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Distrusting John Locke (Why Locke was no conservative)
Chronicals ^ | 1/2001 | Paul Gottfried

Posted on 05/10/2003 10:58:47 AM PDT by traditionalist

From the January 2001 issue of Chronicles:

Distrusting John Locke
by Paul Gottfried

John Locke has been interpreted in various ways that appeal to conservatives—e.g., as a Christian, albeit a materialist and anti-Trinitarian, or as a qualified defender of private property—but there is a general drift to his thought that should offend traditionalists.  His view of human beings as thinking matter without the capacity for innate ideas, his unmistakable faith in sexual egalitarianism, and his constructivist theory of civil society are all fundamentally anti-conservative.  The point is not whether any of these positions is theoretically defensible but whether conservatives (or historically minded classical liberals) should want to identify themselves as Lockeans.  The clear answer is no.

It is simply untrue that those loyal to the foundations of the American polity must be devotees of Locke.  While some passages in the Declaration of Independence were adapted from Locke’s Second Treatise, George Carey, Forrest McDonald, and M.E. Bradford have all made two self-evident points: Most of the Declaration consists of a bill of grievances that came out of English parliamentary tradition but not necessarily Locke’s writings; and the founding political document of the American nation was the Constitution, not the Declaration.  In any case, as shown exhaustively by McDonald, the Framers, in constructing the federal union, drew on such a multitude of ancient and modern authors that it would be difficult to award Locke pride of place among their sources.

One of the sources for the Constitution was Scottish philosopher David Hume, to whose achievements Donald Livingston has devoted two erudite books.  According to Livingston, Hume’s conception of the social good as grounded in custom and tradition was partly a reaction to the fiction of Locke’s social contract.  In the “Original Contract” and other essays, Hume expressed astonishment that a serious thinker could believe that individuals left a “state of nature” and entered civil society by way of a contract.  Hume wondered how one could build a political theory on a situation that neither he nor his acquaintances had ever encountered.  He was also amused by the notion of “natural right,” a concept of entitlement that was supposed to be natural and inborn but which most of the human race knew nothing of.  If natural right should seem axiomatic, Hume asked, why did individuals throughout the world live “in subordination to each other” without a sense of being deprived of rights?  Hume was not defending oppression but insisting that subjects of a limited monarchy should note their historical blessings and advantageous customs instead of inventing bogus rights and chimerical states of nature.

But Lockean contractualism has graver flaws than its bizarre anthropology.  It is not coincidental that socialist John Rawls and mainstream welfare statists find it appealing.  Although Locke treats property as a natural right that civil society might be required to defend, his defense of property per se was rather qualified.  As the closing sections of the Second Treatise and the scholarship of Richard Ashcraft indicate, Locke was an embattled advocate of “the People” when it set out to overthrow tyranny and establish popular government.  A tension, in fact, exists between Locke’s rights to life, liberty, and property and the majoritarian democracy that he evokes in his political pamphlets.  As Ashcraft suggests, this tension can be resolved as easily in the direction of democratic collectivism, based on presumed individual consent, as it can by affirming the inviolability of property.

In the world of possessive individualism conceived by this late 17th-century Whig pamphleteer, the state comes into existence to ensure the individual’s right to material gratification.  If the people see fit, the Lockean regime can achieve its purpose as plausibly by redistributing earnings and handing out entitlements as it can by protecting entrepreneurial profit.  It can also enforce claims beyond the ones Locke fancied, if the majority comes to consider such claims as natural rights.  Why limit rights to the short list Locke drew up when he was trying to dislodge the Stuart monarchs?  It makes good Lockean sense to have the modern state guarantee claims that are more relevant today: e.g., a right to self-esteem or protection against insensitive white males, who don’t seem to mind being jerked around by the thought police.  There is no Lockean requirement that rulers uphold natural rights in the form in which they existed before the rise of civil society.  “Rights” mean what the majority takes to be a tolerable understanding of them on the part of those who rule.  On this point, the late Willmoore Kendall, on the populist right, and John Rawls and Richard Ashcraft, on the socialist left, have interpreted Locke quite accurately.

