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Lucifer, The First Liberal
The Wanderer ^ | March 6, 2002 | Dr. Arthur M. Hippler

Posted on 05/01/2003 12:23:02 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner

In his encyclical on The Nature of True Liberty (Libertas Praestantissimum), Leo XIII makes the remarkable claim that liberalism is diabolic in its origins. "But many there are who follow in the footsteps of Lucifer, and adopt as their own his rebellious cry, I will not serve; and consequently substitute for true liberty what is sheer and most foolish license. Such, for instance, are the men belonging to that widely spread and powerful organization, who, usurping the name of liberty, style themselves liberals" (Libertas Praestantissimum, n.14). Although the Holy Father’s comparison may seem hyperbolic, nonetheless the principles of liberalism mirror the Devil’s original revolt.

While many political opinions and projects are lumped together under the name of liberalism, we should remind ourselves of its most fundamental basis. As Leo XIII explains, liberalism begins with the rejection of both natural and divine law; the "followers of liberalism deny the existence of any divine authority to which obedience is due, and proclaim that every man is the law to himself; from which arises that ethical system which they style independent morality" (LP, n.15). Morality comes neither from God nor human nature.

For the liberal, morality is created by the free choice of society. Whether one studies Hobbes or Rousseau, one finds no law higher than the human law. In the words of Pope Leo, "just as every man’s individual reason is his only rule of life, so the collective reason of the community should be the supreme guide in the management of all public affairs" (ibid.). This divorce of the moral law from politics affects our understanding of democracy up to the present day, as Pope John Paul notes in Evangelium Vitae (n. 70).

This rejection of God’s rule through the moral law is the sin of Lucifer. As St. Thomas explains, the Devil rejected the law of God for a disordered form of freedom: "The end of the Devil is the aversion of the rational creature from God; hence from the beginning he has endeavored to lead man from obeying the divine precept. But aversion from God has the nature of an end, inasmuch as it is sought for under the appearance of liberty, according to Jer. 2:20: ‘Of old time thou hast broken my yoke, thou hast burst my bands, and thou saidst, I will not serve’" (IIIa, Q.8, art.7).

This rebellion was imitated by our first parents, when they decided to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of God and Evil, and "be like God." While sharing in the divine image and likeness is part of our perfection, St. Thomas teaches that man desired this divine likeness in a disordered way by eating of the forbidden fruit: "The first man sinned chiefly by coveting God’s likeness as regards knowledge of good and evil, according to the serpent’s instigation, namely that by his own natural power he might decide what was good, and what was evil for him to do" (IIaIIae, Q.163, a.2). Here is the liberal principle in its first expression: Man alone should decide good and evil apart from God.

While many understand liberalism as a freedom for certain political equality and civil rights, more fundamentally liberalism is a freedom from the moral law and the teaching authority of the Church. One cannot speak of "Catholic liberals" without contradiction, or at the very least, equivocation. Liberalism, like socialism and Communism, has been condemned by Pope after Pope in the social encyclicals. If we are tempted to minimize the evils of this error, we would do well to remind ourselves that Pope Leo XIII presents Lucifer to us as the original liberal.

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(Dr. Arthur M. Hippler is the director of the Office of Justice and Peace in the Diocese of La Crosse, Wis.)


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To: BraveMan
Respectfully, I don't think it is wise to give opposition bucketfuls of ammunition like this.

Agreed.

Won't this thread look great when quoted or linked from DU?

61 posted on 05/01/2003 5:23:05 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: OPS4
Ok here is a new thought for you. If you want to live in a country without freedoms leave. This is America and freedom is what makes it great.

God Bless you, and help you to learn the Truth.
62 posted on 05/01/2003 5:28:48 PM PDT by Theyknow
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To: joesnuffy; Theyknow
Excellent analogy of the subject. Perhaps theyknow you will be more comfortable with this?
64 posted on 05/01/2003 5:46:59 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Theyknow
The fact that faith or the lack of it is tolerated I wouldn't say faith is very tolerated and certainly not "celebrated" (for the most part).

There are two equal evils regarding the relationship of church and state:

1. Forcing a particular belief

2. Banning a particular belief. (This is the part the left misses.)

Our Founders saw religion as good and essential. That's why they wanted to protect it above all. They also wanted citizens to be free to choose a religion according to their own conscience. They then wanted all people to have an equal voice in gov't, regardless of their religion.

In other words, religion provided the moral compass of a free people. They saw that as essential.

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles." -Patrick Henry

"[I]f we and our posterity reject religious instruction and authority, violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us, that shall bury all our glory in profound obscurity." -Daniel Webster

65 posted on 05/01/2003 7:05:05 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Theyknow
Quotes by Thomas Paine in is 1776 pamphlet, Common Sense.

The conferring members being met, let their business be to frame a Continental Charter,.....securing freedom and property to all men, and above all things, the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; with such other matter as it is necessary for a charter to contain.

Another:

But where, say some, is the king of America? I'll tell you, friend, he reigns above, and doth not make havoc of mankind like the royal brute of Britain. Yet that we may not appear to be defective even in earthly honors, let a day be solemnly set apart for proclaiming the charter; let it be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. For as in absolute governments the king is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other. But lest any ill use should afterwards arise, let the crown at the conclusion of the ceremony be demolished, and scattered among the people whose right it is.

