[Varmint Al]

Please help with your letters. I have heard that they have changed the bill so that it is a "fee" instead of a tax so it will only take a majority vote to pass.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

[Travis McGee]

Bang

[RightWhale]

What about the $10 brick of 22 ammo?

[dufekin]

Well, I'll start. To be free to tax is to be free to tax to death. Or so the Supreme Court ruled in McCulloch v. Maryland (17 U.S. 316, 1816).

So, California's already taxing the Second Amendment. When will it start taxing the First, or the Third, or the Thirteenth? They can't tax rights, and that should be that. To be able to tax the right of gun owners to do something useful with their guns is the right to tax it to death. Unacceptable. Unconstitutional.

[NetValue]

A check payable to California for $0.50 will cost the state about $18.00 to process. 'Nuf said?

[CurlyDave]

Last year they tried a $0.05 per bullet tax and couldn't pass it. Now they are back with $0.10.

Does anyone know if it is $0.10 per loaded round, or $0.10 per bullet? No newspaper reporter in the world knows the difference between a round and a bullet.

Handloading could become very popular.

What about .22s? A 500 round brick which is now ~$10.00 could go to $75.00 with this new tax.

[Gary Boldwater]

I propose making all civil servants of California TRUE civil servants by cutting each of their salaries to $1.00 per year. It's for the public good you know!

[Carry_Okie]

I wonder if they'll try to make it retroactive on all ammo one already owns, seeing as it's a use fee.

One problem, if it's a use fee, shouldn't I pay only when I use it? Is ammo being "used" when it's in a box or when it's being discharged? How then can they legally charge a use fee on assembly components? Sounds like they could be dipping their weenies into a deep legal problem to me because if they claim that they must collect a use fee at the point of sale, it becomes a sales tax requiring a 2/3 vote.

[lowbridge]

bump

[Tailback]

Internet ammo sales will skyrocket.

[Nix 2]

When I lived in CA, you could buy anything you wanted in any parking lot out of the trunk of someone's car, including their grandmothers for a nickle. 'Course they gotta know ya.....or at least think they do.

[boris]

You can buy over the internet or by phone, fax, mail, carrier pigeon, smoke signal, and CA cannot tax it (yet).

The real purpose is to take another step toward driving gun dealers out of business--because they sell ammo, too.

Try Cascade Ammunition

--Boris

[backhoe]

Then there's this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/905171/posts
48 Hours in the California Legislative System (A Descent into Madness
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | May 3, 2003 | Michael Marks
...there will be a mass exodus. Currently they're busy attacking businesses large and small, not just firearms.

[FreedomCalls]

Remember the "Stamp Act"? In 1765 the British Parliament imposed a tax on every sheet of paper someone used. It was an attempt by the British to impose a tax the purpose of which was to suppress the free speech rights of the American people by imposing an onerous tax on newspapers, legal documents, and so forth. This bill in California is an attempt to suppress the right to keep and bear arms by imposing an onerous tax on each bullet. The Stamp Act was one event of several the combined together made us so mad that we kicked the British out of America for good. This does not bode well for California liberals. I can imagine that there are chickens being plucked and pots of tar being warmed up even as you read this.

[wcbtinman]

Is it time Yet? Now???

Where will Kalifornians draw the line?

[Southack]

Are California police departments exempt from this fee?

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

Do like they have with cigarettes in the northeast,go to another state and buy in bulk.

[Sparta]

The people of Baghdad have more firearms freedom than the Democratic People's Republik of Kaliforniastan.

[supercat]

Please help with your letters. I have heard that they have changed the bill so that it is a "fee" instead of a tax so it will only take a majority vote to pass.

Note also Article I section 9: No tax or duty shall be laid on articles exported from any state.

[Varmint Al]

I have noted that some of the posters have proposed solutions that are less than legal. I would not even consider using these options. As a gun owner, I will follow the law, even though it is stupid. The only way I would violate the law would be with a "test case" and with the intent to take it to court to challenge the law. Is not our justice system setup so that it requires a violation of a law for it to be tested in court? Please correct me if I am wrong.

As it is, legal gun owners are required to be meticulous in following the law, lest they lose their Gun Rights altogether. And I intend to remain a legal gun owner.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

[montag813]

So what? Just get yer ammo out of state.