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Cop takes 'midnight photos' of teacher's classroom
Times Argus ^ | David Delcore

Posted on 05/06/2003 9:35:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

BARRE – John Mott and Tom Treece have at least one thing in common. Make that two.

Both men think they have been unfairly accused and, if you believe their critics, both have had a chilling impact on students at Spaulding High School.

Mott is the Barre Town police officer who admits he spent part of an early morning break last month photographing student projects in the classroom of a controversial history teacher.

Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class. Part of the proof, critics say, is in the photographs Mott took when he visited the high school April 9 while on duty, in uniform, and out of his jurisdiction.

The photographs were taken at around 1:30 a.m. after Mott, who once worked at Spaulding, persuaded a custodian to unlock the door to the classroom Treece shares with another teacher.

Mott isn’t apologizing for his actions and says he has at least temporarily refused orders from Barre Town Police Chief Michael Stevens and Town Manager Carl Rogers to supply school officials with copies of the photographs.

“I’m going to speak to an attorney first,” he said.

Mott disputes an account of the April 9 incident contained in a letter written by school Superintendent Dorothy Anderson to the police chief.

Specifically, Mott disputes Anderson’s claim that he “banged on the front door” of the high school to get the attention of night custodian Arnold Cliche, and that Cliche opened the door and let him in.

“It didn’t happen that way,” he said.

According to Mott, he entered the school through an unlocked maintenance door, found Cliche and asked him to unlock the door to Treece’s classroom room so he could take photographs with his personal camera. Although he was on duty at the time, Mott maintains that he was on a break and wanted to photograph student projects that offended him as an American and a retired military man.

“I wanted everybody else to see what was in that room. You can’t explain it,” he said.

Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto “Che” Guevara, posted on the walls.

“Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted,” he said. “… I’m just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.”

Mott said he took the photographs less than 48 hours after attending a school board meeting at which several residents complained about what they claimed was an attempt to “indoctrinate” not “educate” students.

School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a “thought-provoking” teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives.

“As a teacher he (Treece) does present all sides of an issue,” Anderson said.

Anderson said she was concerned that Mott used his uniform to gain access to a locked classroom after hours without supervision.

“I find this behavior, at the very least, in violation of our policy for visitors at the school,” she wrote in her letter to the police chief. “I also find it disturbing that a police officer would wear his uniform under such circumstances thereby intimidating our employee (Cliche) into letting him in the building at a very unusual hour.”

Anderson said she met with the police chief and the town manager on Friday to discuss her concerns and to reiterate her request for copies of the photographs Mott took and has been circulating in the community. She said Mott had not yet complied with that request, which is based solely on her desire to confirm the photographs were not doctored in any way.

“We’re not embarrassed about what was in that classroom,” she said. “We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.”

Mott said the photographs he took are authentic and accused school officials of “tap-dancing” around an issue that was brought to their attention last month by using the circumstances under which he entered Treece’s classroom as a diversion.

“It leads me to believe they are out witch-hunting,” he said.

Treece said he knows the feeling. He says Mott and his other detractors don’t have a clue about what he does in his classroom, but that hasn’t stopped them from jumping to conclusions based on his personal political views.

“None of these parents know me in any way,” he said. “They just think they know me. Everything they know about me is hearsay. They don’t have kids in my class. They have taken lies and innuendoes and run with them.”

Treece does not hide his personal views and acknowledges his public criticisms of the war in Iraq and President Bush have irked many in the community. However, he said their contention that he is force-feeding his views to Spaulding students is simply wrong.

“I tell kids from day one: ‘I don’t want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves,” he said. “I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.”

Treece said his message to students is simple: “Defend what you believe and if you can’t defend it I’m going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue you’re on.”

Treece said he supplies his students with a broad range of resources and encourages them to use them to come to their own conclusions.

“My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see,” he said.

Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

“I want them to understand that everybody’s got an agenda … everybody,” he said.

Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence – “All hail the idiot boy king” – that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush as a reason to reject the high school budget. The budget is scheduled for a re-vote next week.

“They’re out to get the budget and they’ve made me their whipping boy,” he said.

Treece makes no apologies for how he conducts his classes or for his own political views. In retrospect, he said, the comment he posted about Bush was probably too direct.

The board meets at 7 p.m. in the high school library. Like the Malones, both Mott and Treece said they plan to attend.

“I did not recognize how fragile people’s feelings were at the time,” he said. “It was horrible timing on my part.”

If he had it to do over again, Treece said he would spell out the same sentiments in two pages of text that wouldn’t have offended anyone.