One more:

Freedom hath been haunted round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her. Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! receive the fugitive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind.

66 posted on 05/01/2003 7:15:31 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
As with Lucifer, liberals mix lies with truth, attempting to make what is ultimately evil sound like something good. Abortion is a prime example. The jargon about defending "the right to choose," etc. Killing a baby is called "pro-choice."

Liberals obviously on some level recognize that they are on Satan's team because they skip no opportunity to attack Christianity, to try to remove Christian symbols and language from public visibility, and to heap ridicule and slander on sincere Christians. The demonic nature of modern secular liberalism becomes more apparent with each passing year. "Sympathy for the Devil" ought to replace the National Anthem and "God Bless America" at Democratic Presidential Conventions. They are working from his playbook.

67 posted on 05/01/2003 7:19:24 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Here is the liberal principle in its first expression: Man alone should decide good and evil apart from God.

Like it or not, man has no choice but to do exactly that. When one person (e.g. Mother Theresa) says that God wants you to help the poor and another person (e.g. Osama bin Laden) says that God wants you to slay the infidel, you must fall back upon your own reason to decide which of these assertions (if either) is a worthwhile guide to behavior.

68 posted on 05/01/2003 7:29:41 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: B-Chan
How prolix. Orwell managed to fit your whole post into three words.
69 posted on 05/01/2003 7:31:18 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Hey, don't take my word for it.
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

-Romans 13:1-7 RSV

The truth seems plain enough to me.
70 posted on 05/01/2003 7:51:07 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: steve-b
Like it or not, man has no choice but to do exactly that. When one person (e.g. Mother Theresa) says that God wants you to help the poor and another person (e.g. Osama bin Laden) says that God wants you to slay the infidel, you must fall back upon your own reason to decide which of these assertions (if either) is a worthwhile guide to behavior.

By what standards shall we make such "reasoned" judgements of value?

71 posted on 05/01/2003 7:52:31 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Read Later
72 posted on 05/01/2003 7:53:40 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: okiesap
Interesting that the devil was known as the "Light Bringer."

Indeed...quite curious, that. Makes one wonder at the origins of the story; the ancient Greek legend of Prometheus comes to mind, he was punished for stealing fire from Olympus and bringing it down for mankind's use.

Snidely

73 posted on 05/01/2003 9:33:10 PM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Bump
74 posted on 05/02/2003 12:52:36 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: windcliff
Lightbringer.

Hmm....

The subtlety of evil.

75 posted on 05/02/2003 12:58:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
"Lightbringer.

Hmm....

The subtlety of evil. "

"Light Bringer" was God's name for Satan when He created him. That was Satan's mission and goal, to bring light, ie God, to the rest of creation.

When Satan rebelled, God changed his name to fit his chosen character.
76 posted on 05/02/2003 5:49:18 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (All generalities are false, including this one.)
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To: RAT Patrol
"Amendment I"

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "


Because it was so very critical to the formation of the new government the founding fathers made the prohibition against the establishment of a state religion the first statement in the first Amendment of the Bill of Rights. The deliberations you cite are important to learn of there reasoning but the ultimate decision was to allow the citizens FREEDOM of religious choice. There is no state religion in the USA because the constitution prohibits it, unambiguously. The reason you are unable to give an example of a LAW that establishes or prohibits a certain faith is because it does not exist. It does not exist because the founding father’s realized that it would doom the new nation.

If you want a country with a State religion move to Syria or Iran, those countries are certain that they have a lock on God’s will. How about prewar Afghanistan? They also knew just as surly as you do what God wants.

Freedom is what makes America great, individual choice in how to worship is critical to that freedom.
77 posted on 05/02/2003 6:19:31 AM PDT by Theyknow
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To: OPS4
"This has been a problem since the day the serpent lured Eve!"

lured - Paul says "holy seduced"

Don't forget that Adam participated.

Ever consider why Christ would tell Peter to "fish" out of the "RIGHT" side.

JOHN 21:6 And He (Christ) said unto the, "CAST the net on the RIGHT side of the ship, and ye shall find." They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.

Matthew 4:18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethern, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.

v 19, And He saith unto them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of Men."
78 posted on 05/02/2003 6:40:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Are you saying that Jesus was anticipating right wing politics in this example? You think Jesus cares at all about taxes on dividends? God gave us free will, don’t you understand? God does not support a particular political party! Get a grip, all of you! Come to your senses! Do you realize how dangerous you sound? This is a free country, embrace it!
79 posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:34 AM PDT by Theyknow
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To: Theyknow; Just mythoughts; Snidely Whiplash
I doubt God registers Republican, but the use of the word "Right" is an interesting symbolism. In addition to fishing to the RIGHT of the boat, Jesus also sits to the "RIGHT" of God.

A significant symbolic parallel: God commands Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. Abraham proves his loyalty and Isaac is spared. God shows He is willing to go as far as man plus a step further by sacrificing His son for the descendents of Abraham. A cosmic poker game?

Here's a chauvenistic interpretation: Note that the devil first targets Eve for temptation. Note the differences in voting among the genders during the last 3 Presidential elections. Without the female vote, Dole would have won in '96. How's that for politically incorrect?
80 posted on 05/02/2003 8:18:38 AM PDT by okiesap
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