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Homosexual Groups Admit ‘10%’ Figure Is Wrong
Traditional Values Coalition ^
| Friday, May 09 @ 15:27:45 CDT
| Traditional Values Coalition
Posted on 05/12/2003 9:23:01 AM PDT by Remedy
Summary: In fighting to overturn a Texas law against homosexual sodomy, homosexual activists have quietly admitted that their claim that 10% of the population is homosexual is wrong.
In what will go down as one of the most underreported stories of the year, homosexual activists fighting against a sodomy law in Texas have admitted in a legal brief that 10% of the population is not homosexual.
The 10% claim has been used for more than 20 years to push the homosexual agendaand to recruit public school children into the homosexual deathstyle.
The admission that the 10% figure is wrong appeared in an obscure footnote in a legal brief filed by a coalition of homosexual groups in the Lawrence v. Texas case now before the Supreme Court.
The coalition consisted of 31 groups including: Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, Parents, Families, & Friends of Lesbians and Gays, The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, and the People for the Way Foundation.
In a footnote on page 16 of this homosexual coalitions legal brief, they admit that "2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."
Our thanks to the Family Research Council for pointing out this footnote and exposing the fact that homosexuals are finally telling the truth about their numbers. To read FRCs analysis of this controversy, click here: Family Research Council: CultureFacts: Culture Facts - April 4, 2003
Read TVCs Homosexual Urban Legend, published last year on this subject: Exposed: The Myth That "10% Are Homosexual".
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: child; children; deceit; deviant; father; gay; gaytrolldolls; homosexual; homosexualagenda; kane; marriage; mother; recruiting; same; samearguments; school; sex; soddomy; sodomites; steve; tvc
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To: kegler4
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posted on
05/13/2003 7:10:04 AM PDT
by
Remedy
To: TexanToTheCore
Another point on Kinsey was that he listed anyone who had ever engaged in homosexual conduct as a homosexual.
To: Remedy
I must assume you posted this link because you agree with what I said. The link you posted, in fact, supports my contention that opposite sex oral sex, particulary between man and wife, does NOT spread horrific diseases. It also confirms that opposite sex oral sex is sodomy. It helps support my contention that my home state has no business outlawing this private act.
If you meant the link as a rebutal to what I said, then once again you have managed to post a completely meaningless link. Given your history, the second is probably right.
243
posted on
05/13/2003 7:23:29 AM PDT
by
kegler4
To: kegler4
U get links because U are so completely clueless. READ THE MATERIAL IN THE LINKS, not just the titles posted on this thread!
244
posted on
05/13/2003 7:31:31 AM PDT
by
Remedy
To: Kevin Curry
That's really twisted. And you spoke to her, first hand?
I think that's where the battle gets fun, when one doesn't have to exaggerate the opposition in order to vilify them.
It's the extremism of the homosexual activist who twist themselves into knots to tell us that being gay's completely normal and natural that I like to attack. Not the gays who wouldn't mind that being the norm, but arent trying to make others believe it and really just don't want to be jailed, discriminated against or even outed. I don't need to misrepresent them all in order to dismantle the arguments of their activists groups.
245
posted on
05/13/2003 7:33:08 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: FourtySeven
And if mental masturbation were illegal, you'd be do 10 to 20 for that post.
To: Remedy
I read the last link, not just the title. No, I did not read every link in the article because I have other things to do with my time. It talked about how dangerous same-sex sodomy (particularly males) is. It also noted that opposite sex sodomy is not nearly as dangerous, particularly if it is oral sodomy. And yes, oral sex between a man and a woman is indeed sodomy.
So tell me, are you one of the nutcases who thinks we also should outlaw everything except the missionary position? I'm talking about opposite sexes, not the homosexuals you are so obssessed with. If so, then you are the one who is truly, truly clueless.
247
posted on
05/13/2003 7:42:56 AM PDT
by
kegler4
To: Remedy
Info bump
248
posted on
05/13/2003 7:46:39 AM PDT
by
Ciexyz
Comment #249 Removed by Moderator
To: madg
"Thacker contracted the AIDS virus in 1986 after his wife was infected during a blood transfusion received during childbirth. Their daughter born of that pregnancy also is HIV-positive."
Transfusions during childbirth are almost always due to hemorrhaging after childbirth or cesarean. How would the baby have gotten it?
Yes, however, the mother could have gotten it from a transfusion if the blood source was a homosexual or a drug addict. In 1986 the blood supply was risky.
