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The New York Times Has Been Lying to America for 70 Years - Ever Since Walter Duranty in 1932!
Comte De Maistre

Posted on 05/15/2003 3:48:51 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

The New York Times is spinning like crazy, over l'affair Jayson Blair. I just cannot believe how many conservatives, who ought to know better, are allowing themselves to be spun by the rootless cosmopolitans of the NYT and the rest of the liberal media. The young Jayson Blair is simply a little liar, who was well-trained by the big liars at the top ranks of that daily liepaper. Now that the little liar has been caught, the big, fat liars are trying to cover their fat, hairy, behinds, offering up the little liar - whom they trained in their tricks - as a sacrificial lamb.

I know for a fact that lying is routine in much of the mainstream media. I have an uncle who worked in Pat Buchanan's 1996 campaign, and he informed me, with convincing evidence, that the liberal media printed outright lies against Mr. Buchanan, and were not challenged for those lies. It was not simply a matter of taking Buchanan's past columns out of context - such as the filthy and shameless lie that Buchanan had praised Hitler - but there was a lying segment on Nightline, which made statements about the Buchanan family that were later proven to be 100% false.

Anyway, the liberal media is trying to make this a racial issue, as a way of throwing red meat at conservatives (who oppose quotas), as a way of distracting attention from the long record of lies spewed out by the Times even when it was staffed entirely by lily white liberals and communists. That is why the commies of the Times and their apologists are claiming that the Blair scandal is the low point in the newspapers 152 year history. The reason for making that statement, is to create the impression that before Jayson Blair joined the Times, the paper maintained high journalistic standards and integrity. Bullsh*t!

The lowest point in the 152 year history of the NYT (and in all of American journalism), was when New York Times reporter, Walter Duranty, visited Russia in the 1930s and covered up Josef Stalin's Holocaust against Ukrainian and Russian peasants. Estimates of deaths that Stalin caused in that genocide, range from 10 million to 20 million. Duranty portrayed Stalin's Russia as a workers' paradise, and Duranty won the 1932 Pulitzer Prize for his lies, a prize that the Times still brags about today.

Lying is routine for members of the elite liberal media. Conservatives will never get another chance like this, to fully expose the long record of outright lies that the filthy New York Times has engaged in for 70 years. It is time for conservatives to get busy, and go to their NYT archives in libraries and elsewhere, and dig out lies that the Times has been spreading over the past 70 years - heck, even the last 10 to 20 years will do. They should not allow themselves to be distracted by the "diversity angle" that the elite media is pushing. You should not allow the Times to get away with simply tossing an insignificant sacrificial lamb to the sharks. Besides corrections on Blair, NYT readers should expose inaccuracies by Dowd, Friedman, Safire, Miller Rosenthal, Clymer, and other writers. Pay attention to their so-called "anonymous sources".

As far as I am concerned, the NYT was garbage, long before Jayson Blair joined in 1998.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: balkans; communists; dowd; duranty; jaysonblair; lies; nyt; stalin; ukraine
For starters, we need to trace the origin of the stories that claimed that hundreds of thousands of artifacts were looted from Baghdad Museum.
1 posted on 05/15/2003 3:48:51 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Thank you for bringing the name of Walter Duranty to light. His deliberate lies about Stalin were happily promoted by the New York Times. Something we should all be aware of.
2 posted on 05/15/2003 3:54:34 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Ann Coulter seems to understand part of what I am trying to say: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20030515.shtml She observes: Think of it in a nonracial context: Suppose the owner of a big company sends his kid to learn the business and tells low-level managers to treat him just like anyone else. The managers curry favor with the boss by reporting that his son is doing great and is a natural genius for this business. So the kid keeps getting praised and promoted, until one day he is actually put in charge of something he has no ability to run. That is cruel. And it's the story of Pinch Sulzberger, isn't it?
3 posted on 05/15/2003 3:54:51 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: Billy_bob_bob
How true.

