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Bush Ban on Chinese Imports
www.newsmax.com ^ | May 28, 2003 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 05/27/2003 2:17:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Chinese Arms Maker Gets Cut

The Bush administration has just imposed a two-year ban on imports from Chinese arms maker NORINCO (China North Industries). According to U.S. defense intelligence sources, President Bush imposed the restrictions personally.

The move is welcomed in national security and human rights circles but viewed with great displeasure in the boardrooms of Wal-Mart and Kmart.

"The China Support Network (CSN) commends the Bush administration in taking this strong measure in imposing stiff economic sanctions on PLA-controlled NORINCO," stated CSN spokesman David Chu.

CSN is an affiliation of human rights and national security experts who advocate a ban on all imports from China.

"CSN sees this as an important first step in checking the global ambitions of Communist China, which is not only hegemony in Asia, but around the world," noted Chu.

NORINCO's role as arms maker for the PLA is well known. NORINCO manufactures ballistic missiles, artillery, machine guns, tanks, lasers, radars, surface-to-air missiles, ammunition and land mines, to name a few.

NORINCO also makes a wide variety of household products sold in retails stores in America. These products include tools, toys, bikes and ceramics.

NORINCO Chinese Army Inc.

The U.S. public knows little about how NORINCO finances its arms production, however. The fundamental principles of Chinese strategy are embodied in two People’s Liberation Army (PLA) terms for national defense. Junzhuanmin is the turning over of military resources to civilians for civilian use, and junmin jieje is the integration of the military and civilian.

Both terms refer to the combination of military and civilian resources such as airports, seaports, roads and communications.

However, Junzhuanmin and junmin jieje also translate into a conversion that is reversible, with each resource having a dual function – military and civilian. This twin-track policy has resulted in increased budgets for the Chinese army, advanced technology for modern weapons and a strengthening of the Chinese military-industrial complex.

According to a Commerce Department document on Chinese military defense industries, the PLA strategy is an economic war against America.

"[Chinese] Civilian resources should be transferable to military industries for weapons production," states the document, titled "Swords Into Market Shares," which was forced from the Clinton administration by a Freedom of Information lawsuit.

"This is not only to prepare for war, but also to use trading firms such as NORINCO (China North Industries Corporation) and China Great Wall Industry Corporation to acquire foreign technologies, such as electronics, for military as well as economic modernization."

Slave Labor Camps

The Bush move to ban all imports from NORINCO will hurt China. NORINCO does an estimated $100 million in business in the West each year, selling everything from small arms to toys.

The low-cost Chinese products are a result of low-cost labor. In the labor market, PLA-owned NORINCO does have an advantage over most U.S. corporations.

"The Communist Chinese are using tens of millions in thousands of Laogai slave concentration camps in Communist China to fuel this trade deficit, just as Nazi Germany did in WW II," stated David Chu of the China Support Network.

"They are using the hard currency from the trade deficits with America to buy the latest military weapons from Russia, such as the Sunburn cruise missile and the Shkval 'rocket' torpedoes – weapons primarily designed to kill U.S. aircraft carriers and submarines."

The Bush move is the first time in a decade that the U.S. has actually imposed such strict sanctions against a Chinese company. NORINCO has had a long history of bad corporate behavior in the West.

NORINCO frequently confronted the Clinton administration in a number of arms scandals, including attempts to sell Chinese-made machine guns to U.S. drug dealers.

Clinton Dummy Commerce Department

While NORINCO was very well known inside the Clinton White House, Clinton's front office for advanced military exports to China, the Commerce Department, claimed to know little about the multibillion-dollar arms giant.

In 1996, Clinton transferred export oversight to the inept and ill-equipped Commerce Department. President Clinton signed the executive order that ended 40 years of legislation designed to prevent war. The transfer also forced the paper trail for military exports to China to now end at the Commerce Department instead of at the Oval Office.

In 1997, after the transfer of authority by Clinton, Commerce Department officials in Beijing clearly stated they did not track Chinese army-owned companies. Thus, the only U.S. government agency with the legal authority to stop exports had no idea what to do.