Locke’s contributions to political theory can still be read with profit, particularly his strictures on the limits of political covenants.  His critical observations concerning Robert Filmer’s defense of divine-right monarchy in the First Treatise on Civil Government make a brilliant polemic, even if Locke often misrepresents his opponent.  But Locke’s contractualism is a slippery slope which leads to the political culture that dominates us; the connections between the two are too obvious to be missed.  On balance, I agree with the thoughtful counterrevolutionary Joseph de Maistre, who both admired and feared Locke’s imaginative energies: “Le dÈbut du discernement c’est le mÈfi de Jean Locke.”

Paul Gottfried is a professor of humanities at Elizabethtown College in Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania, and the author, most recently, of After Liberalism: Mass Democracy in the Managerial State (Princeton).




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: conservatism; constitution; declaration; hume; locke; paulgottfried
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To: traditionalist; Dumb_Ox
FROM THE EARLIER THREAD:

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58 Posted on 06/12/2001 18:41:48 PDT by Dumb_Ox

21 posted on 05/10/2003 4:31:51 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: traditionalist
"Although Locke treats property as a natural right that civil society might be required to defend, his defense of property per se was rather qualified."

This statement isn't factually correct. Locke was such an ardent supporter of private property that he said that if a man steals your coat you have the right to kill him.

22 posted on 05/10/2003 4:35:59 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: cornelis
I had never read that before. Thanks. How interesting.
23 posted on 05/10/2003 4:40:51 PM PDT by William McKinley (Our disagreements are politics. Our agreements are principles.)
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To: traditionalist
the founding political document of the American nation was the Constitution, not the Declaration.

I would some what disagree with this statement

The Declaration is the premise that the Constitution flows from

24 posted on 05/10/2003 4:43:51 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: traditionalist
the founding political document of the American nation was the Constitution, not the Declaration.

I would some what disagree with the above statement

The Declaration is the premise that the Constitution flows from

25 posted on 05/10/2003 4:47:45 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: Princeliberty
The founders believed we have God given (not contract given) rights that no government may violate and if they do so they become tyrants who have lost their right to rule and can be opposed by legitimate leaders.

That is precisely right. The compact concept is the basis of Government, not the basis of the rights that Government is supposed to secure.

The fact that the founding fathers accepted Locke's view that Government is a social compact, does not mean that they endorsed everything he wrote, or even considered much of what he wrote as relevant. The basic concept, not the author or his treatment of related topics, is the point. The concept in our Declaration of Independence has nothing to do with hero worship, or endorsement of any social view not discussed.

For the full text of what the Declaration actually says, see Declaration Of Independence.

William Flax

26 posted on 05/10/2003 4:49:53 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: William McKinley
It wouldn't be the first time and certainly not the last, when one person gets a bit too much credit, while others get less. (Just look at John Lennon. ;-)
27 posted on 05/10/2003 4:50:20 PM PDT by unspun
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To: RJCogburn; Chirodoc
Care to defend Locke's theory of self-ownership here?
28 posted on 05/10/2003 5:19:45 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: unspun
Thanks for the reference. I was aware that Jefferson was a Locke fan, but he was a radical Jacobin sypathizer, and hence hardly a conservative, though mellowed later in his career.

I was a little surprised to see that Adams favorably referenced him. Adams was was a cool head and after the war of independence even had some monarchist leanings, but I suppose earlier in his career he may have had some radical tendencies, of which he thankfully disposed before becoming president.

29 posted on 05/10/2003 5:33:50 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: cornelis
Jefferson used Locke just a Locke used Rousseau and I would hardly call Rousseau a conservative.
30 posted on 05/10/2003 6:06:24 PM PDT by LauraJean (Fukai please pass the squid sauce)
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To: traditionalist
Some of the “Founders” at Fancuil-Hall on Friday the 20th of November, 1772 agreed with Locke on the absolute Rights of Englishmen, and all Freemen. The following is part of their document.