The most outrageous part is the fact that Duranty's Pulitzer Prize has never been revoked. There are many who feel that it ought to be revoked posthumously, in honor of the tens of millions butchered by Stalin.
4 posted on 05/15/2003 3:58:00 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre
I don't know one person who is surprised about any of this. Most thought the NYT was less reliable than a grocery store rag sheet. What about CNN? What about Arnett? What about old Molly Ivans? I could go on for hours. The press acts like this is something new.
5 posted on 05/15/2003 4:10:32 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ComtedeMaistre
When a journalist's work is published and includes, "anonymous sources," the publication itself becomes a citeable source.

i.e., I could write an article for Jane's Defence Weekly and state that portions of my information come from, "an anonymous, high-placed source within the Pentagon." Even though I am unwilling or unable to cite my sources, others will know be able to cite Jane's as the source of their information.

I believe in protecting sources for legitimate and ethical reasons. The problem that arises is unethical writers can fabricate things and attribute them to an anonymous source for less than legitmate or ethical reasons; the "prestige," of the publication then puts it's imprimatur on the information.

Frankly, the New York Crimes should be at the top of its best fiction list every week.

6 posted on 05/15/2003 4:15:21 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: *balkans
Lying journalists BUMP!
7 posted on 05/15/2003 4:21:39 PM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: dalebert; ComtedeMaistre
What about CNN? What about Arnett? What about old Molly Ivans?

Precisely. The little liar has been publicly spanked, while the big liars get their own columns and tv shows.

Anyone who has followed an important story in detail has not failed to notice how important details or even entire stories disappear, or get consigned to page 17, how articulate spokesmen for one point of view will be balanced by an inarticulate bufoon speaking for the other side, if any "balance" is offered at all.

Ridiculous charges will be made, and forgotten, again and again, with never a retraction, never any chance for rebuttal. And the mainstream press have had a monopoly until now. One reporter fibbing about his expense account is nothing. What do you do about an entire newspaper, or news channel, that has become poisoned by its political advocacy?

8 posted on 05/15/2003 4:23:36 PM PDT by marron
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Thank you for the article. The NYT does indeed have a long tradition of lying, half truths, and manipulation of the news.

Perhaps I am being too optimistic to think that this absolute power that has been enjoyed by the main stream media for so long is being eroded by Fox News, talk radio, and the Internet. Hope I'm right.
9 posted on 05/15/2003 4:23:43 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: ComtedeMaistre
And then there was the caucasian (photographer) that Howell fired not that long ago for staging news photos. I don't think that one even had the second, third, and fourth chance (and promotion) that Blair got. I'm assuming it's because the photographer was lacking in color.
10 posted on 05/15/2003 4:29:21 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: ComtedeMaistre
The Slimes started the phoney looting of artifacts in Baghdad and blaming it on GW.

The Slimes started the Quagmire lies about the war in Iraq.

The Slimes has spiked and ignored the realities of the mass graves being unearthed in Iraq. They could care less if thousands and thousands of Iraqis were mass murdered.

As you point out the Slimes has at least 7 decades of documented lies.

7 DECADES OF LIES AND PROPGANDA!

11 posted on 05/15/2003 4:36:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has The NY Slimes ever printed the truth in your life time?)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
"l'affair Jayson Blair"

...that is a freppin' CLASSIC!

12 posted on 05/15/2003 4:40:25 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder ...)
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To: marron
You boycott it.
13 posted on 05/15/2003 4:48:56 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ComtedeMaistre
I don't know why you are taking the stick to conservatives. Most of us are perfectly well aware that the NY Times is full of lies, and frequently say so. I have raised the name of Walter Duranty frequently over the years, whenever it was relevant, and sometimes even when it was not; and other Freepers have also mentioned him in connection with this scandal--not to mention Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, and some of the current liars.

In some ways, the best thing about the current scandal is that, even though Jayson Blair is hardly the first Timeswriter to tell lies, he has opened up a big can of worms, and all the LIBERAL media are gleefully jumping on the Times as a result. The spectacle of liberals bashing each other is a very pleasant one, IMHO.
14 posted on 05/15/2003 4:53:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: dalebert
You boycott it.

