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Oldest Human Skulls Found
BBC ^ | 6-11-2003 | Jonathan Amos

Posted on 06/11/2003 8:03:26 AM PDT by blam

Oldest human skulls found

By Jonathan Amos
BBC News Online science staff

Three fossilised skulls unearthed in Ethiopia are said by scientists to be among the most important discoveries ever made in the search for the origin of humans.

Herto skull: Dated at between 160,000 and 154,000 years old (Image copyright: David L. Brill)

The crania of two adults and a child, all dated to be around 160,000 years old, were pulled out of sediments near a village called Herto in the Afar region in the east of the country.

They are described as the oldest known fossils of modern humans, or Homo sapiens.

What excites scientists so much is that the specimens fit neatly with the genetic studies that have suggested this time and part of Africa for the emergence of mankind.

"All the genetics have pointed to a geologically recent origin for humans in Africa - and now we have the fossils," said Professor Tim White, one of the co-leaders on the research team that found the skulls.

"These specimens are critical because they bridge the gap between the earlier more archaic forms in Africa and the fully modern humans that we see 100,000 years ago," the University of California at Berkeley, US, paleoanthropologist told BBC News Online.

Out of Africa

The skulls are not an exact match to those of people living today; they are slightly larger, longer and have more pronounced brow ridges.

These minor but important differences have prompted the US/Ethiopian research team to assign the skulls to a new subspecies of humans called Homo sapiens idaltu (idaltu means "elder" in the local Afar language).

Herto reconstruction: What the ancient people might have looked like (Image copyright: J. Matternes)

The Herto discoveries were hailed on Wednesday by those researchers who have championed the idea that all humans living today come from a population that emerged from Africa within the last 200,000 years.

The proponents of the so-called Out of Africa hypothesis think this late migration of humans supplanted all other human-like species alive around the world at the time - such as the Neanderthals in Europe.

If modern features already existed in Africa 160,000 years ago, they argued, we could not have descended from species like Neanderthals.

"These skulls are fantastic evidence in support of the Out of Africa idea," Professor Chris Stringer, from London's Natural History Museum, told BBC News Online.

"These people were living in the right place and at the right time to be possibly the ancestors of all of us."

Sophisticated behaviour

The skulls were found in fragments, at a fossil-rich site first identified in 1997, in a dry and dusty valley.

Stone tools and the fossil skull of a butchered hippo were the first artefacts to be picked up. Buffalo fossils were later recovered indicating the ancient humans had a meat-rich diet.

The most complete of the adult skulls was seen protruding from the ancient sediment; it had been exposed by heavy rains and partially trampled by herds of cows.

SEARCH FOR HUMAN ORIGINS

The Herto skulls represent a confirmation of the genetic studies

The skull of the child - probably aged six or seven - had been shattered into more than 200 pieces and had to be painstakingly reconstructed.

All the skulls had cut marks indicating they had been de-fleshed in some kind of mortuary practice. The polishing on the skulls, however, suggests this was not simple cannibalism but more probably some kind of ritualistic behaviour.

This type of practice has been recorded in more modern societies, including some in New Guinea, in which the skulls of ancestors are preserved and worshipped.

The Herto skulls may therefore mark the earliest known example of conceptual thinking - the sophisticated behaviour that stands us apart from all other animals.

"This is very possibly the case," Professor White said.

The Ethiopian discoveries are reported in the journal Nature.


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KEYWORDS: adamandeve; bloodbath; creationism; crevolist; darwin; darwinism; ethiopia; evolution; found; godsgravesglyphs; herto; homosapiensidaltu; human; missinglink; oldest; skulls
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To: Consort
I think that the oldest known fossils might be the ones that I alluded to...

Ahhh, semantics. Don't you love it?

Known by whom?

61 posted on 06/11/2003 10:38:03 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: VadeRetro
By the way, contrary to the constant claim of the creationists, Piltdown Man wasn't a fraud created by biologists to prop up the theory of evolution. It was a bogus fossil planted by a crank, who apparently wanted to place his fake "missing link" in England. Genuine evolutionists realized that such a fossil didn't make any sense in the context of all their other evidence. Eventually the hoax was exposed -- by evolutionists. The Piltdown episode, rather than being an embarrassment, actually demonstrates how powerful evolution theory is. It predicts what kind of evidence will be found to exist, and it exposes bogus "evidence."

In reality, Piltdown man was a fraud committed on evolutionists, but not by evolutionists. In a way, it reminds me of the fake and out-of-context quotes that creationists frequently produce.

