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Annika Meets the Boys at Colonial [Finishes Day +1]
CBS Sports/USA Network and PGA.com ^ | May 22, 2003 | Jim Nantz

Posted on 05/22/2003 6:33:00 AM PDT by ewing

LPGA player Annika Sorenstam will be teeing off shortly in a men's PGA event at the Colonial Country Club [the first time in 60 years this has happened]

Live shot for shot coverage as long as she is in contention to make the cut on USA Networks, PGA Radio is free today for those cubicle bound and wanting live update (link included)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: annika; genderequity; gendershowboating; insecuremales; lpga; misogynists; pga; selfesteem; stuartsmalling
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To: Protagoras
If a PGA player consistently makes 25 foot puts (over 50%), that player, assuming he is on the green in regulation, will be player and money won leader of the year. From 25 feet I would guess 1/3 would be above average.
721 posted on 05/22/2003 10:49:08 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: GallopingGhost
I don't know where you get your impression from but if you miss a lot of six foot putts you aren't tour material.

I agree, but you claimed a six footer is a "gimme". Not true.

You don't average 27 putts per round unless you are hitting from 20 feet or better.

That just isn't the case. The way pros average 27 per round is by placing their approach shots close to the pin.

722 posted on 05/22/2003 10:49:18 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: GallopingGhost
There is no way in the world that the cut will be at 70.

No possibility.

NONE!!!!!

723 posted on 05/22/2003 10:49:38 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Annika 1, Martha Jerk 0)
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To: jwalsh07
Annika is doing well. Good for her ... but bad for the LPGA. Think what it would mean if Tiger 'moved up' to a perceived 'more difficult' league.

BTW, I equate what Annika is doing as about the same as Cory Pavin hanging in there with the long hitting pros. He even won, on occasion. Could still win on occasion.

724 posted on 05/22/2003 10:49:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: dwilli
From 25 feet I would guess 1/3 would be above average.

Are you saying one third of the twenty five footers are sunk? If so, I think you are way high.

725 posted on 05/22/2003 10:49:45 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: NittanyLion
The way pros average 27 per round is by placing their approach shots close to the pin

Or missing a lot of greens and being a good chipper.

726 posted on 05/22/2003 10:50:22 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Or missing a lot of greens and being a good chipper.

Exactly.

727 posted on 05/22/2003 10:51:09 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: presidio9
Plus, this is one of the shortest courses on the tour. Because of this, and the fact that the tournament committee tricks up the course some so it will play harder and not be a give away to long the hitters, I expected here to do okay, end up right around the cut. But, if she played regularly, many of the other tournaments would be problematic.
728 posted on 05/22/2003 10:51:15 AM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: MHGinTN
BTW, I equate what Annika is doing as about the same as Cory Pavin hanging in there with the long hitting pros. He even won, on occasion. Could still win on occasion.

Yep, very similar.

729 posted on 05/22/2003 10:51:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: Protagoras
Not to mention the fact that if Annika makes the cut and actually plays more PGA events, she'll pull in a ton of female viewers and the entire tour will benefit.

Some of the people posting on this thread have myopia to such an extent that they can legally check the "blind" box on their 1040.
730 posted on 05/22/2003 10:51:55 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Annika 1, Martha Jerk 0)
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To: MHGinTN
Yeah Marvin, you've got it about right. Pavin has won here and Price won last year and once before.

I am gfoing to be interested in seeing how much Annika really wants to challenge her game. What I'm seeing here is that she can run with the big cats but not at the front of the pack.

But she is a helluva golfer.

731 posted on 05/22/2003 10:52:23 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: NittanyLion
I don't know where you get your impression from but if you miss a lot of six foot putts you aren't tour material. I agree, but you claimed a six footer is a "gimme". Not true. You don't average 27 putts per round unless you are hitting from 20 feet or better. That just isn't the case. The way pros average 27 per round is by placing their approach shots close to the pin.

