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Is FBI watching what you read?
http://www.zwire.com ^ | May 04, 2003 | By Dylan M. Archilla and Donald M. Kelly

Posted on 05/31/2003 12:14:56 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

Is FBI watching what you read?

Hudson libraries react to 'Patriot Act'

The type of intrigue that usually is the provenance of spy novels and conspiracy theories has irked local librarians.

With the passing of the "Patriot Act" in October of 2001, a month after the Sept. 11 attacks, federal agencies' ability to legally and covertly gather information on citizens has been greatly expanded, including governmental access to what people read from public libraries.

Last week, the Union City Friends of the Library delivered a letter to the office of Rep. Bob Menendez (D-13th Dist.) officially protesting governmental access to what has long been considered private information. The letter also urged the congressman to "co-sponsor the Freedom to Read Protection Act introduced recently by Congressman Bernie Sanders of Vermont."

Joel Barkin, press secretary for Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), in a telephone interview last week, explained the genesis of the Freedom to Read Protection Act. Said Barkin, "We introduced the legislation a little over a month ago. It included 75 bipartisan signatures. The reason we introduced it was that we were approached by many librarians in Vermont. Section 2:15 of the Act affects libraries and booksellers."

The Patriot Act both permits law-enforcement access to library and bookstore records, and forbids the library to disclose to the public such inquiries. It is this last provision that most worries librarians throughout the country.

According to Anthony Squire, vice president of the board of Union City Friends of the Library, "Specifically, section 2:15 of the Partiot Act applies to 'business records.' The government has a very loose definition of this and it allows them to request 'any tangible thing,' which means 'any records.' What makes this a real area of concern is that the government does not have to have probable cause. This directly violates the Fourth Amendment of the Federal Constitution."

According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) web site, "Many parts of this sweeping legislation take away checks on law enforcement and threaten the very rights and freedoms that we are struggling to protect. For example, without a warrant and without probable cause, the FBI now has the power to access your most private medical records, your library records, and your student records... and can prevent anyone from telling you it was done."

Said Anthony Squire, vice president of the Union City Friends of the Library, "The Patriot Act has nothing to do with patriotism. Under the Patriot Act, the definition of 'terrorism' is so broad that literally anything could be construed as 'terrorism.' Let's say you go to a library and take out a book on Timothy McVeigh [the since-executed bomber of the Murrah Federal Building bombing in 1996] and the Oklahoma City bombing, because you just have an interest in it. You could be singled out by the government. This is concerning people."

Also, according to Squire, the Patriot Act was scheduled to be removed from the books at an unspecified future date, but Senator Orrin Hatch has introduced legislation that will make the USA Patriot Act a permanent law. Said Hatch in a statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee, "Despite the dire predictions of some extremist groups, the Patriot Act has not eroded the civil liberties that we hold dear as Americans. On the contrary, the Patriot Act is enabling the Justice Department, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to save American lives and protect what is perhaps the most important civil liberty: the freedom from future terrorist attacks."


In Jersey City

Last year, the Jersey City Public Library formulated a policy regarding patron records, said Cynthia Harris, manager of the New Jersey Room of the Main Branch of the library on Jersey Avenue.

"There are seven points in the staff guidelines for responding to law enforcement officers' requests for access to patron records or library computers," said Harris, adding that any inquiry for library records would need a warrant.

In the seven-point staff instruction list developed by the library, workers are instructed to remain calm and courteous at all times, request and copy credentials from the requesting officer, and contact the library administrators for further instructions. Library officials will notify the library's attorneys.

Library workers are instructed to give the law enforcement officer an instruction packet, which includes a copy of NJSA 18A:73-43.2 (N.J. Confidentiality of Library Record Laws). According to the state law, library records containing names or other details regarding library users are confidential except in cases where the information is required for the operation of the facility, requested by the user, or pursuant to a subpoena issued by a court or court order.

"The library Board of Trustees made this policy on Sept. 10, 2002, almost a year to the day of Sept. 11," said Harris.

