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Tablets That May Reveal El Nino Secrets Are Feared Lost In Iraq
Independent (UK) ^ | 6-9-2003 | Ben Russell

Posted on 06/08/2003 4:10:20 PM PDT by blam

Tablets that may reveal El Niño secrets are feared lost in Iraq

By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent
09 June 2003

The secrets of El Niño, one of the most mysterious and destructive weather systems, could be unlocked by hundreds of thousands of ancient clay tablets now feared lost or damaged in the chaos of Iraq.

Researchers believe the tablets, written using a cuneiform text, one of the earliest types of writing, form the world's oldest records of climate change and could give vital clues to understanding El Niño and global warming.

Academics are demanding that ministers act to protect the unique cultural records, which have chronicled agriculture and other areas of everyday life in the Near East for nearly 5,000 years.

The fear is that the tablets and other priceless records are being plundered from sites across the country in the aftermath of war. The tablets record the ancient Akkadian and Sumerian empires, which once dominated the land now divided between Iraq, Iran and Syria. They outline the catastrophic collapse of the city of Ur more than 4,000 years ago. Hundreds of thousands of people are thought to have died in a disastrous series of flash floods and severe droughts that may have lasted up to 30 years.

Dr Richard Grove, research director at the Centre for World Environmental History at the University of Sussex, believes a series of dramatic changes in ocean currents and global winds was responsible for the collapse of the civilisation. His controversial theory suggests that the El Niño he believes contributed to the fall of the Sumerian and Akkadian empires was one of the most severe of the past 5,000 years, and may have vital lessons for climatologists today.

Dr Grove said: "What happened was like a nuclear explosion. The cuneiform tablets of Iraq record in detail the almost complete collapse of pre-industrial agrarian societies due to extreme climate events lasting up to 10 to 20 years and possibly longer."

The tablets, known as the Lamentations of Ur, tell of the city's decline in about 2200BC. Thousands of other clay tablets, many the size of cigarette packets, form an everyday record of tithes paid to temples in the form of grain and livestock. About 80,000 tablets are thought to have survived looting at Baghdad's antiquities museum. But scholars fear thousands more are being plundered around the country.

Some 130,000 tablets are also housed at the British Museum in London. Dr Irving Finkel, of the department of the Near East, said: "We have had alarming reports of tablets being taken out of the ground. The record is very much under threat.

"Nothing is being taken from the Iraqi museum now, but sites around the country are incredibly vulnerable. There is a very urgent need for an authority to crack down on that."

The veteran Labour backbencher Tam Dalyell has raised the fate of the Sumerian archives in the Commons and urged ministers to intervene to protect the tablets from harm.

• The antiquities museum, ransacked by looters as Saddam Hussein's regime crumbled, will reopen next month after many of the treasures feared lost were found stashed in secret vaults around the city.

Donny George, the museum's research director, said yesterday that among the items on show would be the Treasure of Nimrud, a priceless set of golden Assyrian jewellery studded with gems that has been displayed only once, briefly, in the past 3,000 years.

The treasure was recovered last week from flooded vaults below the gutted shell of the city's looted central bank.

Besides the Nimrud artefacts, American investigators also recovered thousands of items from the museum's main exhibition collection last week when employees led them to a secret vault in Baghdad. The items had been taken there for safekeeping before the US-led invasion of Iraq.

American investigators said about 3,000 museum pieces were still missing, mostly not of exhibition quality.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ancienthistory; artifacts; cuneiform; desperation; elnino; epigraphyandlanguage; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; iraq; lamentationsofur; lost; secrets; tablets; treasureofnimrud; ur
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To: blam
Look,anything that Tom Dalyell says should be immediately discounted. The ignorant Marxist Scot Laborite is a fool who, tragically, is suffered gladly by Britain's left wing press.
21 posted on 06/08/2003 5:15:44 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: blam
The secrets of El Niño

There is no secret, El Nino means: Let's twist again like we did last summer"... I thought EVERYONE knew that!

22 posted on 06/08/2003 5:35:48 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: blam
"Dr Grove said: 'What happened was like a nuclear explosion. The cuneiform tablets of Iraq record in detail the almost complete collapse of pre-industrial agrarian societies due to extreme climate events lasting up to 10 to 20 years and possibly longer.'"

Caused by all the CO2 those Sumerians were generating with their inefficient internal-combustion engines, right?

--Boris

23 posted on 06/08/2003 6:20:07 PM PDT by boris
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To: Our man in washington
Well you beat me to it.
24 posted on 06/08/2003 6:20:42 PM PDT by boris
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To: blam
Also on the shattered jar pieces, who shot JFK, The location of the lost cities of Atlantis and El Dorado, The location of Genghis Khan's tomb, the contents of Area 51 and where to find Big Foot.
25 posted on 06/08/2003 6:27:13 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Moonmad27
(I'm betting on the 50)

And those were probably useless shards of pottery that the museum staff put out with the trash.

