Skip to comments.Our growing rift with Europe
Posted on 06/07/2003 1:05:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner JoeEdited on 04/13/2004 2:10:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
THE HANDSHAKES in Evian were polite. The conversations were civil. Unlike the tens of thousands of European demonstrators who took to the streets to protest, none of the presidents or prime ministers at this week's Group of Eight summit in France raised his voice or shouted insults. But the rift between America and "Old Europe'" was evident all the same.
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Why the alienation after America bailed out Europe twice in world wars? You would think that our nation with its historical foundations rooted in the tenets of individual liberties, freedoms and rights would be cheered around the world. But we are not. We are scorned; indeed hated and today, Europe is forced to deal with American hypocritical international interventionalist foreign policy. America's shallow embrace for "peace" around the world is nothing more than a cloak to spread an Empire.
"But that is a lesson the Europeans - despite their experience with Nazism, fascism, and communism - refuse to learn. Which is why the gulf between us is only going to widen." -- article
The reason they cannot learn the lesson is precisely the fact that all three --- Nazism, fascism, and communism --- have been prodiced in Europe. The clouded brain that created those remains clouded.
Nah, it's the decline of Christianity, the inability of differentiate right and wrong, that is behind this: if you cannot see the difference between right and wrong, then there is no wrong, and then there is nothing to fight against.
We are only slightly behind the same wave of moral relativism.
It is hatred of our Republican President which makes the commie Europeans hate us. When Bill Clinton was raining missiles on Serbia, they cheered him on. If we had a Democrat president, the Euro-commies would support everything he did.
If they want to fight the cold war all over again, bring it on!
You don't understand that you are, in fact, supporting the enemy. Let me explain my perspective. In 1947 Harry Truman enacted the National Security Act (NSA). It was formed to ensure adequate defense about America after WW2; it was brought about as a significant method to halt communism. It created the US AirForce; moreover, it created the clandestine agency called the CIA. What transpired was almost dictatorial powers by this agency for and about America's foreign policy ever since. It caused Vietnam, South Korea, Kosovo and Iraq (I won't labor Sudan or Nigeria ... but let's be honest, our nation has infuriated Central America, South America, too). GWBush is just another president that can't control his own government; he is in a long line of literal dummies that can't do anything but sign a piece of paper authorizing the CIA to create more war around the world.
"I'm just smart enough to know who my enemies are, and I'm not interested in joining their side." -- article
Here we have the author implying that the Europeans are too stupid to recognize a threat to western freedom when it blows up half of New York. I submit they are not that conveniently stupid. They see our problems with Islamist terrorists to be largely caused by our support for Israel and therefore largely self inflicted. They are saying in effect, do not endanger us with your scrap in which we deliberatly take no part. They are really afraid that the Arab Israeli conflict will become a world war when the problem would be contained between the parties if the US would not mix in. This is not appeasement as the author suggests but aloofness of a sort.
One can take issue with their position, and to a large degree I do, but the perception remains and drives a wedge between us. But at least the European position is arguable as contrasted to this Mist:
Europe is forced to deal with American hypocritical international interventionalist foreign policy. America's shallow embrace for "peace" around the world is nothing more than a cloak to spread an Empire
Sir, from San Juan Hill to Bagdad America has sought no empire. As Colin Powell said, we asked only for a place to bury our dead. Go sell your Mist to the three thousand children who died every month until Saddam was deposed. Go sell your wares in Afganistan where people can breathe again. Peddle your smarmy crap to the Muslims of Jugoslavia who were not ethnically cleansed. And then bring back the crown and sceptre of our empire as proof of your point.
But don't peddle this Mist here - you won't find a single buyer.
I guess we never should have fought against the global onslaught of International Socialism. You know who else hate the CIA? Communists.
Today, thanks to generations of cold warriors, the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world. With the help of genuine patriots who understand the necessity of global military strength, we will stay that way.
You seem to have a high regard for the abilities of our enemies. Perhaps it is they who have a death wish. Perhaps this is why they find it all too easy to declare themselves against us.
Pre-emption is also a tempting and dangerous basis for foreign policy, especially when this policy run by the Pentagon.
While many fear the U.S. and the thought of pre-emption, it is worth noting that the EU countries are not re-arming in the face of overwhelming US military strength. If they truely felt threatened then the EU, Canada, Japan and so, on would be gutting their welfare programs and putting more into military preparedness. They are not. This tells us something too. They may hate us, but I think they may hate their own weakness as well, but are too selfish or petty to do anything substantive about it.
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