Paul and Norma Malone, the local couple who first took issue with the comment Treece posted on the board, insist they’re not out to scuttle the budget, but want to restore balance in the curriculum at Spaulding.

“Our position has been and still is there should be a balance in that curriculum and respect in that school,” said Paul Malone.

Although the couple’s criticism is not limited to Treece, they admit his comment served as a springboard for their effort.

“It’s not an issue of freedom of speech. That was never the issue,” he said. “It’s an issue of balance and it’s an issue of professionalism.”

Based on discussions with faculty, parents and students, Norma Malone said students from a largely conservative community are being urged to view the world to through a liberal lens.

“There’s nothing from the center or from the right,” she said, rejecting Treece’s comments to the contrary.

The Malones, who have formed the group “Citizens Advocating Responsible Education,” say they plan to attend tonight’s school board meeting and present a copy of a petition signed by several hundred supporters. The petition states in part: “Students must be provided a thorough, factual, unbiased study of the history of our nation, the importance of our government institutions, and the significance of our political traditions so as to engender civic duty and respect for our national values.”

In order to accomplish that goal, the petition suggests revisions to the school’s policy regarding academic freedom and the appointment of community members to the school board’s curriculum committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antibush; blameamericafirst; bushbashing; commies; communists; hateamericafirst; leftwinghategroup; litteredschoolhouse; looneyleft; police; procastro; prodictator; publicschool; redmenace; students; taxdollarsatwork; theredmenace; vermont; youpayforthis
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
True....but sadly, the cockroaches will prevail. I expect the ACLU will take this on - academic freedom, unions, seniority, and every other type of protection that incompetents like this teacher need. He'll be made a hero (ala Larry Flynt), the cop will be fired and cast as a mean southern fat white boy, and they'll make a movie of it all.

Besides, I expect most parents have known all about this all school year. Obviously, they don't give a rip and/or agree with the indoctrination.

I'm not sure why folks even react negatively anymore to these kinds of stories. It's been going on at college level for 50 years and pushed its way into primary, middle, and secondary schools about 30 years ago. I know the only 'outrage' I have left for stories like this is that they do it with my tax dollars, even when I refuse to use their lousy product.

61 posted on 05/06/2003 10:06:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: fml
Good point! I would have to ask what orders the janitor has wrt:allowing people/cops enter the premises. I mean the cop could have been a stalker.. I would have to ask...why the janitor let him in.
62 posted on 05/06/2003 10:06:40 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: fml
The truth has to come out. The teachings and projects are of a public nature. I agree with the cop, this was to only way to get the true content and inform the public.

As far as the brave cop...I'm afraid he's lost his job, etc, but to conservatives, he's a hero. He'll find another town with a conservative mindset and he'll do even better there. Thank you officer.

63 posted on 05/06/2003 10:06:40 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: anniegetyourgun; All
I found the teacher's (Treece) web page at Spaulding High School. I haven't been through it all but it might harbor some clues to this fellow. If nothing else you can always drop him a line and let him know your impressions of world history...

http://www.vita-learn.org/shs/depots/history/treece/treece.html
64 posted on 05/06/2003 10:06:50 AM PDT by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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To: Paulus Invictus
"And you have no problem with leftist teachers indoctrinating students with communist ideologies and posting the photos of Cuban commie leaders while trashing the photo of the president? That's the issue, not the cop."

Did I say that? I did not. As I understand it, these were student-done images, not done by the teacher. I disagree with them, but that does not make them a police matter. You seem to misunderstand some of the rights we have. Freedom of speech does not mean just speech you happen to agree with. If you don't protect freedoms for people with whom you disagree, you have no freedoms yourself.
65 posted on 05/06/2003 10:06:56 AM PDT by MineralMan
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To: anniegetyourgun
Some people are a little slow on the uptake. Maybe this will open some eyes.
66 posted on 05/06/2003 10:08:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
What I meant is from the time he appears in the office, the school staff would scamper behind his back and stall him internally.

It would be five minutes before he got an escort to the classroom. Time enough to strip the walls.
67 posted on 05/06/2003 10:08:40 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's terrible and I hope not! He did what he knew was best at the time... I wish he could have just walked in (unannounced) as an observer during the day and took the pics. ON the other hand..maybe he felt like he wouldn't have been paid attention to if he had??
68 posted on 05/06/2003 10:09:05 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: MineralMan
Then why don't we have prayer in schools? We should, using your logic. A public school is a public place. If people want to put that stuff up, then the public has a right to know about it and determine if that's appropriate for a public place.
69 posted on 05/06/2003 10:09:07 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: anniegetyourgun
Treece said he’s tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone – not the president, their parents, or even he – says at face value.

