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In battle to block spam, two products stand out
The Boston Globe ^ | 4/21/2003 | Hiawatha Bray

Posted on 04/21/2003 4:44:43 PM PDT by Radix

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:09:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

So much for the Republican Guard. Now if we could just figure out a way to defeat the junk e-mailers. Obviously, we can't shoot spammers. And Congress has yet to pass a bill to outlaw these vile and annoying messages. It's not even clear that such a law would be enforceable; so much of the filth comes from outside the United States these days.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: email; filters; spam
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Spammers are relentless in their efforts to beat filtering.

An Industry is born.

1 posted on 04/21/2003 4:44:44 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix
And Congress has yet to pass a bill to outlaw these vile and annoying messages.

I'd prefer those b*a*s*t*a*r*d*s* stay away from the internet.

2 posted on 04/21/2003 4:50:20 PM PDT by Nephi (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Radix
 Spam Arrest 
Description: Spam Arrest, your starting point for stopping spam. Unlike other anti-spam solutions, Spam Arrest quickly and easily blocks spam before it ever gets to your inbox — no matter how the spam is disguised or where it comes from.

Common Sense Security Guide (pdf) 
Description: The Electronic Industries Alliance has produced the “Common Sense Guide for Home and Individual Users”
This 26-page guide to safe-computing strategies has the support of government agencies and industry leaders.

3 posted on 04/21/2003 4:52:33 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Radix
I have a project for a geek. . .

How about am application that checks every incoming mail to see if it will accept replies. If not, it is deleted before downloading.

Who does business with a company that won't accpt replies to their email?? ARGH!

4 posted on 04/21/2003 4:54:13 PM PDT by Flyer ()()()()()()()()
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To: Nephi
This is a funny animated message (Requires MacroMedia Flash):

Stop SPAM & Junk Mail 
Description: Send this to ALL your friends! Get $5 for every Forwarded Letter!! Save Lil Lulu from the mange.
Bill Gates Loves you and want to give you his Billion$!
Do you get these emails and more?
If so, simply hit REPLY and send them this link!

5 posted on 04/21/2003 4:55:13 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Radix
Obviously, we can't shoot spammers.

Why the hell not?

6 posted on 04/21/2003 4:56:44 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Radix
Been using Spamnet for months. It ain't gonna be free much longer.
7 posted on 04/21/2003 4:59:11 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Radix
One of the most effective ways to block spam is to 'bounce it'. This throws the spam back at the sender as many times as they try and spam you. It affixes a header which tells the mailer there is no one at the address.

It takes manually setting it the first time, but with KMail all you have to do is reply as 'bounce'. Soon no more spammers.

It's free with Linux.

I have a spam free world.

snooker
8 posted on 04/21/2003 5:02:20 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Flyer
I've received legitimate e-mails that said "don't respond to this e-mail" but had another address in the text for responses. Ususally they're automatic notices of some kind.
9 posted on 04/21/2003 5:05:00 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY
I've received legitimate e-mails that said "don't respond to this e-mail"

Yeah, that crosses my mind, but it should be possible to "ping" an address to see if it is valid.

10 posted on 04/21/2003 5:06:36 PM PDT by Flyer ()()()()()()()()
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To: Radix
MailWasher Pro v3.0 ... it has bounce capabilities, blacklist, etc. and works with the email while it is still on the server, before anything has to be downloaded to your machine ...
11 posted on 04/21/2003 5:09:11 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: snooker
I have a spam free world

Tell me more.

12 posted on 04/21/2003 5:14:14 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix
Obviously, we can't shoot spammers.

Do you really want to fight them? Do you? Here is a way. To do it you have to understand how spammers make money. To do so, they have to sell their services. To sell their services they have to (a) use a real not bogus email address, and (b) have a real phone number where you can call them. Otherwise, how are they going to process your credit card to get paid? But it is still not easy to track them down. They use phony registrar information for their web sites. The addresses they use are mail drops (like MailBoxes etc.)

But they have to be reachable by their customers. So with persistance you can eventually reach a phone number where someone will answer and admit to be working for a "bulk emailer." At that point, put your fax machine in autoredial on that phone number. Every time they pick up -- annoying squeal.

As far as I know, this is not illegal.

13 posted on 04/21/2003 5:14:41 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: steve-b
"Why the hell not? (shoot spammers)"

Because drawing and quartering is so much more satisfying???

14 posted on 04/21/2003 5:14:50 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Radix
Personally I'd prefer to hunt them down one by one like dogs, anywhere in the world they're hiding from a scorpion-infested hole in the Kalahari to the frozen, inhospitable caves of Tibet, put them on public display at COMDEX where they'd be forced to listen to vendor speeches for a week, and throw their writhing carcasses into a large pool filled with piranha.

It may not be as practical as a spam filter but it's lots more fun.

15 posted on 04/21/2003 5:15:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: snooker
One of the most effective ways to block spam is to 'bounce it'. This throws the spam back at the sender as many times as they try and spam you.

snooker, this idea doesn't really work. One of the most common spammer strategies is to use a valid email address that belongs to someone else as the "From" address. Your scheme will simply send one more email to this poor sucker. But they are already buried under the 10,000 bounced emails that came "back" from dead or nonexistant "sent to" addresses.

16 posted on 04/21/2003 5:18:44 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: Radix; All
Has anyone tried the freeware SpamPal?

Thumbs up or thumbs down?

17 posted on 04/21/2003 5:23:54 PM PDT by k2blader ("Go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both yes and no." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Radix
We changed our e-mail address and stopped using Outlook Express after getting a virus. We were being spammed with disgusting porn solicitations. After we got rid of the virus, we starting using Yahoo, and I don't get spam anymore.

(I don't encourage anyone to send me jokes because I don't want my e-mail address circulating all over the place.)
18 posted on 04/21/2003 5:24:18 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: steve-b
Obviously, we can't shoot spammers.

Why the hell not?

Ever try to CLEAN one?


Yeah, punch line to an old joke, I know...Explorer goes to a straw-hut restaurant specializing in cannibal fare. Menu lists several nationalities for $20 a serving.

Then it lists (Insert victim group...ummm I know) Spammer: $200.00

Explorer asks the cook why,

"Ever try to CLEAN one of those?"

19 posted on 04/21/2003 5:39:20 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: steve-b
Obviously, we can't shoot spammers.

Why the hell not?

Ever try to CLEAN one?


Yeah, punch line to an old joke, I know...Explorer goes to a straw-hut restaurant specializing in cannibal fare. Menu lists several nationalities for $20 a serving.

Then it lists (Insert victim group...ummm I know) Spammer: $200.00

Explorer asks the cook why,

"Ever try to CLEAN one of those?"

20 posted on 04/21/2003 5:41:09 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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