"At a Meeting of the Freeholders and other Inhabitants of the Town of BOSTON, duly warned and assembled, in Fancuil-Hall according to Law, on Friday the 20th of November, 1772; then and there to receive and act upon the Report of a Committee appointed at a former Meeting on the 2d of the same Month; and such other Things as might properly come under the Consideration of the Town.

"The Honorable JOHN HANCOCK, Esq;
Being unanimously chosen Moderator,
The Chairman of said Committee
acquainted him that he was ready to make Report,
and read the same as follows.

"III. The Rights of the Colonists as Subjects.

"A Commonwealth or State is a Body politick or civil Society of Men, united together to promote their mutual Safety, and Prosperity, by Means of their Union.*
* See Locke and Vatel.

"The absolute Rights of Englishmen, and all Freemen in or out of civil Society, are principally, personal Security, personal Liberty and private Property.
All Persons born in the British American Colonies, are, by the Laws of GOD and Nature, and by the common Law of England, exclusive of all Charters from the Crown, well entitled and by Acts of the British Parliament are declared to be entitled, to all the natural, essential, inherent and inseperable Rights, Liberties and Privileges of Subjects born in Great-Britain, or within the Realm. Among those Rights are the following; which no Man or Body of Men, consistently with their own Rights as Men and Citizens, or Members of Society, can for themselves give up, or take away from others.

"First, “The first fundamental positive Law of all Commonwealths or States, is the establishing the Legislative Power: As the first fundamental natural Law also, which is to govern even the Legislative Power itself, is the Preservation of the Society.”*
*Locke on Government. Salut [sic] Populi Suprema [sic] Lex esto. [sic]

"Secondly, The Legislative has no Right to absolute arbitrary Power over the Lives and Fortunes of the People: Nor can Mortals assume the Prerogative, not only too high for Men, but for Angels; and therefore reserv’d for the Exercise of the Deity alone.
“The Legislative cannot justly assume to itself a Power to rule by extempore arbitrary Decrees; but it is bound to see that Justice is dispensed, and that the Rights of the Subjects be decided, by promulgated, standing and known Laws, and authorized independent Judges;” that is, Independent as far as possible, of Prince and People. “There should be one Rule of Justice for Rich and Poor; for the Favourite at Court, and the Countryman at the Plough.” *
* Locke"



31 posted on 05/10/2003 9:40:52 PM PDT by TimTyler
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To: traditionalist; cornelis; William McKinley; x; Cicero
It makes good Lockean sense to have the modern state guarantee claims that are more relevant today: e.g., a right to self-esteem or protection against insensitive white males, who don’t seem to mind being jerked around by the thought police.

It seems rather unfair to reject Locke based on a position he did not hold. It also seems rather bizarre to accuse him of being a proto-marxist and to reject him on that account, as Voegelin did in post #20.

If the complaint is that Locke was not a conservative, in the traditionalist sense of the word, then fine. He would likely have agreed with you, as would most of the founding fathers. He was a classic liberal, perhaps he was "Mr." Classic Liberal himself, as were a preponderance of the founders who read him and based their revolution on him.

My impression has been that the average American "conservative" is in fact a liberal in the classic sense. The adherence to the concept of individual liberty, limited government, the crucial importance of private property as a guarantor of personal liberty, these are liberal concepts in the classic sense.

Of course, none of this is "either-or", there seems to me to be a huge overlap, most of the conservatives of renown that we care about here were whigs, and most whigs were also traditionalists to some degree.

What I am trying to gather in following this thread is simply the following. It is clear that Gottfried doesn't like Locke. Its clear that Voegelin doesn't either calling him "...one of the most repugnant, dirty, morally corrupt appearances in the history of humanity... " seems rather excessive to me, but clearly there is something here that I am missing.

