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Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again.
1 posted on 05/14/2003 2:32:07 PM PDT by Godebert
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This is a firestorm issue, and one Bush needs to consider carefully before he commits. It can't hurt him politically to support it; he can't be trusted on gun issues as it is. But a White House rally behind Charles Schumer & Co. will end his appeal to the gun-owning Right. And it will force gun owners to choose their "conservatives" much more cautiously in the future.
2 posted on 05/14/2003 2:37:15 PM PDT by IronJack
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Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again.

What an idiot. President Bush can't sign a bill that does not reach his desk. It won't pass the House. I would much rather have Bush in the White House than any of the alternatives.

Perhaps you like cutting off your nose to spite your face. In your case it might even be an improvement.

3 posted on 05/14/2003 2:37:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: *bang_list
The gun grabber quotes are not balanced with those
from any pro-2A organization. AP crapola *bang...
4 posted on 05/14/2003 2:40:17 PM PDT by SteveH
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The assualt weapons ban is popular amongst the mainstream. What we want here is a removal of the ban while Bush retains his approval ratings. Thus, Bush should voice support for removal of the ban and let Delay block the bill in the House. When Democrats cry for Bush to break the deadlock, Bush should fire back "Learn to respect the independence of the various branches of government." The net result: Assault weapon ban is removed, Bush remains popular with the people.
5 posted on 05/14/2003 2:42:43 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y

So will I; I'll vote for him, donate to his campaign and get all my friends to vote for Bush :)

8 posted on 05/14/2003 2:44:03 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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did Ari really say that? Keeping republicans feet to the fire is a 24 7 a day job if he did.
10 posted on 05/14/2003 2:44:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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Cross-link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/911200/posts
The RKBA War-- 2 weeks of links ( AWB and more )
various FR links | 05-14-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
12 posted on 05/14/2003 2:46:06 PM PDT by backhoe (My Guns Protect Your Freedom...)
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I hope the ban dies
15 posted on 05/14/2003 2:47:59 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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You can tell by the quote from Emanuel that the dems have figured out Bush is playing this to screw 'em and take another issue off the table. They're scrambling to find a way to hold him responsible when this thing fails to pass. That's why Ari's putting forth this falderal about what a "strong message" Bush has already sent. What's gonna happen is this thing will die in Congress, the Dems will try to blame Bush he'll respond by criticizing them for making the bill unpassable, he'll then be able to stick them with their favorite charge (rolling back 8 years of "Clinton progress") and not only is this issue taken off the table the GOP gets the last laugh on it.

It's good to have a President that grock's politics again, it's like watching Lombardi coach.
18 posted on 05/14/2003 2:52:53 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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Hey I tried that in '92. Look what it got me, 8 years of Bill & Hillary.

No way will this bill reach his desk. He's telling the house and senate to kill it quickly and quietly.

Change comes from within the party. Not by going third party.

Semper Fi
21 posted on 05/14/2003 2:56:11 PM PDT by dd5339 (Lookout Texas, here we come!)
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this is bush playing both sides of the fence. This way he can satify the liberal soccer moms because he will not lift a finger to make it reach his desk.

Democrats are a joke anyways, why listen let alone respect that political party?
22 posted on 05/14/2003 2:58:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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If Bush takes a passive role, pays lip service to this abominable law while letting it die in Congress, I will understand and can accept this weaselly behavior if it does indeed result in the death of the hideous, ineffective and unconstitutional AW ban. Strategery and politics require strange tactics sometimes, the proof is in the outcome.

However, if Bush caves and actively campaigns for the AW ban, and pressures the House to pass it, I will lose most of my respect for the man even though he's been a great President.

Firestorm issue indeed. President Bush, take my advice as one of your loyal supporters: you DO NOT want your name or your support associated with the renewal or strengthening of this law! You'll lose your base, and even if you do get reelected you'll have a Presidency built on the sand. Be a man and reject this bill! You'll be all the stronger for it! Who cares if Feinstein and Schumer pitch a fit? They will anyway! For Christ sake, they pitched a fit because you visited the aircraft carrier! They will pitch a fit if you have eggs for breakfast! Let the AW ban die!

24 posted on 05/14/2003 3:00:59 PM PDT by Sender
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To: Jim Robinson
It ain't over till it's over.
25 posted on 05/14/2003 3:02:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz (In Soviet Union, all your us are belong to base!)
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To: Godebert
Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again.

Good for you. That Constitution Party is gaining a few votes each election cycle. By 2050, they may even reach 100,000 nationwide!

26 posted on 05/14/2003 3:13:12 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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I'll vote Constitution Party again.

VOMIT

28 posted on 05/14/2003 3:14:18 PM PDT by montag813
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When the president states his position like that, it helps get the message to the Congress."


And it sends a message to the millions of members of the NRA. Good way to LOOSE an election.
31 posted on 05/14/2003 3:22:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Jim Abrams lost his credibility right here.

Opponents of gun control legislation, like the Americans for Gun Safety Foundation,

AGS is a gun grabbing group founded by Andrew McKelvey, who used to be on HCI's board of directors. McKelvey backed the McSTAIN/LIEberman gun show ban.

37 posted on 05/14/2003 3:30:41 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("You are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute." - Demolition Man)
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http://www.flashbunny.org/content/assaultweapons.html


53 posted on 05/14/2003 4:04:36 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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It's not going to come up. This is Schumer seeking publicity. If you can't figure that out, go ahead and waste your vote on some 3rd party loser. I'm tired of you people bitching about everything Bush does or says. Politics is not an absoloute world.
65 posted on 05/14/2003 4:16:46 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said

Oh no! Mr. Chuckie!! Please don't throw Mr. Bush in that there briar-patch!

72 posted on 05/14/2003 4:30:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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