In addition, Harris said that the library's data storage system for books being taken out is limited to saving the name of the last person to take out the book.

"If a person takes and book out and returns it, the name of the person who took it out before is erased," said Harris.

Harris added that since the passing of the Patriot Act, no law enforcement officials have requested information from the Jersey City Public Library.

Union City Library Director William Breedlove was effusive in a recent telephone interview when asked about the Patriot Act and its effect on libraries.

Said Breedlove, "We've had no contact with the federal government in our libraries at this point, but our Board of Trustees did meet in March to discuss it, and we voted to put warning signs next to the computers in our libraries. The sign will advise patrons that the library is complying with the U.S.A. Patriot Act and direct them to the desk for further information." Continued Breedlove, "I think it's a violation of the Constitution, pure and simple. I am strongly opposed to it."

Interestingly, while Breedlove states that the Union City library hasn't had any contact with the federal government, the very nature of the 2:15 provision of the Patriot Act means that no one at the library would have any idea that their records were being scanned.

Said Barkin, "While we think that the effort to go after terrorists is necessary, we don't believe it is necessary to infringe on the constitutional rights of American citizens."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: ala; libraries; liebraries; patriotact
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Got the same thing in Canada. DoRight sure would have a rough time with yer deponent. First a left wing socialist, then a sharp turn to the hard right by me. Once subscribed to the Thunderbolt out of Georgia. (By postal subscription) A J.B.Stoner was prominent. Had out Marx's Das Capital. Hitler's Mein Kampf in my wanderings.

Latest withdrawals from Library are the Torah (Only the five scriptures though). I managed to get the Koran as well. Taking the middle ground, as a Freeper. A great thing to KNOW much more about the subject first, whatever ones views.

Heresy here. The only thing to fear, is fear itself. The bigger the implied intimidation ,the easier it is for the left to manipulate.

First Amendment rules.

21 posted on 05/31/2003 2:45:41 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: WaterDragon
These same librarians fight equally hard to make pornography available to children in public-paid-for libraries

Most libraries, perhaps. However, at our little rural library, the kind ladies don't put up with any of that nonsense. I found a book in the children's section that had really objectionable language and content. I took it up to the counter and asked if it was mislabeled.

The librarian took one look and said this trash didn't even belong in the adult section. She checked it out to herself and stuck in the cabinet with several other trashy books. "I just keep forgetting to return these...." She latched the cabinet back up and went back to work.

I just love life in a small town!

22 posted on 05/31/2003 2:53:44 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
If they're watching what *I* read, they're pretty darn bored.
23 posted on 05/31/2003 2:55:17 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: myprecious
I'm going to move!!!!!!!
24 posted on 05/31/2003 2:56:33 PM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of immigrants.)
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To: org.whodat
"PUBLIC, means just that, the library belongs to everyone and therefore the papers are a matter of public record."

No, that is not true. Absent a state Freedom of Information Act provision that allow it, you, a member of the "Public," have no right to examine their records.

Similary the state/city library, has the right to damand a warrant before it forks over any of its records to a federal investigator.
25 posted on 05/31/2003 2:57:12 PM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: DPB101
I know of a couple of murder cases where the reading of certain books played heavily in the case, as the Scott Peterson case has the issue of what he was looking up on the web as it related to his 'fishing trip.' If an Arab wants to check out books on how to make bombs, I hope the librarian drops a dime on him.
26 posted on 05/31/2003 3:02:25 PM PDT by RJayneJ (To nominate a Quote of the Day rjaynej@freerepublic.com or put my screen name in the To: line.)
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To: org.whodat
This is BS, and I think the word, PUBLIC, means just that, the library belongs to everyone and therefore the papers are a matter of public record.

Have you ever been treated in a state or municipal hospital? If so, may I have your medical records? Your position on libraries may indicate an undiagnosed disorder.