If the men who wrote the founding documents were Lockeans, as is more or less established in post #16, if the central thrust of Locke's non-philosophy is limited government, "life, individual liberty, and private property", then where is our disagreement? It seems insufficient to simply call him "not a conservative", which is a given, or "repugnant". At least for my purposes here, what does he say that is wrong?

I get the impression that his attackers are trying to eliminate his influence from the discussion by means of an ad hominem attack, without yet revealing what their own case is.

I realize I may be a bit out of my league here, but I invite comment. And looking at the links in post #16, I clearly have some reading to do.

32 posted on 05/10/2003 9:41:52 PM PDT by marron
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To: cornelis
Very interesting letter, thank you.

With that, the question arises, essentially for the whole Age of Reason, whether a ratio that, unlike the classical and Christian, does not derive its authority from its share in divine being is still in any sense a ratio? For Locke, it is clear on the strength of your excellent study that it is no longer that. In the concrete realization he must drop the swindle of ratio, and in the last instance refer to desire.

I'm not well-read enough in Locke to know if this is true, but I've long suspected that Locke's theories of consent are easily interpreted in such a manner that consent becomes a matter of will alone rather than a matter of reason. Thus we have legal positivism on an individual scale, a politics where "will makes right." And from there it's a short step to Humean emotivism.

Is it accurate to say that the Right is prior to the Good for Locke? It seems to me that the liberty of his state of nature is indifferent to any vision of the good life.

33 posted on 05/10/2003 9:50:58 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: Ohioan
To be sure the Social Compact was the basis
for the founding of the federal government.

Again, the founding of he Nation and
the founding of the Federal government
are two different things. Today
we tend to think of them as the same
event and that is part of really
bad thinking. Just as the liberals
believe we receive rights form
the government.
34 posted on 05/10/2003 10:48:26 PM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: cornelis; marron; traditionalist; William McKinley; unspun
That is certainly a fascinating find. One could argue that Voegelin's words reflect a continental response to English thought. What strikes a Continental European as monstrous and depraved is taken by the Englishman or American as a matter of course. Those who come before the revolution find it frightening and destructive. Those who come afterwards accept it.

Maybe one steeped in classical or medieval or possibly German philosophy approaches Locke as a shocking new departure. For those in the Anglo-American empirical or positivist or analytical traditions, he's a distant ancestor, old fashioned but not frightening. And over the past few decades the traditions have grown closer together, as Anglo-American social views have found acceptance in Europe (and to some degree vice versa as well).

Voegelin has a point in finding the Lockean revolution ugly and godless. But on the whole the consequences of Continental theorists have probably been worse. Locke may represent not so much a political philosophy as the Anglo-American resistance to theory or totalizing philosophies. Or perhaps that resistance has saved us from the true consequences of his philosophy.

Perhaps having a frontier meant that secular revolutionary ideas didn't have the consequences they did in crowded Europe (though some blame Locke for the sufferings of indigenous peoples -- I suspect some of his ideas on property ownership more an effect than a cause of the settlement of new lands). Or perhaps the apparent Christian husk of Locke's thought was taken for the kernel itself by his contemporaries and decendants and seen as something essential rather than superficial or superfluous.

But if conservatives are to reject Locke as a radical, it's hard to see how they can hold tightly onto Hume as Gottfried and Livingston do. Arguably Hume shook the foundations of Western thought more than Locke could ever dream of doing.

Still, it is good to know that Voegelin was so uninhibited in expression. It's hard to know what Strauss thought. He clearly disliked Locke very much, but the other ambiguities in his thinking make him hard to figure out, so some of his followers (the "West Coast" Straussians) apparently accept and celebrate Locke.

Here are two articles for anyone interested: Was Leo Strauss Wrong about John Locke? and Locke's Doctrine of Human Action.

35 posted on 05/10/2003 11:45:28 PM PDT by x
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To: cornelis; marron; Dumb_Ox; x
I have always noted how Russell Kirk went to extreme measures to try to prove that Locke had little specific or practical influence on the founders. He certainly didn't maintain that they had no general knowledge or didn't swim in a sea of thought influenced by he whom some called "the first whig", but Kirk never counted Locke in the conservative cosmos.