"One of the largest PLA-affiliated firms is NORINCO," states a 1997 e-mail from Commerce official Robert Bannerman in Beijing.

"Nothing is these databases indicated its affiliation. We do not maintain a formal FCS all-encompassing computer database of Chinese companies. ..."

According to a 1997 Rand Corporation report, NORINCO plays a key role in the global arms market. In fact, the main reason why the Bush administration imposed the severe penalties on NORINCO was for its unrestricted sales of ballistic missile technology to Iran.

John Huang and NORINCO

In contrast, the Clinton administration paid little attention to NORINCO arms sales to the Middle East. However, there was one member of the Clinton team who seemed to be keenly aware of NORINCO sales attempts.

According to documents discovered in the offices of convicted Chinagate figure John Huang, NORINCO wanted to sell artillery to Kuwait. In 1995, Kuwait allocated $1.3 billion to upgrade its field artillery. Included in this new program was an intense competition between U.S.-based United Defense and NORINCO for the contract.

The documents in Huang's files note that there was "heavy pressure from the Chinese Government" on Kuwait "to select NORINCO."

Huang's file on the Kuwaiti howitzer purchase also contains detailed weapon information of great value to the Chinese military.

"China also remains the only member of the UN Security Council that has not been awarded a large military contract from Kuwait. It is understood that the Chinese are pressing this issue with the Kuwait Government," notes the Commerce document from Huang's files.

"The Chinese offer is of particular concern in that its howitzer has been recently modernized and configured to NATO standards for ammunition interoperability," states the document from Huang's office.

Why would John Huang, ex-Lippo banker and DNC fund-raiser, follow NORINCO artillery sales from his Commerce Department office?

John Huang invoked his Fifth Amendment rights over 2,000 times when asked under oath if he was an agent of the Chinese army.

NORINCO Friends

It is a fact that NORINCO sells its weapons to a wide variety of nations. In 1998, U.S. intelligence satellites tracked a Chinese freighter bound for Pakistan that contained a load of NORINCO-made anti-tank missiles.

Information published in the Pakistan Observer on June 23, 1998, noted that China also transferred a large number of depleted uranium tank shells designed for the Pakistani armored forces. NORINCO made the shells with help from the China National Nuclear Corp., which supplied the uranium.

Pakistan has recently upgraded its Type-59s with night vision, stabilized guns and laser range finders, and some have received a heavier 115 mm smooth-bore Chinese gun. NORINCO supplied the new systems.

The Clinton administration even sought to help NORINCO. According to Commerce Department documents, the Clinton administration approved the export of blade cutters and molds for a NORINCO artillery-fuse production facility.

"When will Americans wake up to stop this insane 'blood transfusion' that we are providing to Communist China?" asked CSN's David Chu.

"When will Americans realize that history repeats itself?" warned Chu.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arms; ban; bang; banglist; china; imports; norinco; xiong
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1 posted on 05/27/2003 2:17:10 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
No great loss. Norinco SKSs are junk, made from stamped parts. I got rid of mine and got a Russian model with milled parts. A much better gun.
2 posted on 05/27/2003 2:19:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is going to cut into a lot of gunsmiths' business

Most of Norinco's stuff is unreliable junk

3 posted on 05/27/2003 2:20:55 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
Norinco Ping!

Semper Fi
4 posted on 05/27/2003 2:22:34 PM PDT by dd5339 (Lookout Texas, here we come!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
...JOHN HUANG's Boss =
...JAMES RIADY...!!!

"The Democrat Party has not returned on single nichel that I gave it" =

...stated JAMES RIADY at his own CHINA-GATE Plea-Agreement Federal Court Hearing in which he walked out a Free Man despite everyting he did against our National Security.
5 posted on 05/27/2003 2:27:20 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com..)
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To: dd5339
This is great news!