I would agree the guys who are putting in th 27-28 area are knocking a lot of stiff irons but you still have to be able to make some putts. From 6 feet you have to be almost automatic. I can tell you that television really distorts the lenght of the put. 20 feet just isn't that far from the pin.

732 posted on 05/22/2003 10:53:00 AM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: Richard Kimball
I'm not ready to say she should be on the tour. This is a short course that favors accuracy on tees and drives. She's known for her accuracy on tees and drives. Most of the other courses would be much harder for her unless she finds a way to add a lot of power. But she's come a long way to proving that from a golf perspective (not just the sponsor's view) this was a well spent exemption.
733 posted on 05/22/2003 10:53:12 AM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: discostu
But she's come a long way to proving that from a golf perspective (not just the sponsor's view) this was a well spent exemption.

Definitely.

734 posted on 05/22/2003 10:54:48 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Protagoras
I'm not sure what the PGA average is from 25 feet. I was just musing because someone said 6 footers were gimmes and
the tour players regularly knockem in from 25 foot.
735 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:00 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: Richard Kimball
I wasn't, but I'm really impressed. If she can play this well, I'd love to see her get a card and start playing the tour.

Never happen, she would never give up the money, fame and endorsements as the leader on the LPGA for playing in the obscure PGA middle making plane fare.

736 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:08 AM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: NittanyLion
Thanks for the ESPN coverage... I'll use that from now on...

10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is 18" short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is 10" short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim of the green, makes par.
13th (par 3, 178 yds): 3 inches off of the carpet, birdie putt is GOOD.
14th (par 4, 457 yds): On the green in two, long birdie putt is 6" short, makes par.
15th (par 4, 430 yds): Drive barely on the fairway, 2nd shot on the green, long birdie putt misses left. 5" par putt is good.
16th (par 3, 188 yds): Tee shot is within 6ft of the pin, birdie putt is barely right, 2" par putt is good.
17th (par 4, 383 yds): On the fairway, approach shot hits the green, long birdie putt missed, 3" par putt is good.
18th (par 4, 427 yds): On the fairway, lucky bounce onto the green, long birdie putt is 15" left, makes par.
1st (par 5, 565 yds): On the fairway twice, third shot is on the green, medium birdie putt misses left, 12” par putt is good.
2nd (par 4, 400 yds): On the fairway, approach shot is on the green, looong birdie putt misses left, makes par.
3rd (par 4, 476 yds): On the fairway, 15 ft birdie putt is just short, makes par
4th (par 3, 246 yds): Drive is on the green, long birdie putt misses just short, makes par.
5th (par 4, 470 yds): Drive misses the fairway, approach rims the green, 60 ft putt, 8ft putt misses, bogeys.
6th (par 4, 393 yds): On the fairway, approach is with 20ft, birdie putt goes long, 5 ft putt makes par.
7th (par 4, 427 yds): On the fairway, approach shot just hits the green, 25ft birdie putt is short, makes par.
8th (par 3, 192 yds):
9th (par 4, 402 yds):

737 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:24 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: GallopingGhost
Any comments from those actually watching on pin positions today? Days 3/4 typically feature the most challenging positions, particularly on the signature holes. Wondering how accessible the pins have been today.
738 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:30 AM PDT by cschroe
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To: vrwinger
ESPN:
Hole 7: 427 yards, par-4
She took driver out on this par-4, nailing her tee shot down the middle of the fairway about 255 yards. Her 170-yard approach shot found the front of the green. Her birdie putt from around 25 feet fell a few rolls short of the cup, and she hit the tap-in for PAR.
739 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:41 AM PDT by vrwinger
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To: Petronski
I stand corrected. I forgot that this was Memorial Day weekend.
740 posted on 05/22/2003 10:55:52 AM PDT by strela (24-26 May 2003 - Its Not Just Another 3-Day Weekend)
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