Genetics gives you the potential and environment is the circumstances around your choices to develope it. What genetics does not give, the environment can't develope. You seem to be confused about this issue, and perhaps others as well? 
Posted on 05/15/2003 8:29:22 PM PDT by no_gods_no_masters
The nature of conservative politics is very much of the status quo, the standards set by society for itself and which is harshly regulated by the establishment and by the right. Anything outside of the "normal" is to be destroyed, looked down upon, or forgotten. Only one culture is acceptable to the conservative and to the right, the culture, of course, of the that group. All others are unimportant and wrong.
Look at the obviously pro-capitalist stance taken by most, if not all, conservatives. It is the viewpoint that only what is good for me and my own is good and f**k the rest. Well, if your society continues to crumble because the power is concentrated for your own good, then it is not in the end good for your own ends. Rather, the collective raising of the foundation of society is what is needed, not for the rich to get richer or for people to seperate even more, and thus the apparent alienation and complacent ignorance I've found in many conservative types.
Conservatives can obviously not make the connection between elitist class systems and the violence and "moral" outrage that is about. Environment is the largest contributor to the developement of an individual, and when that environment is violent and/or oppressed, then that individual will often take on some of these characteristics. Then you say they should make tougher laws and they should be thrown in a cage so we can continue to ignore them and pretend they are sub-human or at the very least those we need to climb over and ignore to get in our wonderful positions.
Rightist politics is also very privy to negative discrimination against races, religions, the sexes that don't "know their role", homosexuality, and just about anything else that is the slightest bit different from your conceptualization of the world as you wish to see it. I'm am not saying all or even many conservatives are sexists or racists, just that conservative politics tends toallow such behavior to be developed.
I need not go into the ignorant show of patriotism, as I will not change your opinions about that and probably never will, no matter what the government does.
This exercise in freedom may not make it on the board. I believe in complete and total freedom. In the US we do not have that. We have freedom compromised to a point with security, which is not freedom by definition, or by practice. Before some of you start fling things in my direction and typing in response: "You don't like it, go somewhere else" or "F**k you, liberal scum"(by the way, I'm not liberal and neither are many groups on the left), I would like to say that I simply notice and wish to change the things I view as wrong with the government, and doesn't make me a heretic, just some who dissents, and it is quite unfortunate that those two have come to common meanings in these past two years of the exploitation of liberty and the expansion of capitalism.
That's all I wish to say.
Genetics gives you the potential and environment is the circumstances around your choices to develope it. What genetics does not give, the environment can't develope. You seem to be confused about this issue, and perhaps others as well?
Presidential speechwriter Peggy Noonan
Let's see, character, character. Yep, we've got it in the White House today. That hurts, doesn't it?
NONE of these are conservative values. Political Correctness is rampant in our culture and in our institutions, especially Academia, and Gubbermint.
The very idea that you put forth is laughable. To a very large degree, Conservatism is based on 2 things: 1) a set of core principles that the Left does not have; and 2) a reaction against people like you.
Just try flying sometime.
This account has been banned or suspended.
Looks like the Mod saved him the embarassment of seeing the drubbing he's getting. Who says conservatives are mean? :)
Capitalists make their fortunes by providing a product or service for others; creating something of value for others. The value they create is not measured by them. (What was Ray Croc going to do with billions of hamburgers, hoard them all for himself?) The capitalist's reward for his/her efforts is based on the success, or lack thereof, in creating value for others. If the product or service is of no value to others, then the capitalist's efforts are not rewarded. This is as it should be in a fair and just society.
You'd think they would have made atleast one omelette by now...
Like the song says, "Tis a shame, all the pain we're missing . . ."
I'm going to lean against this wall, and pray for the banning to fall!
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don't try to make me feel guilty
I'm so tired of hearing you cry
There's nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask me I'll say it's just fine
There's nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
I'm so tired of hearing you whine
About the revolution
Bringin' down the rich
When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby!
If it ain't one thing
Then it's the other
Any cause that crosses your path
Your heart bleeds for anyone's brother
I've got to tell you you're a pain in the ass
You criticize with plenty of vigor
You rationalize everything that you do
With catchy phrases and heavy quotations
And everybody is crazy but you
You're just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And you tell me that we've got to get back
To the struggling masses (whoever they are)
You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
What the hell do you know about suffering and pain . . .
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don't try to make me feel guilty
I'm so tired of hearing you cry
You're just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And you tell me that we've got to get back
To the struggling masses (whoever they are)
You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
What the hell do you know about suffering and pain . . .
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
--Oingo Boingo--
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