62 posted on 06/11/2003 10:42:20 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Known by whom?

You and I for starters.

63 posted on 06/11/2003 10:43:29 AM PDT by Consort
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To: far sider
...but that's just nit-picking.

That's what I do best. To the eternal chagrin of many a Freeper.

Sort of like a baboon in grooming mode. Very apropos for the thread, don't you think?


64 posted on 06/11/2003 10:47:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: VadeRetro
Peking Man and Java Man aren't confirmed frauds? I will have to look that up anew and see exactly what the scoop is. If my information is wrong, I will gladly admit as much.
65 posted on 06/11/2003 10:49:28 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: Consort
In an abstract sense, I suppose that's true as well. But I am more of the mind that says its existence cannot be truly known unless it is found. Until then its existence can only be theorized or postulated.
66 posted on 06/11/2003 10:49:53 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: PatrickHenry
Exactly. Piltdown was evidence for the "Out of England" theory of human origins, a very jarring data point. Evolution tells you plenty about what to expect and not to expect.
67 posted on 06/11/2003 10:51:38 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: exmarine
Peking Man and Java Man aren't confirmed frauds? I will have to look that up anew and see exactly what the scoop is. If my information is wrong, I will gladly admit as much.

Not confirmed frauds. The original Peking man fossils were lost during World War II-- the Japanese occupiers stole them from a museum in China, and they have never been recovered, but we have casts and photos made before the war, and they are recognized as genuine. Java Man has been reclassified-- the consensus these days is that he was an Asian variety of Homo Erectus, not a separate species-- but he was not a fraud.

68 posted on 06/11/2003 10:55:29 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: exmarine
Actually, creationists most often try to dismiss Peking and Java Man as either fully ape or fully human. They just can't agree with each other on which it is.
69 posted on 06/11/2003 10:56:36 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: blam
The skulls are not an exact match to those of people living today; they are slightly larger, longer and have more pronounced brow ridges.

"Slightly larger, longer and more pronounced" than the average today, or actually larger, longer and more pronounced than any specimen from any normal population living today?

70 posted on 06/11/2003 11:00:10 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: VadeRetro
"I've been holding out for some kind of synthesis of "Out of Africa" and "multi-regional," but OOA is the one with evidence piling up for it these days."

Yup, I don't care for that..boo.

71 posted on 06/11/2003 11:01:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: PatrickHenry
Piltdown Man was already being criticized by December 1912 for not conforming to evolutionary theory. Creationists, by their rejection of evolutionary theory, cannot use this as an argument for the falsity of Piltdown. Later, radiocarbon dating was used to show that the parts of Piltdown were of differing ages. Creationists, bu their rejectio of radiocarbon dating, cannot use this as an argument for the falsity of Piltdown. In fact, creationists did nothing to expose the Piltdown fraud; this was done through evolutionary theory and through radiocarbon dating.
72 posted on 06/11/2003 11:03:22 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Junior
"Several hundred."

Thanks. I was thinking the same thing. Then we have this one:

Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon Hybrid?

73 posted on 06/11/2003 11:04:25 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
As I try to explain to our creo brethren, holding out too long against the evidentiary tide puts you in Fantasyland no matter how many debating tricks you know. I'm getting close to throwing in the multiregional towel.

(Still wish there was a nuclear DNA study, though.)

74 posted on 06/11/2003 11:07:43 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Doctor Stochastic
In fact, creationists did nothing to expose the Piltdown fraud; this was done through evolutionary theory and through radiocarbon dating.

Therefore Piltdown Man is a glorious triumph for the scientific method generally and for the theory of evolution specifically. However, in a creationist model, or an ID model, Piltdown Man would fit right in without the slightest question.

75 posted on 06/11/2003 11:08:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: exmarine
"Let's see...Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Nebraska Man, Java Man, Lucy, and now Homo Sapien Idaltu. BWAHAHAHAHAHA."

You forgot 9,000 year old Cheddar Man who has a living relative. (see article)

76 posted on 06/11/2003 11:09:41 AM PDT by blam
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To: VadeRetro
I'm getting close to throwing in the multiregional towel.

There's still hope for your "out of Romania" theory.

77 posted on 06/11/2003 11:10:25 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Galling how you guys never forget a flub.
78 posted on 06/11/2003 11:12:54 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Unlike some people around here, those of on the science side usually remember things from one thread to the next.
79 posted on 06/11/2003 11:16:45 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: exmarine
Here is a link to an interesting article on Neanderthal population genetics.
http://www.2think.org/neanderthal.shtml
80 posted on 06/11/2003 11:17:09 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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