Posted on 04/25/2003 9:39:08 PM PDT by Hipixs
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
WASHINGTON (CNN) --Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld demanded U.S. Army Secretary Tom White step down Friday, a senior Pentagon official said, a move that follows two years of contention between the two.
The official said Rumsfeld called White into his office and demanded his resignation, which White provided.
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As far as I can tell, White resigned. That Rummy asked him to is speculation. My point holds.
Finally some good solid truth.
It was also one of the most lopsided confrontations in military history, on a par with Grenada, or Panama.
Sorry, 68skylark, but facts is facts.
Iraq was totally outclassed by the most powerful, most advanced military coalition in history.
It didn't really put up much of a fight. It has shown more resistance after the actual war, in the form of hit and run guerrilla tactics and terrorist attacks than the formal military did.
The Government Leaders deserted, followed closely by the military leaders, leaving a ground force with outdated and poorly maintained equipment and forcibly drafted, untrained soldiers and no air support to fight us.
Sorry, justshe, you can call it a brilliant military victory if you want, but it was only due to the fact there was very little to no resistance.
IMHO, concerted study will find uses for some of the tactics that were used, but just as many serious strategic and tactical mistakes were made as well.
It was part choice, partly luck that we met such an inferior force in combat, that those mistakes were not exploited, resulting in real damage to the campaign and massive casualties to our forces.
Sorry, Fred Mertz, but Rummy's not an idiot.
Like the president, he kept his nose out of the war part, and just made sure he had the right people running it, and also, making sure this was not a military branch competition, but a cooperative effort.
Likewise, he had to deal with congress, the media, and hew to the requirements set forth by the president, while dealing with a decidedly antagonistic state department.
I think Rummy has done a pretty good job, but it was made much easier by Iraq's lack of resistance.
A quick and decisive victory makes everyone look good.
I hope it never happens, but I withhold judgement as to the total outcome until we meet a serious opponent.
North Korea may be next, or Syria, or we may find ourselves in a real test, like mainland China.(response to a N.Korean campaign)
Make no mistake, I supported this war, and not just for the politically expedient reasons stated by the administration.
I knew the WMD argument might be hard to prove.
If I had been Saddam, I would have totally committed the nation to verification, and been cleared by weapons inspectors as early as 1993-4.
Once cleared, I would have been free to use ALL my un-sanctioned oil reserves for rebuilding my military and re-consolidating my power in the middle east.
But Saddam was (is?) a megalomaniac, and unable to think rationally.
I wanted Saddam out because he was (is?) EVIL.
A sadistic, murderous bastard with no right to live.
An aspiring Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, etc.. SCUM.
That was all the reason I need(ed) to remove him. (with prejudice.)
Likewise other SCUM that keep their "subjects" in a living hell. ( N.Korea, Zimbabwe just two examples )
Anyway, just my thoughts on your "debate" concerning Rummy and the war.
Not all as great as some of you made it out to be, but not as bad either.
As I say, I've yet to hear any active duty military person who has anything but highest praise for Rummy, and if the troops think he's doing a great job, that means a lot more to me than someone on a web forum saying he's an idiot.
Is that another name for a Scotsman?
We were present for the whole war in living color and you expect anyone to believe it was anything but brilliant?
yitbos
Ignore. I know there are a great number of ego driven old gaurd in the Pentagon who hates this reformer, not to mention Congressman on both sides of the aisle. I've read of GOPers who opening whine that he doesn't respect them enough.
Long story short, I've never said this before; this is the single worst arguement I've ever been in on FR. Talk about a lack of supported opinion. Yes, ignore.
Yes he is.
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