Little by little GW is getting the right stuff done.
6 posted on 05/27/2003 2:28:30 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Wasn't the Commerce Sec killed in a plane crash in Yugoslavia? I wonder what he knew about this.
7 posted on 05/27/2003 2:30:22 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Ford Fairlane
Most of Norinco's stuff is unreliable junk

I rented one of their semi-autos at a gun range once. It jammed a lot.

8 posted on 05/27/2003 2:32:14 PM PDT by snarkpup
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The Communist Chinese are using tens of millions in thousands of Laogai slave concentration camps in Communist China to fuel this trade deficit, just as Nazi Germany did in WW II," stated David Chu of the China Support Network.

People should pay attention to this before getting into bed with China -- this includes good guys like Mitch McConnell as well as the Demoslime.

Personally I'm not real happy about Catholic priests being snatched up by the government, tortured, and executed. Seems to me that qualifies as a human rights violation.

9 posted on 05/27/2003 2:36:21 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (My man-hammer has not clubbed a single baby seal)
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To: JohnnyZ
No more SKS's? Do they even make the SKS anymore?
10 posted on 05/27/2003 2:40:29 PM PDT by NYFriend
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Interestingly, this ban directly aids Ruger, the largest American Firearms manufacturer. The SKS was a direct(albeit cheaper and generally lower quality) competitor of the Mini 30, and I believe that Ruger dominates the mid-price quality auto-loading handgun market (P9x series) that would be in competition with Norinco's knock-off handguns.

Perhaps two goals are being served here:

  1. Cutting off a supply of hard currency to the ChiCom arms industry
  2. Providing economic protection for the US firearms industry

I wouldn't worry to much about WalMart - they probably sell vastly more Rugers, Remingtons, and Marlins than Norincos. It is a sign though that at least one source of campaign contributions to the DNC is being cut off.

11 posted on 05/27/2003 2:41:34 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thats the truth. I need to use a hammer just to get my Mak 90 to accept a magazine.
12 posted on 05/27/2003 2:43:31 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: jscd3
I wouldn't worry to much about WalMart

Why is a company which says that it is proud to be a part of smalltown America trying to finance the defense industries of Red China? Buying plastic crap from the ChiComs is one thing, but supporting the maker of weapons that may be used in Third World killings of Americans is wholly another. Wal-Mart could use a week-long boycott by small town Americans just to protest.

13 posted on 05/27/2003 2:52:33 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Focusing on one company, Norinco, is a diversion by the United States.

Norinco is State owned, therefor the sanctions should be against the State, that is China!

Communism sucks and American companies that fill their shelves with communist made products suck.

What an insult for Korean war veterans who fought the Chi-comms and then had to watch American jobs leave this country for theirs.

What it says about America is: we will sell our souls and the Constitution for a discounted price on a purchase.

14 posted on 05/27/2003 2:54:52 PM PDT by fightu4it
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To: George from New England
Now he needs to get serious about his judicial appointments.
15 posted on 05/27/2003 2:57:17 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: snarkpup
Yea, that was deep in controversy as well, I heard a report that a doctor doing the autopsy said, Ron Brown had a 45 caliber hole in his head, too perfect to be from the crash. Then suddenly no more news.
16 posted on 05/27/2003 3:01:33 PM PDT by holyh2o (Need a new reality? Jesus has one ready for you!!!!)
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To: NYFriend
No...but people fall for the ol "preban" gimmick and still buy them, buy a Russia, Romanian, or a Yugo. Tickle me Norinco makes Shotguns and pistol knock-offs, there are still some of their M-14 clones floating around too.
17 posted on 05/27/2003 3:06:47 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: amom; Alamo-Girl; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; SAMWolf; Dubya; Jeff Head
Thought you might be interested in seeing this...
18 posted on 05/27/2003 3:33:10 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Joe Boucher
My email to W:

Dear President Bush, With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)

I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well

I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.

But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.

I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.

Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.

Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.


19 posted on 05/27/2003 3:38:35 PM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Everything they make is junk.
Having the terrorists of the world armed by NORINCO is a big plus.

So9

20 posted on 05/27/2003 3:45:44 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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