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"I have been amazed by the label of conspiracy-mongering around neocons," David Brooks, an editor at the Weekly Standard, tells the Observer. "I get it every day the 'evil Jewish conspiracy.' The only distinction between 'neoconservative' and 'conservative' this way is circumcision. We actually started to call it the Axis of Circumcision."
Blame the cranks bottom-feeding in the fever swamps of paleo-conservatism.
If not for conspiracy-theory nitwittery they would have no purpose in life.
1 posted on
05/03/2003 8:44:59 AM PDT by
quidnunc
To: quidnunc
neo·con·ser·va·tive
Pronunciation: -k&n-'s&r-v&-tiv
Function: noun
Date: 1952
: a former liberal espousing political conservatism
- neo·con·ser·va·tism /-v&-"ti-z&m/ noun
- neoconservative adjective
2 posted on
05/03/2003 8:49:11 AM PDT by
abnegation
(Daschle makes any sane person ill.)
To: quidnunc
"The term, however, is disingenuously bandied about at dinner tables and policy meetings in London and Paris and elsewhere, where it is colorfully coded to suggest a Jewish conspiracy working on the White House. "May this truth be called out for exactly what it is = anti-semitism.
To: quidnunc
But "paleocon" should not be a term of opprobrium. To me, it's always been "the" conservative movement -- Buckley's National Review, the Goldwater movement, Reagan (who was conservative long before the neo-cons awoke from 60s liberalism). And those are all good guys. If the "old" version of conservatism is getting a bad name, we have a severe semantic problem.
11 posted on
05/03/2003 9:13:55 AM PDT by
T'wit
To: quidnunc
If people want to label me a "neocon" I'd wear that label proudly. Neocons are people who reacted to 9/11 with horror, and a resolve that it never happen again.
On the other hand, it seemed to me that paleocons were people who reacted to the atrocity with almost a sense of cheerfulness, a "we had it coming" smugness--again, I point to Justin Raimondo's posts here that afternoon.
100% Aryan here, by the way.
To: quidnunc
"Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow conservative"
--Regans Law
15 posted on
05/03/2003 9:24:17 AM PDT by
ChadGore
(Freedom is as natural as a drawn breath.)
To: quidnunc
I knew that the author was going to accuse anyone who dared used this word of being a Jew hater. He is yet another Al Sharpton of the right getting in the gutter because he sees a racist...err anti-semite....under every bed.
To: quidnunc
I am not quite sure why anyone would post an article, such as this, which from its first paragraph is little more than a demonstration of superficiality:
Politics is all about polarities. Republican vs. Democrat, conservative vs. liberal, right vs. left, hard thinking vs. soft thinking. The labels are pervasive, but the ground frequently shifts, requiring a new prefix to freshen up the label.
Politics does sometimes involved polarities, but that is not the typical situation. It is more likely to involve personalities and rival groups of office seekers. There are very few real clashes of basic principle in most contested races. Indeed, at the Federal level, there is an almost frenzied battle for the middle of the road; an almost desperate shunning of real polarity. And this is not something new. We tend to over-estimate the clashes that have occurred historically, because they stand out, and history tends to flatten out perceptions. But just look at the level and nature of debate in most local elections. It is not polarities, it is exposure and personality.
I only bother to comment, because this posting has brought out another pointless battle over newspeak terminology, rather than any serious intellectual issue. It serves to dumb down discussion over the course we should follow, and lends support to those who see a difference of opinion as a reason to smear the motivations of their foes.
William Flax
82 posted on
05/03/2003 10:11:50 AM PDT by
Ohioan
To: quidnunc
bump for l8r
92 posted on
05/03/2003 10:25:57 AM PDT by
Cacique
To: quidnunc
I have always believed that a neocon is someone that puts their little political party before country. At any cost, no matter what *their* politician says, he is right! No matter what issues their party supports or ignores, they are right in doing so! Party before country.
That is my definition of a neocon
To: quidnunc
This is a very well-written and much-needed article. Not that those who need to read and understand it will do so.
To: quidnunc
Oh, geez..
Where's MHking's graphic when you really need it?
111 posted on
05/03/2003 11:14:41 AM PDT by
Jhoffa_
(Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
To: quidnunc
"NeoCon" is simply democrat code for the "FJB," routinely screamed by the shrill, chalk-on-the-blackboard Hillary on any and all occasions.
To: quidnunc
This has confused me for some time and this article helped a little.
Can someone list 5 or 6 well known neocons. Perhaps some examples will help.
163 posted on
05/03/2003 8:38:22 PM PDT by
upchuck
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To: quidnunc
The term NEO in the liberal lexicon, is first associated with the term NEO NAZI. To use it in the term NEO CONSERVATIVE or NEO CON is to associate conservatives with an opportune labeling. NEO CON get rapped up in the historic arguement of its exact definition while liberals and the liberal media, collect dividends from the legions of mindless idiots. Liberals effectivley use the term as yet another tool of leverage to divide the minority races and the conservative movement.
188 posted on
05/03/2003 10:04:30 PM PDT by
Porterville
(Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
To: quidnunc
*Bump*
245 posted on
05/05/2003 10:05:08 AM PDT by
ItsOurTimeNow
(too tired to think of one right now...)
To: quidnunc; JustPiper
Neocon... wouldn't that be like Scott Peterson?
256 posted on
05/05/2003 10:58:07 AM PDT by
unspun
(Somebody knows all about it.)
To: quidnunc
Very good article. It helps to keep repeating the truth, because, for sure, the big lies will be repeated endlessly. The rock-solid foundations of conservatism....private property ownership protection, lower taxes, family values....these will be demonized, as well as conservatives, in countless ways by the chattering classes.
262 posted on
05/05/2003 12:01:11 PM PDT by
WaterDragon
(Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in the 21st Century.)
To: nutmeg
bump
293 posted on
05/07/2003 5:41:21 PM PDT by
nutmeg
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