27 posted on 05/31/2003 5:11:36 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
Congratulations. You have just justified Roe vs. Wade in a completely new way (no need for penumbras here). As follows:

(1) Anything not specifically identified and limited in the Constitution is a right retained by the people.
(2) A woman has a right to do whatever she wants to with her body, including abort her fetus (baby), since this is neither identified by nor limited by the Constitution.

Therefore, by the fact that the Constitution did not specifically limit it, the right is therefore justified by the Constitution. Theoretically.

28 posted on 05/31/2003 5:50:08 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: dark_lord
Both the "penumbra" and the misinterpretation of English Common Law are massive botches in Roe v. Wade.

Unlike what consenting adults do, an abortion kills a foetus, which is a life that cannot protect itself, which makes it the legitimate object of state protection.


29 posted on 05/31/2003 6:40:03 PM PDT by eno_
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To: DPB101
Since at least 1980 the left has told us that the government has been doing all of this spying on citizens. If I have been spied on for this long, exactly what am I supposed to be worried about now?
30 posted on 05/31/2003 6:43:38 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Is FBI watching what you read?

Does it matter? If they are, they'll get a charge out of some of the titles of books I read--classified as "Purple Passion" genre.
31 posted on 05/31/2003 8:07:46 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: dark_lord
Alan Keyes reminds us that abortion is referred to in the preamble of our incredible Constitution.....We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense......and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and "OUR POSTERITY", do ordain and.....
32 posted on 05/31/2003 8:38:49 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: HISSKGB
If I have been spied on for this long, exactly what am I supposed to be worried about now?

lol...the left throws up all this smoke to hide their picking of your pocket and the destruction of your neighborhood. Never mind the crooks running where you live. Ashcroft is the problem! The Patriot Act is gonna get you!

33 posted on 05/31/2003 8:53:35 PM PDT by DPB101 (Support H.R. 1305 to cut the Federal tax on beer in half)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
If an individual follows you around, videotaping and photographing you at will; this can be construded as 'stalking'.

If YOU, however, are imaged by a multitude of 'public' video cameras, so that YOUR moves from point A to B to C... can be strung together, what shall THIS be called?
34 posted on 06/01/2003 5:17:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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To: Elsie
 
Atlas Reverse Dictionary Rhyming Dictionary Dictionary Thesaurus Merriam-Webster Unabridged

One entry found for surveillance.
Main Entry: sur·veil·lance
Pronunciation: s&r-'vA-l&n(t)s also -'vAl-y&n(t)s or -'vA-&n(t)s
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from surveiller to watch over, from sur- + veiller to watch, from Latin vigilare, from vigil watchful -- more at VIGIL
Date: 1802
: close watch kept over someone or something (as by a detective); also : SUPERVISION

35 posted on 06/01/2003 5:21:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you read - ESPECIALLY *** ones)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
That one has been extensively litigated and it is uniformly held that those records are the business records of the bank and not the depositor.


Oh yeah. You're right. But its still wrong. ;-)
36 posted on 06/01/2003 5:42:33 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Support Our Troops! Screw France.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
But we are forgetting something. Crooks DO NOT GOT TO THE PUBLIC LIBARY TO GET BOOKS. They go to the internet to get thier information. Also public libaries are public instutions, so thier records are public record. If they were private libaries then I would have to go with the privacy issue.

BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T FEEL THREATEND, DOESEN'T MEAN THAT YOU AREN'T!
37 posted on 06/01/2003 5:55:00 AM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!])
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
They read everything posted on this forum, especially since the Homeland Security was set up.
38 posted on 06/01/2003 5:57:00 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: DPB101
The destruction of inner cities has been ennabled by this sort of leftie ABA rationale. Not too long ago the NYC police commissioner revealed in a interview that his policemen were forbidden by NY edict to turn the names of arrested, illegal felons to the INS. The left, the ABA and the ACLU are more interested in allowing felons loose in communities than protecting the rights of normal citizens. The result is that too many felons have freedom while the inner-city innocent cower in their locked up homes.
39 posted on 06/01/2003 6:07:45 AM PDT by HISSKGB
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