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Jerry Vines...has said the prophet Muhammad, the founder of Islam, was "a demon-possessed pedophile."

Bwaaaaaaahhhaaaahhh!!!
Well, what is the truth?
Is Vines right?


1 posted on 05/29/2003 7:35:41 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
What part of "Go into all the world...." doesn't Walter Brueggemann {apostate Bible scholar} understand?
2 posted on 05/29/2003 7:44:10 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: ppaul
My experience is that it is largely a lost cause with cultural muslims. Iraq is an interesting mixture though. There's certainly plenty of "missionary" work to do right here in our own backyard. I salute those who would sacrifice all to try to save some in Iraq.
4 posted on 05/29/2003 7:50:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ppaul
You can't help these people by going along with the lies they've always believed! Wake up. What earthly 'good' has their 'faith' done to release their giftings, their idealism and their God Given callings?
5 posted on 05/29/2003 7:51:41 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: ppaul
A man convinced against his will ..is of the same opinion still....Burma Shave

You cannot convert someone...to Christ..you can offer what you have but unless the Holy Spirit himself awakens the soul...no conversion will take place..

Jesus once said that "My sheep hear my voice.." and that those the Father had given into His hand will not be lost..and that no man can snatch them out of His hand...

It is right and fit that Americans minister to Iraqis for the Lord Himself said that in the Kingdom of God many will come from distant lands and sit at the Lambs supper...from all cultures from all walks of life..from every religous group...people will be converted by the Holy Spirit..

Those who are able to listen will ...and those who arent wont...no one can be converted against his will to Christianity...

A forced conversion at gun, knive, rape,slavery, or bomb point ...is for "other" religions...
6 posted on 05/29/2003 7:58:05 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: ppaul
Should Christians Attempt to Convert Iraqi Muslims?

Of course.

7 posted on 05/29/2003 7:59:18 PM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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To: ppaul
Great move. Tell the Iraqi people we're not at war with them or their religion. Then we win the war and send in Christian missionaries to show how good our word really was. If Christianity (or any religion other than Islam) is to take root in Iraq, it will be when freedom of speech, freedom of religion and other basic rights have been firmly established. Until that happens, there's no sense trying to convert anybody, you just end up creating a lot of bitterness, and a lot of Christian Martyrs.
10 posted on 05/29/2003 8:02:32 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: ppaul
No one can be made a Christian. There has to be first the desire. Kindness from the heart sets the example and leads the way.

Ol' Mo, well he ain't got any.

12 posted on 05/29/2003 8:08:48 PM PDT by stboz
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To: ppaul
Should Christians Attempt to Convert Iraqi Muslims?

Yes, if the Christians believe it is their Calling to do so.

But it is not incumbent upon the USA to stand between those Christians and their probable martyrdom.

15 posted on 05/29/2003 8:25:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Soddom has left the bunker.)
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To: ppaul
Yes...he's right.
17 posted on 05/29/2003 8:49:17 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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Of course we should seek to convert Muslims...as we'd convert anyone else. Only we go armed with the Bible, not machetes and bombs.
18 posted on 05/29/2003 8:50:12 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ppaul
Should Christians Attempt to Convert Iraqi Muslims?
Yes, it's the only way they'll get to heaven.
104 votes (35%)
No, it's arrogant to presume Christianity is preferable to Islam.
56 votes (19%)
Christians should offer humanitarian assistance, not preaching.
98 votes (33%)
None of the above and I'll tell you why.
38 votes (13%)


As you can see, this poll is rigged in favor of some agenda, not Christianity. And there is no place to say why unless you join the chat room.
19 posted on 05/29/2003 8:53:08 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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Should Christians Attempt to Convert Iraqi Muslims?

Given that Christianity is an evangelical faith the answer should be obvious.
21 posted on 05/29/2003 9:11:25 PM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: ppaul
The penalty for converting to any other faith is death. A fatwa is issued and the guy's dead meat. There will always be conflict and I believe this because there always HAS been conflict, but most Americans know so little about world history and religions that they cannot understand the enemy or his motivations.

I would rather live in a Christian world than any other. Christians have to learn how to take back all that has been stolen over the centuries.

22 posted on 05/29/2003 9:13:54 PM PDT by Darheel (Visit the strange and wonderful.)
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To: ppaul
I voted.
23 posted on 05/29/2003 9:16:26 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: ppaul
I cannot agree that Mohammed was a demon posessed pedophile. I lack belief in demons, so I can only agree that he was a pedophile with ruthless and violent amibition.
27 posted on 05/31/2003 1:00:14 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: ppaul
It is not a matter of should but a matter of must.
29 posted on 05/31/2003 11:52:41 AM PDT by RMrattlesnake
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Instead of sending in an army of missionaries, why not help native Iraqi Christians evangelize their own countrymen? Any missionary effort in Iraq should be led by the Iarqi Church.
34 posted on 06/01/2003 12:03:30 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: ppaul; RMrattlesnake
RMRattlesnake took the words out of my mouth. God commanded us to go therefore and teach all nations in Matthew 28: 19-20. To not send missionaries to Iraq would be disobedience.
38 posted on 06/02/2003 6:38:28 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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