I have never thought it was a teacher's duty to comment on the parent child relationship.  Treece's admission that he tries to get kids to evaluate what their parent say bothers me.

If the child is supposed to evaluate what their parents say, then it stands to reason they are to listen when they want and do whatever they please the rest of the time. Nice work Treece.

I've seen teachers like this.  They sell themselves as the most reasonable person the children have ever met.  Then they push their agenda.  "I don't care what you believe, just make sure you can defend it."  Most kids think, wow, what a cool dude. This guy is very open and HONEST.  If he thinks the president is a putz, he may be.

If Treece is challenged he simply says, "Hey, I'm just teaching kids to think for themselves."  I would disagree.  He is destroying their beliefs system in order to instill his own.  Can his ass.

You don't have to display things like Treece does, to be effective in the classroom.

As for the officer who took the pictures, I do believe he crossed the line.  One the other hand we'd have never been given access to the despicable carp on Treece's classroom walls if the officer hadn't done what he did.  It's a screwed up system that creates a situation where a person has to use subtrifuge simply to investigate what really goes on inside a child's classroom.

The principle is a good example of why our schools are so screwed up.  Is she concerned with the obvious bias of the teacher?  Nope, she couldn't care less.  What bothers her is that her sacred cow has been gored.  "You can't get away with that on MY campus!"  She should follow Treece's lead to the unemployment line.

70 posted on 05/06/2003 10:09:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: dirtboy
I really don't think that it's a good idea to have a cop use his uniform and his badge to pursue a political agenda

You are not involved in politics at all are you? This has been going on since the beginning of time.
71 posted on 05/06/2003 10:09:19 AM PDT by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: MineralMan
Could you explain the crime that the cop comitted? Taking pictures inside a public school room at night?
72 posted on 05/06/2003 10:10:18 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: George from New England
That's possible..I on the other hand have entered for a variety of reasons and did not announce myself to anyone. Just walk directly to My child's room..see?
73 posted on 05/06/2003 10:10:27 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: George from New England
Absolutely
74 posted on 05/06/2003 10:10:39 AM PDT by fml
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To: anniegetyourgun
"I suspect they are too late".....

You may be right for the vast majority of this generation. But I believe this is not the last of these stories. Parents I believe are going to begin to question what goes on in their childrens schools. Maybe there is hope left...I for one will not take the chance. My son will be schooled at home.
75 posted on 05/06/2003 10:10:40 AM PDT by Ga Rob ("Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid"....The Duke)
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To: George from New England
right when classes are starting is the best.. a lot of commotion and the teacher is usually standing at the door greeting kids and/or parents. Walk in with your child and start taking the pics..no need to announce why either.
76 posted on 05/06/2003 10:11:21 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I wish he could have just walked in (unannounced) as an observer during the day and took the pics.

I don't think the office would have allowed him in the classroom or even then, to take pictures.

77 posted on 05/06/2003 10:11:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: anniegetyourgun
Joe McCarthy was right. Ann Coulter tells why in her new book Treason.
78 posted on 05/06/2003 10:12:29 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I've never announced myself before going to "my child's" room. It's insulting and out of line IMHO.
79 posted on 05/06/2003 10:13:00 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: mewzilla
"Then why don't we have prayer in schools? We should, using your logic. A public school is a public place. If people want to put that stuff up, then the public has a right to know about it and determine if that's appropriate for a public place."

People did know, I assume. The students knew. The stuff was out in the open where anyone entering the classroom could see it.

Prayer is another matter entirely. There are some questions regarding prayer in the classroom that are constitutional issues.

Being a leftist, however loathsome that is, is not a crime in the USA. Posting student images that ridicule a President is not a crime in the USA, nor is posting pictures of Castro or anyone else.

The police are about crimes; they are not a political force. Unless some crime has been committed, where is the police's legitimacy in this matter. Obviously the police can come into the school...during school hours. Why was it necessary to sneak around?

Now, suppose the police had snuck into the mayor's office, after being let in by the custodian, rifled through his drawers and found some evidence that the mayor reads Playboy Magazine, for example. Again, no crime. Again, a public building. Again, the cop would have done wrong.

Speech we do not like is protected by the First Amendment.
80 posted on 05/06/2003 10:13:33 AM PDT by MineralMan
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