Posted on 04/22/2003 12:41:35 AM PDT by U.S.Zorro
We Hold These Truths to be Self-Evident By: Chris Tremoglie
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
This is the First Amendment of the Constitution. As we all know it entitles us Americans to certain liberties and freedoms that are not granted to other people around the world. This is an Amendment for ALL Americans - even government and legislative officials. So when Rick Santorum makes a comment about homosexuals and he gets asked to resign because of them, I ask you, where is the Freedom of Speech? Similar to the attacks on Reggie White several years ago for comments depicting homosexuality as a sin in certain religions, the same unwarranted attacks have befallen on Mr. Santorum. Again, I reiterate, don't all Americans have Freedom of Speech? Unless words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create clear and present danger Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes ruled in (Schenk v. United States) 1919, all Americans are entitled to freedom of speech. That is unless the topic or speech of homosexuality. It seems people are allowed to be pro-homosexual but if someone raises thought or feelings against homosexuality, or dare I say anti-homosexuality, one is castrated and targeted as an enemy and thus apparently loses all their constitutional freedoms. It will make the most non-violent peacenik turn downright ugly. Pardon me a second while I put on my Eminem CD. May I have your attention please: will the real homosexuals please stand up? Contrary to what people over at GLAAD may believe, people are entitled to be anti-homosexual. As I recall, homosexuality is a sin in the bible and therefore by expressing sentiment AGAINST homosexuality, one is doing nothing wrong. It seems as if just being accepted is not enough. The homosexual population now wants special consideration to wipe out freedom of speech and religion if it is against them. The people at GLAAD want it to be okay to stand and shout, Hey, I am a homosexual but want to hush those who say Hey, I am a heterosexual and proud of it. With all of the current events recently, I did not know our First Amendment privileges had been altered to say only positive things about everything. I didnt realize that a Marxist utopia overtook our capitalist Republic. Our country has not changed and our principles have stood. Our country was founded as a Judeo-Christian country and since its inception, has expanded to include many different religions. In one religion, adultery is a sin. In another religion, not facing Mecca to pray daily is a sin. In another religion, eating pork is a sin. And in another religion, homosexuality IS a sin. As it says on their web page, The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) is dedicated to promoting and ensuring fair, accurate and inclusive representation of people and events in the media as a means of eliminating homophobia and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation. This is all well and good no matter how many people disagree or agree with homosexuality. When a United States Senator is asked to resign because he is adhering to his religion that is wrong. When a Pro-Football Hall of Famer is criticized for doing nothing more then speaking his mind, giving his constitutionally protected opinions, and abiding by his religion, it is reverse discrimination in its NASTIEST form. A homosexual is a human just like everyone else and is entitled to the same unalienable rights as everyone else. However, to expect everyone to like and promote homosexuality even when it goes against religious principles, that is where the line MUST be drawn. Promoting equality yes; promoting homosexual ADVANCEMENT no!
You could add bestiality,pedophilia and other deviant behavior to his point of,"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything,"
Where does it stop? At one time gay sex and adultery was considered unacceptable in society. I shudder to think that as the years go by, our grandchildren's society will find pedophilia acceptable because some lawyer was successful in arguing that it is private behavior when done in private.
Santorum should have been clearer that society,based upon morals and beliefs, needs to reject behavior it deems unacceptable, not the government.
Make that: I will never -agree- with any provision of law that invites the government onto my property without just cause. :^P
Well, you are not exactly correct on your assessment of what he said. If we are going to take him to task for what he said, it should be done accurately. It appears to me that he is equating sodomy with bigamy and polygamy, not with adultery as you state.
big·a·my n. The criminal offense of marrying one person while still legally married to another.
po·lyg·a·my n. The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time.
Your argument is not supported by what Santorum actually said and the definitions above. Of course you are not suggesting that bigamy and polygamy should be legal?
As for consensual sex between two adults of the same sex, it is a matter of drawing a line. Prostitution, should it be illegal? Homosexuality, should it be illegal? On the later, we have crossed a societal line. Homosexuality its practice, not just about it - is taught in schools.
On adultry, we crossed the line a long time ago and on prostitution, one state, Nevada, crossed it quite some time ago.
That said, I understand what you are trying to say, that homosexuality between two consenting adults should not be illegal. Im inclined to agree with you.
Santorum's position seems to be that homosexuality should be illegal and on that I would disagree with him. We already crossed that line and I don't see as how we can, or should go back.
Santorum is not "over the top" to have said it though. Roughly half the country will agree with him.
No they aren't! Somebody makes a complaint about it, and you enforce the law. The police would have no cause to snoop in anybody's house without a warrant to begin with.
Example, two sodomites buy a house next to yours and open up a "private" homosexual/S&M sex palace - just the environment you want next door to where your kids play. Right? Finding out what is going on there, you can file a complaint against the owners and have them convicted if the evidence is sufficient. Or a wife discovers her husband is off having homosexual sex on the side. Not only can she divorce him, but she should be able to have him imprisoned and fined, and he could lose any hope of visitation rights to his children. Treatment of adultery and other crimes against the marital contract should follow a similar procedure.
Nobody's freedom has been violated unless you think freedom includes fredom to sin.
Its a sick country that protects the freedom of homos and adulterers to be perverts and spread deadly contagious diseases, but refuses to uphold a clean and wholesome environment for children to live in.
Adultery IS illegal in many states.
Adulterers are not "private couples". They are people breaking a contract and sacred bond that is the basis of civilization. They should be punished.
Why don't religious conservatives focus on the more concrete threats to our social structure, such as gay marriage and adoption? I may be unpopular with my gay friends for suggesting this, but it's in their interest.
If sodomite conduct was still punished by penal sanctions like it should be, we wouldn't be having debates about fag adoption and fag marriages.
The government should stay out of the business of moderating people's consensual sex lives.
No, the stability and health of society requires it to get involved. This is why we have laws criminalizing statutory rape, prostitution, adultery, and sodomy. These laws promote healthy families and healthy people. There would not be a plague of AIDS, gonorhea, HPV, syphillis, herpes, genital warts and lice, etc. if it were not for people comitting these crimes.
We don't live in an Islamic state, and I, for one, don't want to.
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