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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
What a lode of bull. Who is the Janitor supposed to call? Is there anyone there who outranks a cop? This is a Public Building. Face it you are busted and YOU are going down.
81 posted on 05/06/2003 10:14:07 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: grapeape
i think you have a rather severe misunderstanding of the roles of police officers. First, he wasn't acting in any official capacity. He admitted that. Second, he was outside his jurisdiction. He admitted that. Third, it was after hours and he didn't have a legitimate reason to enter the building (i.e., a reasonable belief that a crime had been committed).

The only reason he was able to get inside the building was that the janitor was too stupid to tell him to pound sand and get a warrant before entering. (It should be obvious that attempting to enter a school at 1:30 am is not just a routine matter).

Cops don't have the right to do anything they want any time they want. Any place that does allow cops to do that is called a 'police state'. I'm sure that's not what you mean to imply exists here.

82 posted on 05/06/2003 10:14:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Hate pop-up ads? Here's the fix: http://www.mozilla.org/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In schools today thats tough to do. For all three of my kids schools you have to sign in, state why your there, and confirm you visit w/ the teacher involved then wear a badge announcing you're visit. If your visit is spontanious your child or the teacher come to you at the office. They don't let you in the building during school hours.
83 posted on 05/06/2003 10:14:50 AM PDT by fml
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To: grapeape
Oh my god what are you people talking about?!?!? This is a police officer. This is a public building! He can go anywhere in the public domain. That is his job.

Read again -- he was outside his jurisdiction as a police officer, and as such had no official business in the school building. He has also stated that he did this as a personal errond while "on break," so it was clearly not "his job."

And if it was "his job," then he would have had to have a search warrant to take the pictures in the first place.

Finally, we have to address his misuse of police equipment: his uniform (which undoubtedly helped to "persuade" the janitor to let him in the room); and his police car, which he improperly took outside his jurisdiction.

Regardless of Treece's activities, this cop was wrong to do what he did. And while he was at it, Treece can now shout "Gestapo tactics," and make it stick.

Mott's gonna pay for this one.

84 posted on 05/06/2003 10:15:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ga Rob
My point exactly, Rob. Parents who care do what you are doing. The rest will be left to these kind of educational wolves - and those parents won't do a thing about it.
85 posted on 05/06/2003 10:15:47 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: zeugma
get a warrant before entering

Since when is a warrant required to enter a PUBLIC BUILDING.

86 posted on 05/06/2003 10:16:00 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
My daughters school does not allow parents to go to the classrooms to get their kids. They must be brought to you by a "runner". You have to make an appointment to speak with a teacher.
87 posted on 05/06/2003 10:16:15 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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To: anniegetyourgun
School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

These unnamed school officials are complete Anti-American slime that should not be feeding off the American taxpayers. The nature of the projects shows that Treece does indoctrinate his students and should be tarred and feathered as a start. His school official enablers, superiors, should probably be more severly punished.

88 posted on 05/06/2003 10:16:31 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: r9etb
Mott's gonna pay for this one.

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Maybe not, he was smart enough to get an attorney.
89 posted on 05/06/2003 10:16:59 AM PDT by fml
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To: Joe Hadenuf
That's the same thing the leftist socialist screw worms in Vermont will say. Next you'll here the cop is suspended without pay until he is investigated....

Well, I never before cared what the socialist screw worms in Vermont had to say, so I’m not going to start now.

And if some politically-active, pro-abortion cop used his uniform and badge to gain access to a classroom in the middle of the night and take pictures of your child’s pro-life art project, you’d be screaming for a lot more than a suspension.

90 posted on 05/06/2003 10:17:07 AM PDT by dead
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To: Ron in Acreage
I'll bet the "runner" is getting paid union scale!

Time to rid our system of these excessive costs.
91 posted on 05/06/2003 10:17:11 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: MineralMan
Unless it is religious speech. Socialists have no problem breaking the law when it fits their purposes. If this person was teaching the history of Christianity then they would have been hammered!! No one in the angry media would have cared at all about the twisted logic you are trying to pull off.
92 posted on 05/06/2003 10:18:15 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: dead
"And if some politically-active, pro-abortion cop used his uniform and badge to gain access to a classroom in the middle of the night and take pictures of your child’s pro-life art project, you’d be screaming for a lot more than a suspension."

And there you go. It seems like many folks on FR are for the cops when the cops are breaking the rules to do something they approve of, but anti-cop when they're doing something else. Your example is excellent.
93 posted on 05/06/2003 10:18:33 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
Let me break those out.....sorry....

Thanks a million, this is gonna be fun. Thanks for the find annie, Rush was all over this.

94 posted on 05/06/2003 10:19:06 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (FReepers discover the TRUTH, and distribute it.)
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To: MineralMan
It's a public school. If free speech is allowed, why not freedom of assembly? Surely the cop should be free to go there to witness all that lovely free speech?
95 posted on 05/06/2003 10:19:20 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: dead
And if some politically-active, pro-abortion cop used his uniform and badge to gain access to a classroom in the middle of the night and take pictures of your child’s pro-life art project, you’d be screaming for a lot more than a suspension.

1) Tell me where in the USA in public school that a child would be allowed to do a pro-life project?

2) The more people who saw this pro-life project the more proud I would be of my child.

96 posted on 05/06/2003 10:19:48 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: grapeape
"If this person was teaching the history of Christianity then they would have been hammered!! "

I don't know why that would be. My local High School offers a class in World Religions. The history of Christianity and of the other major religions is taught in that class. Religion is an important part of history.

What is not taught is that you must be a Christian to go to heaven. That's not an appropriate thing for a public school to be teaching. History of religion is.
97 posted on 05/06/2003 10:20:15 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: grapeape
Just curious. Would you have the same attitude about a police officer doing this if he were an atheist cop photographing a fundamentalist Christian teacher's classroom where the Ten Commandments had been posted?
98 posted on 05/06/2003 10:20:16 AM PDT by USAF_ret
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To: grapeape; jdontom
"Who is the Janitor supposed to call?"

Usually, if there is a crime taking place, the janitor calls the cops himself. If the janitor is concerned about the reason the cop is there..he calls his supervisor. Unless there is a warrant..he does not have let the cop in?? Pinging someone who might know..

Jdontom..what say ye?

99 posted on 05/06/2003 10:20:44 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: MineralMan
MM, the article did say he use to work there. He knew the custodian. So it may not be the uniform influence here.

But don't you think the police officer was proactively protecting the civil rights of the students?
100 posted on 05/06/2003 10:21:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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