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Religion taboo topic [City sued over policy restricting passengers' speech]
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 5-03-03 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 05/03/2003 12:53:15 PM PDT by Salvation

Religion taboo topic
on public bus

City sued over policy restricting passengers' speech


Posted: May 3, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Diana Lynne
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

If you're planning to ride public transportation in Broken Arrow, Okla., you better bring a book, because striking up a conversation with someone might land you curbside.

The Broken Arrow Bus Service, or BABS, regulates the behavior of its passengers, forbidding them from eating, drinking, fighting or using vulgar language while on the bus.

On its website the city lists these "safety rules," but fails to mention a public-speech policy that is actively enforced.

Regular passengers Vincenza Siano and her daughter, Lucretia Bacon, were handed a copy of the policy last month. It states: "No public speech will be allowed on the bus, which may include but is not necessarily limited to religion, politics, economics or finance."

Passengers who break the rules face "removal."

The bus, which is actually an 11-passenger van, is the only form of public transportation in the city and deals primarily with handicapped and low-income residents in need of regular transportation.

Siano and Bacon typically ride the bus two to three times a week. They're accustomed to discussing a wide range of topics including their religious faith. But after learning about the policy they ceased talking out of fear of being tossed.

While they may be silent on the bus, the two are speaking out against the restrictive policy in court. The American Center for Law and Justice, an international public interest law firm, filed a federal lawsuit Thursday on their behalf challenging it.

"This is a policy that chills free speech and violates the constitutional rights of passengers," said Francis J. Manion, senior counsel of the law center. "While it is proper for the city to ensure that public transportation is safe and secure for its citizens, it cannot censor the speech of passengers simply because that speech is religious in nature."

The suit contends the policy is unconstitutional and violates the First and 14th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. It asks the federal court to declare the public-speech provision of the policy unconstitutional and grant an injunction to prevent it from being enforced.

"I think they sued the wrong people and they don't understand what the policy intends to do," city attorney Michael Vanderburg told WorldNetDaily.

Vanderburg explained the city contracts with the Gateway Foundation, a local charity, to run the bus service. He said the charity picks the bus and drivers and provides maintenance for an annual flat rate. The city controls the rates charged and the hours of operation.

As for the public-speech policy, Vanderburg said he didn't know anything about it until he started getting calls from the media.

"We didn't adopt the policy, and we don't enforce it," he said.

Although he has yet to see the wording of the policy, Vanderburg said it was "intended and interpreted to prevent the bus from becoming a public forum" by riders seeking to hold fellow passengers captive to political speeches. He stresses it wasn't intended to stifle private conversations held in a normal tone of voice.

Vanderburg said the city will be defending itself on that basis.


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Diana Lynne is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: aclj; amuck; brokenarrow; bus; freespeech; oklahoma
Free speech Ping to all!
1 posted on 05/03/2003 12:53:16 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: All
** It states: "No public speech will be allowed on the bus, which may include but is not necessarily limited to religion, politics, economics or finance."**

So what can they talk about? I guess the weather might be safe......................but don't talk about the thunderstorm or rain that God just brought to Oklahoma. </sarcasm off
2 posted on 05/03/2003 12:54:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**"This is a policy that chills free speech and violates the constitutional rights of passengers," said Francis J. Manion, senior counsel of the law center.**

And they will win in a lawsuit against the city and their busing rules!
3 posted on 05/03/2003 12:57:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Every person who is elected to a government position or serves in a position of public trust should have to go through a course on the Bill of Rights as a pre-requisite for their employment.

We have too many school officials and local officials who don't have even the basic fundamental understanding of what we stand for.

Such a course would save us the hassles and would save these officials the embarassment that inevitably follows.
4 posted on 05/03/2003 1:03:03 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
**Every person who is elected to a government position or serves in a position of public trust should have to go through a course on the Bill of Rights as a pre-requisite for their employment.

We have too many school officials and local officials who don't have even the basic fundamental understanding of what we stand for.**

Ditto that!
5 posted on 05/03/2003 1:05:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
"No public speech will be allowed on the bus,

Maybe they mean no "peaceniks" screaming in you ear on the bus?

6 posted on 05/03/2003 1:08:48 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Mister Baredog
Could be, but if I am on that bus, aren't I a member of the 'public'?
7 posted on 05/03/2003 1:12:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Could be, but if I am on that bus, aren't I a member of the 'public'?

I'm thinking that when one thinks of "public speaking" it usually means a speech, rather than a conversation.

8 posted on 05/03/2003 1:35:36 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Salvation
limited to religion, politics, economics or finance

So, that leaves what? sex?

9 posted on 05/03/2003 1:47:37 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Salvation
bump
10 posted on 05/03/2003 2:21:37 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Mister Baredog
Indubitably. City attorney Michael Vanderburg seems to be the only participent here with any sense.

OK, the American Center for Law and Justice probably realizes what the policy really states, but they seem to be scum sucking bottom feeders on a par with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

11 posted on 05/03/2003 5:08:35 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:The Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Salvation
      This is the same municipality that, after 9/11, ordered the firemen to remove "God Bless America" signs from the fire stations.
12 posted on 05/03/2003 7:24:15 PM PDT by Celtman
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To: Oztrich Boy
You are dead wrong about ACLJ. They have won many cases before the US Supreme Court to protect freedom of religion and freedom of speech, etc. Very highly esteemed and has been a champion of freedom especially for students. It's the only legal organization that causes ACLU to pack up and go away when they enter the fight.
13 posted on 05/03/2003 8:17:51 PM PDT by maranatha
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