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WHY I’M A LIBERAL [AM: Yes, I know. I know]
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Posted on 05/20/2003 7:37:40 AM PDT by new spartacus

Sunday was a gorgeous day here in Los Angeles, clear, windy, just a hint of smoke from the fire up above Santa Clarita.

The SO – who is the “perfect pillion” as well as a pretty good rider herself – and I took the motorcycle out and spent the day with some friends riding through the canyons up there, and on the way I was strongly reminded of why I am a liberal.

First, the clean air.

The population of Southern California has gone up by about 60% since 1970, according to the Southern California Association of Governments. Auto ownership and use has grown faster, probably about 25% more, I’ll estimate, so we’re looking at a 75% increase in vehicle-miles. We’ve probably lost a bunch of manufacturing and refining, but employment is still a whole bunch higher than it was back then.

And I remember summer days in high school when you couldn’t see the end of my West LA block for the smog. Two-a-days in the pool at school when you spent the day with “aqualung”—a chest so sore you couldn’t raise your voice.

My sons haven’t had those problems (I am aware of the higher incidence of asthma, but there’s a bunch of interesting epidemiology on that). I don’t think their children will, either. Why?

The damn bureaucrats, and their command-and-control bureaucracy. Personally, I think there are more refined tools available to us in the Information Age … Precision Guided Munitions of regulation, rather than the crude daisy-cutters. But if we don’t regulate, we’ll choke.

Next, the infrastructure.

Our normal ride, up Bouquet Canyon, was closed due to the fire, so we rode up San Francisquito Canyon instead (past “A Place to Shoot”, a pretty decent firing range).

In the canyon you can see the remnants of William Mulholland’s last great project, the St. Francis Dam, which failed catastrophically in 1928, killing at least 500.

But Southern Californians live on the desert because of the infrastructure that gives us water, protects us from floods, lets us move around, etc. etc. etc.

I know that each of these is the heavy boot of man’s dominion over nature…but unless we are all willing to live like Gabrielinos, we need it.

And the infrastructure isn’t just physical, but social as well. I have a bachelor’s and a master’s from the University of California, and it is a truism the public university has changed people’s lives.

Finally, charity and hope.

We spent Saturday night at the annual fundraiser for the St. Joseph’s Center in Venice. This hasn’t been a brilliant year for us financially, but we managed to give some away anyway, and enjoyed the company of a bunch of people who were doing pretty much the same thing.

I’ve always felt that I was an economic liberal because I enjoyed my nice things less when I had to either worry about someone trying to hit me on the head and take them away, or eat my meal in the window of a restaurant while a starving family stood outside.

Look, I know that the biggest beneficiaries of the welfare programs in the last fifty years have been the people who work for the welfare departments.

I know that we’ve grown dysfunctional cultures like mold on bad French cheese.

But does it tell you we’ve accomplished something when the biggest nutritional problem among the very poor is obesity?


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: genewadingpool; hiimstupid; iamtoostupidtobreed; logicnotspokenhere; rosietookmyyellow; stupidandproudofit; villageidiot; zot
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To: Admin Moderator
You are too kind! Thank you, even if you did imply that flying under the radar was some kind of *bad* thing! *giggle*

Now, after I have unleashed the nefarious left on FR, I must go do some actual work...

121 posted on 05/20/2003 8:50:31 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Constitution Day
He's jealous... your ZOT was better'n his'n. ;^)

(Probably meant to reply to post #1, and just clicked on yours.)

122 posted on 05/20/2003 8:51:04 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317
:-)

It's ok- we don't really mind the critiques or feedback.

123 posted on 05/20/2003 8:51:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: new spartacus
Is this for real? This is laughable..
124 posted on 05/20/2003 8:52:02 AM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obsfucation)
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To: new spartacus
You really have to wonder about a person who actually thinks those are liberal values. The government feeding and housing the poor is inefficient and wasteful and makes for dependent classes. It's the responsibility of those who have to do charitable works, the government taking over those responsibilities has allowed people to actually distance themselves from the problems allowing the problems to remain unsolved.

As to air and water purity, do they really think conservatives want to live in a world of smog? If these were the only things that the liberals were doing nobody would mind. However, it's the systematic destruction of the values of this country that has become the concern.

This guy has to ask himself why it is that the America haters have glommed onto the liberal agenda. He also has to ask himself what makes him so qualified to establish the rules for the rest of us.