Thats right.

I have always been a news junkie, but it used to be so much harder. The first thing, you had to have a long memory. If you could remember what they printed 3 months ago, or two years ago on a subject, it made an interesting corrective to what they were telling you today. They would forget what they just told you yesterday, and that was good.

And you had to make it a point to read several sources. It doesn't work anymore, most newspapers are owned by the same companies, and get their stories from the same wire services, and share the same general editorial line, so reading several buys you nothing now. But at one time, there was an advantage to reading more than one newspaper.

I used to hang around the newsstands that sold foreign newspapers and magazines, and that helped a lot. And I would read stuff from the far right and the far left, each of which would include details that the mainstream press would leave out.

It was a lot of work, you had to do all your own filtering, but hey, I'm a geek, I love this stuff.

Its so much easier now. I have a short list of foreign newspapers I read on the internet, and there is Drudge for the headlines, and then Free Republic, where dozens or maybe hundreds of people are doing my digging for me. And if an article is bogus, you can count on someone to catch it, and refute it, with sources and links. Its incredible.

I haven't bought a newspaper - except to check the want ads - in a long time. Once in a while sitting in an airport I would pick up the New York Times to get the foreign news if nothing else is available, or just to see what their editorial page is saying today. But I long ago stopped caring what they thought, except as a matter of idle interest, or something to shoot at.

15 posted on 05/15/2003 5:22:38 PM PDT by marron
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Don't forget about the shameless promotion of Fidel Castro back in the 1950's by Herbert Matthews of the esteemed NYT, which was practically the House Organ for Castro at the time.

Matthews and others wrote long and adulatory "news" articles datelined from the Sierra Maestra Mountains which glorified Dr. Fidel and the Fidelistas as reformist democrats who only wanted to bring freedom and political independence to the suffering campesinos of Cuba.

Two weeks after Fidel entered Havana to the triumphant cheers of millions, the firing squads started and it has been downhill ever since.

The New York Times never apologised for their biased "news" coverage which had a great deal to do the survival of Castro's Movement and our withdrawl of politial support for Battista. Although Battista was a thuggish dictator who deserved to be overthrown, there were genuine democrats who were a part of the revolution who also ended up either shot or in exile in Miami, some later to surface in The Bay Of Pigs fisaco. But, the true reformers never had a chance in la Revolucion because by the time Castro took over, he had already been crowned The Wave Of The future by our elitists in the Media - who loved the guy - and our State Department which faithfully followed the Times disinformation.

There was plenty of evidence before Castro and his close followers took over that they were dedicated Communists. However, most of this information was "spiked" by Castro-friendly journalists like Herbert Matthews and The New York Times, who marched at the head of the parade of those touting Castro!

16 posted on 05/15/2003 5:32:03 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: ComtedeMaistre
The "timing" of this most recent scandal is especially helpful to the Republicans, because the Democratic politicians had recently intensified their campaign of depending on quotes from papers to spread useful lies.

If the Democrats used (pro-liberal) quotes from papers like the Times, they could "say" something (for the Congressional record or for a television audience) without being held personally accountable.

If a paper said there was, for example, an alleged connection between a Republican and some evildoer, the Democrat could pretend to ask for "clarification" about the allegation, without seeming to bring up the allegation himself.

The Democrats' and Times' collaborative "one-two punch" has been substantially weakened.

17 posted on 05/17/2003 3:48:15 PM PDT by syriacus (If the NY Times is hiring a Jayson Blair replacement, Michael Moore could fill his boots.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
My parents are faithful NYT readers. I have been bashing them for it for years now. Now, they are starting to be a bit less convinced about the NYT's veracity, at least as far as Blair and now Raines goes. Anyway, I sensed an opening and brought up Walter Duranty. Sure enough, it was virgin territory as far as they went. I told them to do a google search on Walter Duranty (nothing more) and see what turns up. Yechh! I hope they do this... and then cancel their subscription. (Then my life will be complete :-)
18 posted on 06/07/2003 12:05:45 AM PDT by SteveH
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