I guess we don't know how he got it from her, but a more reasonable explanation would be that he infected her before the baby was born.
250
posted on
05/13/2003 8:29:42 AM PDT
by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: madg
"There is no such thing as an Im not gay immunity from HIV."
Heterosexual women get aids... So do heterosexual babies get it from their moms (though not always). However a heterosexual man that stays away from needles is more likely to get struck by lightning.
251
posted on
05/13/2003 8:37:49 AM PDT
by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: babygene
Oh, one more thing...
Heterosexual women who stay away from homosexual and bisexual men and needles are also less apt to get aids than get struck by lightning.
252
posted on
05/13/2003 8:57:27 AM PDT
by
babygene
(Viable after 87 trimesters)
To: ffusco
When this can be established as a fact I will recant. This will require Homosexuality being reclassified as a mental disorder. Extremely unlikely that this will happen any time soon.
Did you even bother looking at the links I pointed you to (
NARTH)? You do realize that homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder (or worse) for hundreds of years before APA had their politically-driven epiphany in the early 1970s. No matter how APA chooses to classify it, it IS a disorder. One only need look at the rates homosexuals suffer from other mental health problems to understand that.
...its very unlikely that society can easily push them back into the closet, so like it or not in this society there are going to be self-described homosexuals.
True enough. Just as there are self-described drug-addicts, alcoholics, anorexics and manic depressives. Does this mean we should tell them that there's absolutely no hope of helping them escape from this filthy, sad lifestyle?
253
posted on
05/13/2003 10:29:56 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: ffusco
Or it could be that EVERY homosexual was abused as a child..........
I'll bet you'd be truly shocked to learn how close to the truth that statement is......
254
posted on
05/13/2003 10:31:02 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: elfman2
Who on this thread do you think are these "most Homo Promo cheerleaders", huh?
I wasn't necessarily referring to you in particular. I can't help it if you've got a guilty conscience.
I've been told regarding psychosis that after all the "modern treatment" meatheads, about a third get better, a third get worse and a third stay the same. I wouldn't hold that up as a model for sex redirection programs.
Why not? The same holds true for any number of mental illnesses including addictions. For depression, I think the rates are even worse. Should we stop treating them? Homosexuality is like every other mental disorder: If the afflicted individual has a genuine will to change, treatment has a much better chance of being successful. That's why the militant homo-promo crowd (which you are not a part of) is so vehement in denying that true change can ever take place. The more people they can get to believe it, the less likely treatment for such people will ever be successful.
And I doubt that you'd be happy with a recent "graduate" announcing that he's going to marry your daughter.
Perhaps not a "recent" graduate, but someone who's been able to shake off the disorder and live clean for several years would be fine with me (assuming he didn't have any STDs). Indeed, to have overcome such a terrible problem would be a plus in my book.
Being gay is no more a "choice" than being crazy.
If you're telling me that a schizophrenic can control the way they act, I think you're the one who's crazy. There is NO biological or hereditary compulsion to anal sex. Such a disgusting act doesn't just happen. The act itself is a choice--and often a deadly one.
255
posted on
05/13/2003 10:45:30 AM PDT
by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Antoninus
Yes I realize that homosexuality was only until recently classified as a mental disorder. However as long as self-described homosexuals have a political identity this will never be reclassified.
Re Helping: How do you suggest helping them, if they do not want to be helped?
256
posted on
05/13/2003 11:02:04 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: Antoninus
I don't know that I would be shocked, as lots of people are abused and dont turn out gay, But until a conclusive study of all homosexuals could be studied It is only a hunch, And there are some undoubtedly Gay men that were not abused, so I think you have to be careful about making these kinds of assumptions.
257
posted on
05/13/2003 11:14:49 AM PDT
by
ffusco
(Maecilius Fuscus, Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
To: Kevin Curry
sexual perversion is okay according to the APA as long as the pervert feels good about him or herself. Yes you are correct, the terminology I cited was right off the APA web site. Lack of anxiety, good psychosocial and a positive well being and poof youre not sick.
Why the APA doesn't use the same reasoning to eliminate narcissism as a disorder
or pedophilia or transgenderism or any of the other paraphilic disorders.
To: Remedy
Bump.
To: ffusco
How do you suggest helping them, if they do not want to be helped?
POST #116
260
posted on
05/13/2003 12:42:24 PM PDT
by
Remedy
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