming that they all come from the same person/animal, you could come up with some real doozies to support evolution.
58 posted on 06/11/2003 6:11:52 PM PDT by BamaGal (Courage is the price life extracts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart)
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To: Tamar1973
The biblical account of creation in Genesis seems very specific with six days of creative activity, each having an evening and a morning.

What???

Genesis isn't at all very specific.

In evolution we expect less complex life forms to evolve into more complex ones and thats what we find.

While Genesis can't even get it's story straight. Genesis One and Two directly condradict each other in the order of creation

Genesis 1

Plants-->Animals-->Man & Woman (At the Same time)

Genesis 2

Man -->Plants--> Animals-->Woman

Other flops in Genesis include

Days and evenings were created before the Sun and Moon

The moon gives off it's own light instead of it being reflected sun light

Quote Gen 1.26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image" and Gen 3.22 "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". Well who exactly is "US". It seems Genesis saying there is more than one God. Same in the tower of babel story

59 posted on 06/11/2003 6:16:25 PM PDT by qam1
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To: annyokie
"If your whole faith is built on one exclusive idea, than you cannot therefore accept any variation on that theme."

What variation? Either God created the Earth exactly as described in Genesis or he didn't. I mean heck, homosexual marriage is a variation on the theme of marriage as established by God, am I supposed to accept that as well and good or call it an abomination in the eyes of God? The Bible says it's wrong, but God didn't actually mean all homosexuality is wrong, is that it?

You could use that argument for anything that you didn't agree with in the Bible!! Well, God didn't really mean it that way. It could mean this, or it could mean that. I don't mean to offend any religion but it's getting high time Christians of all faiths start accepting the Bible word for word, and not play it off as stories or allegories for daily life. God made the world, man sinned, Christ came to earth, suffered and died, rose again from the dead, and will come again. Then the world as we know it will end. Period

60 posted on 06/11/2003 6:16:44 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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