125 posted on 05/20/2003 8:55:21 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: vbmoneyspender
Not to mention all of the illegals that have settled in CA as well.
126 posted on 05/20/2003 8:58:20 AM PDT by wjcsux
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To: All; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave
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127 posted on 05/20/2003 8:58:26 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Flurry
How trolls view themselves



How WE view trolls

128 posted on 05/20/2003 8:59:35 AM PDT by justshe
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To: M. Peach
I was a liberal until I grew up... about age 40. Then, all of a sudden, I realized that I wanted to be defined by what I was for instead of what I was against.

That's the true line of separation between liberals and conservatives.

129 posted on 05/20/2003 8:59:55 AM PDT by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Bonus point for "cheese" and "french" in the same sentence.

And "mold!"

130 posted on 05/20/2003 9:04:37 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: new spartacus
"Are you better off now than four years ago?"

Yes, quite. Let me count the ways:

  1. I have a solid job with a solid future (unlike the career when working for the fly-by-night "dot-com" industry in the late 1990s through 2000);
  2. I'm married to a wonderful woman (we waited until Clinton left office so the Presidential congratulation notice would be signed by someone other than that weasel);
  3. We're living in a better house in a better neighborhood (dope-peddling "diversity" ruined the last neighborhood); and finally...
  4. We have a vastly superior President now -- one whose character and backbone far exceeds the...creature...we had in the Oval Office four years ago.

So yes, we are better off now than we were four years ago. Why? Probably because we didn't make our living by sucking off the government teat and actually did something with our lives.

Like, duh?

-Jay

131 posted on 05/20/2003 9:06:13 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (When the smoke cleared, the terrorist was over there...and over there...and over there...)
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To: Our man in washington
1. The Philadelphia Phillies play baseball games.
2. I like watching baseball games.
3. Therefore, I am a Philadelphia Phillies fan.
4. Everyone who likes watching baseball games should be a Philadelphia Phillies fan.


OK, now we're talking about something that makes sense !!!

PS. The rest of your post was excellent
132 posted on 05/20/2003 9:08:06 AM PDT by baseballmom
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To: justshe
Excellent. Bravo.
133 posted on 05/20/2003 9:08:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (If you're looking for a friend, get a dog.)
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To: new spartacus
Actually, yes, thanks for asking!
134 posted on 05/20/2003 9:14:05 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
How to Skin a Rat Properly

I think it's time to discard the practice of referring to the Leftists as "rats." The reasons are many (not the least of which is that it's denigrating to the rats).

You see, I have pet rats. And in knowing these little furballs, I've come to better understand their qualities. In this, I've noticed some stark contrasts between Democrats and Rats.

For example:

Now you tell me who the dumb animals are.

-Jay

135 posted on 05/20/2003 9:16:44 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (When the smoke cleared, the terrorist was over there...and over there...and over there...)
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To: Redwood71
Your glass isn't half full, it's cracked.

LOL..............wonderful post, and perfect ending line!

136 posted on 05/20/2003 9:56:48 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: new spartacus

VIKING KITTIE ZOT!!

137 posted on 05/20/2003 10:22:32 AM PDT by 4mycountry (If I'm a Viking Kittie, and kitties hunt mice, then why am I hunting "trolls"?)
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To: new spartacus; Maigrey
Hmmmmm......let's see......our country is no longer under the 'leadership' of an amoral, debauched, anti-American creep, is heading back toward the truths of its founding under a President with honor, dignity, courage, morality, strength and love of country.

Our military is strong, our economy is on the rebound from the Clinton recession, the terrorists who grew and multiplied under the debauched xlinton, are being captured and crippled.........need I go on??

Am I better off now than I was when your dirty boy left office????.......not even debatable.........YES!!!!!

btw, cute pic of the man who's saving you leftists from yourselves.....

138 posted on 05/20/2003 10:50:02 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!! Leadership, Morality, Integrity)
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To: Ditto
He calls himself a Liberal because he has been told all of his life that anyone who is not liberal is a cold-hearted meanie who wants to see poor people starve and children choke on dirty air. He thinks by calling himself a liberal he is automatically morally superior to people who are not liberal.

I know, I did not mean to yell. I just get fed up with the moral superiority.

I give to what I feel passionate about.

I do not write articles about how great I am for helping those little people who cannot help themselves.

139 posted on 05/20/2003 11:48:00 AM PDT by tndarlin
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To: Flurry
Welcome to FR. You're not really that new though, but since you mentioned that you were relatively new here, I'm welcoming you! And you joined on a great day.
140 posted on 05/20/2003 12:15:00 PM PDT by b4its2late (Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.)
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