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1 posted on 06/07/2003 7:15:11 AM PDT by leadpencil1
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Time will tell.
2 posted on 06/07/2003 7:24:31 AM PDT by gitmo (What noise annoys a noisy oyster most? A noisy noise annoys a noisy oyster most!)
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o A. Greg Thielmann '72 After earning his bachelor's degree in political science, with honors, A. Greg Thielmann went on to work for then-Congressman John Culver. He studied international affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton, then entered the United States Foreign Service where he has compiled a distinguished service record during a career of 25 years. Although he has filled a variety of assignments, he has been most deeply involved in arms control and security issues. He is currently acting director of the Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Affairs Office in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department.

What do you wanna bet Culver is/was a Dem?

3 posted on 06/07/2003 7:26:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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The Africa claim rested on a purported letter or letters between officials in Iraq and Niger held by European intelligence agencies. The communications are now accepted as forged, and Thielmann said he believed the information on Africa was discounted months before Bush mentioned it.

This whole d*mn thing is sounding more and more like a plot from Twenty Four. Where was Jack Bauer during all of this?

4 posted on 06/07/2003 7:30:32 AM PDT by templar
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. . . Greg Thielmann, who retired last September. . . .

. . . Thielmann was director of the strategic, proliferation and military issues office in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. . . .

. . . Although his office did not directly handle terrorism issues, . . .

What a pathetic article. It's almost as if they wrote a story to justify a headline.

5 posted on 06/07/2003 7:30:55 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: leadpencil1
whatever
6 posted on 06/07/2003 7:39:06 AM PDT by fml
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We need to know the truth about this. Everyone should put aside their pre-conceived notions and demand congress investigate and find the truth. We must demand that the investigation not be a white wash.

It is to everyone's long term best interests to get the truth out and not blindly follow your leader. Remember that history will know the answer with full certainty.

Even loyal Republicans must get in front of this and assure themselves with facts, not with party loyalty of their position or risk hurting the Republican party for a generation. Think back to Watergate. Do you want 10 to 15 years of unchallenged Democratic rule because the public is disgusted with Republicans?

Let us all urge Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairman of the relevant committee, to put aside his party loyalty long enough to determine the truth without bias or white wash.

12 posted on 06/07/2003 7:44:44 AM PDT by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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Now that these people are going to be coming out of the woodwork saying the CIA, Pentagon and the President lied about Iraq and WMD, my question to them is this. Why did you wait so long to raise the red flag? Why didn't you resign in protest? If people truly believed that the whole world was being set up by faulty evidence and lies then you should have said something a lot sooner. Therefore I take all this with a heaping helpful grain of salt.
14 posted on 06/07/2003 7:53:17 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution
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The admisistration should have anticipated this problem and had all the answers read to shoot it down. Many of us here knew that this type of criticism was coming and that the Dems would keep attacking.
20 posted on 06/07/2003 8:02:04 AM PDT by Consort
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The Bush administration distorted intelligence and presented conjecture as evidence to justify a U.S. invasion of Iraq, according to a retired intelligence official who served during the months before the war.

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This appears to be the truth.

22 posted on 06/07/2003 8:25:29 AM PDT by RLK
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Failed Foreign Service Officers are either asked to retire -- or take a job in the State Department's Office of Intelligence and Research. Thielmann chose the latter, and as his graduation from the ultra-Liberal Grinell ('72) would suggest, he continued his losing ways until recent retirement while still in his fifties. Now we can expect a couple of decades of mushthought from this bozo (this article is a reprise of a previous interview he gave to Newsweek) until he goes into that great eternal purgatory where FSO's go -- and no one else.
25 posted on 06/07/2003 8:29:22 AM PDT by gaspar
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Wasn't Salman Pak, the training base with the aircraft fuselage, also a training base for Al Qaeda Hijackers located in Iraq?

How much more operational can you get in Mr. so-called ex-official?

32 posted on 06/07/2003 9:04:08 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (fenceline marine)
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I am so sick of this. No matter what these people's opinions are, they should keep their mouths shut! I don't care who they are, they would not be privy to the information the President of the United States has! This is NOT an attack on free speech, this is about national security. These second guessing, remaining secret so called officials are undermining our security!!! They don't even have the guts to reveal who they are!
33 posted on 06/07/2003 9:07:44 AM PDT by ladyinred
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MEMO TO DEMOCRATS:

The war is over.

America has destroyed your Ally, Saddam in the process.

We have shaken up the entire world AND international terrorism in the process.

Regardless of this petty and unsubstantiated "charge," of "deception" the War is STILL supported by 75% of the American people.

Ergo, in 2004 Dubya will slaughter ANY RAT candidate for President.

36 posted on 06/07/2003 9:37:08 AM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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-Weapons of Mass Destruction ( or Distorsion or Deception? You decide...)--
52 posted on 06/07/2003 4:57:15 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: leadpencil1
Never trust the State Department!
54 posted on 06/08/2003 6:30:23 AM PDT by verity
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