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Utah seeks gunmen for 2 scheduled executions - white supremacist, serial killer chose firing squad
Associated Press ^
| May 23, 2003
| Associated Press Staff
Posted on 05/23/2003 4:45:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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Ugly.
In 1992, Mr. Arguelles abducted and strangled Margo Bond, a janitor at a junior high school where he had been hunting for teenage victims. He also kidnapped, sexually assaulted and killed two girls, ages 13 and 15, and stabbed a 16-year-old girl more than 40 times. He was sentenced to death in 1997. Mr. Arguelles has repeatedly said he wants to die.
Mr. Kell was convicted in 1996 of killing a black man, Lonnie Blackmon, at the Utah State Prison. Mr. Kell, serving time for a previous murder, stabbed Mr. Blackmon 67 times with a homemade knife in 1994. A prison videotape shows Mr. Kell shouting, "White power!" during the attack.
To: MeeknMing
It's too bad that a criminal has to do something this blatant to get the firing squad. There's a whole bunch of child molesters that should be getting the blindfold and cigarette, too.
To: MeeknMing
No kidding! - I bet they never guessed someone would choose this! Prediction: It'll never happen.
To: MeeknMing
Utah's use of firing squads predates statehood in 1896 and is a remnant of the early Mormon belief that bloodshed is a required punishment for taking a life,...A pity a killer can't be executed by the same means he used to kill his victims.
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posted on
05/23/2003 4:51:08 PM PDT
by
templar
To: MeeknMing
These guys must be innocent,
neither has "Wayne" for a middle name.
To: MeeknMing
I don't see anything inappropriate about this. It says they're taking volunteers from the towns of the crime and that there will be one blank so no one will know who did it. I would imagine that if they're taking volunteers from the towns of the crime that one blank would not be necesary. I understand the concept, but given the crime description I don't think I'd need it.
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posted on
05/23/2003 4:57:41 PM PDT
by
Wneighbor
(aka Mrs. Field)
To: HairOfTheDog
I bet they never guessed someone would choose this! Prediction: It'll never happen.This subject was posted earlier. Sure "it" will happen. I will say again that many people would choose a firing squad over lethal injection if they had the option. Outside in fresh air as opposed to being strapped down to a table in some small room? it's a slam-dunk.
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posted on
05/23/2003 5:00:09 PM PDT
by
toddst
To: toddst
Huh... I will be surprised if it happens.... I can't imagine it won't be argued in court as too brutal by today's standards.
For example, we have a guy still alive on death row up here in WA because in WA, if a guy chooses *not* to choose, he is hung, and he is so fat, they are afraid his head will come off. For some reason, that is a problem.
To: MeeknMing
Utah seeks gunmen for 2 scheduled executionsI'll commute from NJ.
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posted on
05/23/2003 5:07:52 PM PDT
by
Focault's Pendulum
(Living under a rock is looking better every day.)
To: HairOfTheDog
If I remember right the Firing Squad was the humane method, in Utah, as opposed to hanging, that was the choise when I was a kid. the volunteers were polled from the juror list.
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posted on
05/23/2003 5:11:08 PM PDT
by
Little Bill
(No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
To: MeeknMing
Proof of media bias? How about "gunman?" Where did that word come from? Doesn't it so clearly and unambiguously tell you where the AP and newspapers stand on the issue? Jayson Blair is still with us! The media is still tilting to the extreme left.
This is why we must seize back our language and not allow the left-wing media, by default, to control the language agenda. "Gunman" is a loaded word that conveys significant meaning. It should be protested as extremely biased. Utah is looking for members of a firing squad. Utah NEVER said "gunman" and some leftist sleaze reporter slipped that in.
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posted on
05/23/2003 5:21:50 PM PDT
by
Tacis
To: MeeknMing; Tacis
White supremacist, serial killer chose firing squad
Notice how the media's been headlining this story: like being a white supremacist places someone in the same league as a serial killer and rapist.
To: HairOfTheDog
... I will be surprised if it happens.... I can't imagine it won't be argued in court as too brutal by today's standards.Nope, other than attorneys argue on everything. However, if I understand correctly these slugs chose a firing squad. I would do the same. Definitely preferred to the supposedly "humane" lethal injection.
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posted on
05/23/2003 5:57:29 PM PDT
by
toddst
To: HairOfTheDog; yall
Prediction: It'll never happen. I'm not familiar with Utah cases. You may be right. If they did this in Texas, they're goners for sure !!
Loggin' out for the night. Be back here later tomorrow ! G'night folks !
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posted on
05/23/2003 6:44:37 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
To: MeeknMing
I was in Salt Lake visiting when Gilmore got his. I woke up early to drive down to the prison that day. The radio said it was being delayed again. I turned around and drove back to the house. When I got back, I heard that Gary Gilmore had been executed.
As I recall somebody was selling Tshirts out front of the prison that day that had a bullseye on it and about twenty holes in it.
For God, for country, for Margo and Lonnie and the unnamed girls, count me in. I'm not sure that I'm that good a shot anymore. One thing I am, is persistant. I'll bring some extra ammo just in case. You don't think they'd have a metal detector if you were doing the shooting would they?
To: Wneighbor
The one blank thing is BS, if I'm firing a rifle, the one with the blank will have almost no recoil (only from the gases ejected from the muzzle, very little mass)
If I remember correctly during Gilmore, they use 30-06 rifles. Believe me, the live rounds will generate a noticeable recoil. If you watched someone firing a blank vs the real round you could see the difference.
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posted on
05/23/2003 7:50:07 PM PDT
by
E.Allen
To: John Beresford Tipton
These guys must be innocent, neither has "Wayne" for a middle name. Or "Ray".
And the prison is bracing for large crowds of protesters.
Sounds like a party. BYOSG (Bring Your Own Squirt Gun...to extinguish the candles, of course.)
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posted on
05/23/2003 7:51:09 PM PDT
by
randog
(It's always darkest before the dawn--a good time to steal the neighbor's newspaper.)
To: MeeknMing
Put the two murderers in a locked room, blindfold them and give them each a gun. To win, the other guy must be dead.
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posted on
05/23/2003 8:39:02 PM PDT
by
skr
To: E.Allen
The one blank thing is BS, if I'm firing a rifle, the one with the blank will have almost no recoil (only from the gases ejected from the muzzle, very little mass) And still, don't you think there are enough people actually willing to do this that there is no need of that worry? That is a bunch of feel-good emotional stuff IMO.
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posted on
05/23/2003 8:40:13 PM PDT
by
Wneighbor
(aka Mrs. Field)
To: Wneighbor
Choice of menu of a last meal yes, but nothing else. I feel it is wrong that they get to choose the method. Didn't read all the post, sorry if this is a repeat.
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