26 posted on 06/08/2003 6:27:45 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Shooter 2.5
Also on the shattered jar pieces, who shot JFK, The location of the lost cities of Atlantis and El Dorado, The location of Genghis Khan's tomb, the contents of Area 51 and where to find Big Foot.

Not to mention where Jimmy Hoffa's buried, the exact North Pole coordinates of Santa's workshop and the secret sex fantasies of the Loch Ness Monster.

27 posted on 06/08/2003 6:32:38 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: blam
This is ridiculous.

In the American southwest studies done using pack rat nests and bristleconce pine trees have brought to light a weather time line more accurate than Mesopotamian scribes ever kept, a time line that goes back for about 10,000 years.

The bad news is that there have been severe droughts during the past 7,000 years. Some lasted 200 years and resulted in the desertification sweeping into some areas only to sweep out again.

Darn those cave men and their SUV's!

28 posted on 06/08/2003 6:33:15 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: CFC__VRWC
Darn! you know I tried really hard to come up with some more zingers and I couldn't come up with any more.

Thanks. You did a good job.
29 posted on 06/08/2003 6:35:43 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: goody2shooz
"In the American southwest studies done using pack rat nests and bristleconce pine trees have brought to light a weather time line more accurate than Mesopotamian scribes ever kept, a time line that goes back for about 10,000 years."

You are absolutely correct. Tree rings show worldwide catastrophic events at 3195BC, 2354BC, 1628BC, 1159BC and 540AD. (two less events at 207BC and 44BC) Mike Baillie (below) is my guy.

Professor Mike Baillie

30 posted on 06/08/2003 6:40:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: 2sheep; happygrl; IFly4Him; AnnaZ
The tablets record the ancient Akkadian and Sumerian empires, which once dominated the land now divided between Iraq, Iran and Syria. They outline the catastrophic collapse of the city of Ur more than 4,000 years ago. Hundreds of thousands of people are thought to have died in a disastrous series of flash floods and severe droughts that may have lasted up to 30 years.

Dr Richard Grove, research director at the Centre for World Environmental History at the University of Sussex, believes a series of dramatic changes in ocean currents and global winds was responsible for the collapse of the civilisation. His controversial theory suggests that the El Niño* he believes contributed to the fall of the Sumerian and Akkadian empires was one of the most severe of the past 5,000 years, and may have vital lessons for climatologists today.

*[South American fisherman have given this phenomenon the name El Nino, which is Spanish for "The Christ Child," because it comes about the time of the celebration of the birth of the Christ Child-Christmas.] http://kids.earth.nasa.gov/archive/nino/intro.html

Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Who needs to make up a clay tablet crisis. Abram seemed to have a clue.

31 posted on 06/08/2003 6:46:53 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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To: goody2shooz
"The bad news is that there have been severe droughts during the past 7,000 years. Some lasted 200 years and resulted in the desertification sweeping into some areas only to sweep out again."

...and, a few other things too.

Disaster that struck the ancients

A crater in Iraq that was discovered after Saddam drained the swamps that were the homeland of the Marsh Arabs

32 posted on 06/08/2003 6:52:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
is this a bush-bash?

or wha'?
33 posted on 06/08/2003 6:54:40 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: blam
Thanks, blam, to the professor's page. I just love that sort of thing. My all-time favorite book is "Roadcut Geology of Oregon". Sadly it was never a best seller.
34 posted on 06/08/2003 6:57:54 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: goody2shooz
This, Exodus To Arthur, is one of my favorites.
35 posted on 06/08/2003 7:01:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: boris
Carbon dioxide from all those furnaces they used to make clay tablets was the problem. Long-winded scribes did them in.
36 posted on 06/08/2003 7:03:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: visualops
This is absurb. I can't believe something this empty has been published. The entire article is speculating about a speculation of a maybe.

perhaps!

37 posted on 06/08/2003 7:06:33 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Welsh Rabbit
but now because the tablets are lost, humanity is doomed.

Is that where the dims have been getting their talking points?
If it is, no wonder civilization colapsed 3000 years ago!

;-)

38 posted on 06/08/2003 7:10:58 PM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: blam
Wait till they tell us that the clay tablets had warnings about global warming and gas-guzzling SUV's.
39 posted on 06/08/2003 7:25:54 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: StriperSniper
"Is that where the dims have been getting their talking points? If it is, no wonder civilization colapsed 3000 years ago!

Here is why they collapsed.

o Meteor Clue To End Of Middle East Civilisations

40 posted on 06/08/2003 8:10:58 PM PDT by blam
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