Thanks for the letter, Corney...it's amazing the stuff you dig up.

36 posted on 05/12/2003 8:24:49 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: unspun
Thanks for the research.

Hamilton's early writings referenced and showed an understanding of Locke.

I wouldn't say his influence was overwhelming but it was certainly there when he wrote Congress Vindicated and A Westchester Farmer Refuted.
37 posted on 05/12/2003 9:08:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Thanks for the research. Hamilton's early writings referenced and showed an understanding of Locke. I wouldn't say his influence was overwhelming but it was certainly there when he wrote Congress Vindicated and A Westchester Farmer Refuted.

The John Locke as John Lennon analogy again comes to mind. A bit too much credit, even if for a very highly influential figure. Each John seems to have taken in various streams of creative "opera" and dished it out from an advantageous platform.

I tend to favor Paul McCartney -- and Algernon Sidney from the perspective, admitedly, of my very limited education.

38 posted on 05/12/2003 10:33:11 AM PDT by unspun (Merchant Seaman where are you?)
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To: KC Burke; cornelis; traditionalist; marron
The shift in American conservatism from Kirk's day to the present is pronounced. Kirk was critical of the Enlightenment and the homogenization that he associated with it. Today's mainstream conservatives embrace both. It's not hard to understand why. Universal human rights have become an object of greater concern. Cynics would add that US power has become tied to that concern, but one can't simply defend concepts or practices because they are "our own" or different from the norms of other people. Sometimes, though, it does look like the conservative embrace of enlightenment universalism is too passionate and close. Universalism and homogenization still have a dark side that one ignores at one's peril.

Barry Shain's recent book has also criticized the assumption that Locke was behind the revolution.

My guess is that there are three things that make American conservatives cling to Locke.

First, the feeling that making religion paramount will smother individual liberty. That perception may be wrong, but once you get down to the difficult question of which religions is to be adopted and how much toleration or deference there will be for dissenters, it's easy to understand how the assumption arose.

Second, the desire to keep the unruly, populist, individualist strain of American politics to prevent our becoming more docile and timid, like Canadians or Scandinavians. Something in the American character resonates to Locke and generates resistance to political power. Take Locke away and we might be a very different people, with less backbone, less character, and less ability to resist tyranny or conformity.

Third, the fear that a rejection of Locke will bring racialist or collectivist or sociobiological ideas to the fore. There may not be any inevitable connection between the two, but Thomas Fleming's resurrection of Filmer in sociobiological terms indicates that concern on this score is not wholly misplaced. The sense that we shouldn't all be individual islands isolated from each other is an understandable and laudable one, but the alternative of collectivism or social solidarity also has its disadvantages and ugly side.

The conflict between Locke's natural right and earlier natural law may be quite pronounced, but in practice, conflicts between liberty and tyranny or the person and bureaucracy tend to be even sharper, bitterer and more violent. While Locke may be insufficient or wrong philosophically, proponents of liberty find it easy to fall back on a Lockean individualist, property-rights view, because it is so sharply differentiated from the collectivisms of the day.

You can see this at FR every day. Lockean slogans may not always be deep or intellectually fruitful, but they are inspiring and easy to understand and remember when conflicts are less refined and more visceral. Lockean individualism does go to extremes, but when the concern is with backsliding that can look like, or be, a great virtue.

39 posted on 05/12/2003 10:36:37 AM PDT by x
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To: traditionalist
You are absolutely right that John Locke was not a conservative. In the context of the time that John Locke lived, he was a liberal. However there is a great difference between a classical liberal such as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and the Democratic Republicans, versus modern liberals such as Karl Marx. Yet you have to remember at the end of the English Civil War, the more social conservative folks were Monarchists. And Monarchy is no better than Socialism.
40 posted on 05/12/2003 10:38:21 AM PDT by miloklancy
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