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Troops in search for prisoners 'buried alive in concrete grave'
The Times ^ | April 16, 2003 | Nick Parker

Posted on 04/15/2003 3:57:28 PM PDT by MadIvan

BRITISH troops were racing against time last night to free prisoners believed to have been buried alive by Saddam Hussein’s fleeing henchmen.

Army engineers were called in after British officers heard scratching beneath a wrecked statue of Saddam in al-Faw. Local people said they had seen two coachloads of prisoners being sealed into a secret chamber under the site.

Hundreds of Iraqis kept a vigil yesterday as engineers with pneumatic drills and a bulldozer worked to break through a yard of concrete believed to have been poured into a stairwell leading to the dungeon.

Several British troops said they had heard a response after they stopped digging, called for quiet and knocked on the ground.

The sound of a series of scratching noises has been distinct at least twice since work started on Monday afternoon.

Lieutenant-Colonel Simon Wolsey, of 29 Commando Royal Artillery, which called in the digging teams, said: “We stopped work and knocked on the floor after ordering complete silence and I definitely heard something.

“It sounded like someone scratching at the concrete from below. A medic who was with us used his stethoscope and confirmed he heard the noise. Locals are adamant that they saw coachloads of prisoners, possibly Kuwaitis from the last war, being brought here before the coalition forces arrived.

“We have an obligation to help if there is even the slightest chance of someone being alive down there.”

Men from 59 Commando Engineers were working in shifts inside the statue’s 30ft-high hollow plinth.

Others, backed by the bulldozer, were trying to burrow in from outside.

The steel figure of Saddam, which vanished during fighting, used to dominate a huge marble, pillared amphitheatre in al-Faw town which was dedicated to the tyrant.

British troops stepped in to help after finding local people on the site tearing at the rubble with their bare hands.

Staff Sergeant George Lamplough, 35, who was among the digger teams, said: “I’ve just worked 12 hours solid trying to get through the concrete, and it’s tough going.

“We can’t be sure we’ll find anything, but we’ve shown the locals that we believe what they’ve told us and that we’re willing to help.

“Noises have definitely been heard when we’ve stopped to listen, by some of us as well as the locals. So we’ll press on as long as necessary.”

Abu Alal, 47, a shopkeeper and the town’s self-appointed mayor, said yesterday: “We are certain that people are trapped underground and are very grateful to the British for their help.

“It would be a wonderful miracle if someone came out of there alive after all this time.”

The lavish amphitheatre was opened by Saddam 13 years ago and was once adorned with fountains clad in gleaming marble.

But Mr Alal said he recalled teams of foreign engineers arriving on the site and is convinced that a secret bunker complex was installed.

He pointed out masses of heavy-duty cables leading underground and said that two of the classical-style pillars were hollow air shafts. A heavy digging tool was later fitted to a bulldozer to aid the army teams last night.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alfaw; baathists; basra; blair; bunker; buriedalive; bush; dungeons; genevaconvention; humanrights; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqifreedom; pows; topplesaddam; uk; underground; us; war; warcime; warcrimes
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To: Free Trapper
Given the fact that Saddam and his Ba'ath party have killed, on average, 10,000 Iraqi citizens per year every year over the past 20 (NOT EVEN INCLUDING close to 2 million lives lost in the needless war with Iran), there's NO DOUBT that we've saved more lives than our action has cost.

This fact needs to be hammered home AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN -- but hardly anyone's talking about it.
101 posted on 04/15/2003 7:22:15 PM PDT by butter pecan fan
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102 posted on 04/15/2003 7:22:42 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: tracer
Gosh, I honestly didn't know that the company that rescued the company was Haliburton. Isn't that awful---what you say with the sarcasm button ON, the Rats wail about for real.

No surprise: as with the war itself, the Left (Rats) have proven that they believe it is better to see people enslaved, tortured, raped and murdered than to 1. use military force (which is inherently evil) and 2. risk any political advantage going to conservatives.
103 posted on 04/15/2003 7:24:30 PM PDT by fightinJAG (A liberal mind already is terribly wasted.)
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To: MinuteGal
Wouldn't it be something if prisoners were raised alive in Easter Week?

From your keyboard to God's Eyes!! I'll be praying hard for these folks this week!!

104 posted on 04/15/2003 7:33:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Free Trapper
I know it's reaching but I wonder what the left would say if our guys saved more lives than are lost in this war?

Shoot, I imagine they'd ignore that. That's what happens when you introduce facts to a liberal. In one ear, out the other and never stopping to visit in between . . .

105 posted on 04/15/2003 7:35:50 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: goodnesswins
"I'm having lunch with a friend who tells me I need to consider the feelings of the rest of the world (i.e. watch CBC, BBC, etc.) and is sending me a letter from some German friends....to give me a "different perspective." (She's Canadian, now Naturalized American). "

. . .don't know what to say; except 'enjoy lunch'; stay away from current events. . .politically incorrect conversation. . .her feelings. . .and of course, favorite websites!

. . .as for the 'feelings' of Leftists; they seem to overlook the fact that the luxury of their perspective was paid for by the sacrifice of 'innocent' lives in real wars. . .

Also seems by their current standards of judgement; Nazi war criminals would have been considered 'freedom fighters'. . .

106 posted on 04/15/2003 7:39:36 PM PDT by cricket
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To: butter pecan fan
I completely agree.

I was thinking of numbers only from the beginning of the war to the end of the hostile actions.

It would be one for the books. :o)

107 posted on 04/15/2003 7:40:42 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: Dog Gone
Where is al-Faw?


When were they buried? Not very good reporting on the incident, a British newspaper?
108 posted on 04/15/2003 7:47:58 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: MadIvan
How evil were these people? Very evil, very evil indeed.

They were just so vindictive that evil is the only word.

109 posted on 04/15/2003 7:49:12 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: COURAGE
Isn't there a website makeing fun of this guy? URL?
110 posted on 04/15/2003 7:51:23 PM PDT by The FRugitive
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To: oyez
"I think these 'toons and letters are introspective of many shallow and selfish individuals. I would also go as far to say they can't reason their way out of a paper bag."

. . .this is true. . .

111 posted on 04/15/2003 7:53:42 PM PDT by cricket
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To: The FRugitive
"blood-sucking bastards"
Mohammed Saeed Sahhaf

112 posted on 04/15/2003 7:54:39 PM PDT by COURAGE
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To: Cordova Belle
Goodness, is this it? Is this typical of letters to the editor in Seattle?

If so, things are much worse off ideologically in the Pacific Northwest than I could have imagined.

Were there none in support of Bush and what we did in Iraq? Did not a single person say "I blew it?"

Typical of the left coast, koolaid drinking libs, the worst kind, they don't even think for themselves. Another reason it is time for the big-one so that Nevada and Arizona can have some ocean front property.
113 posted on 04/15/2003 8:00:48 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: cricket
stay away from all that stuff....NOT ME!!!!! LOL....I consider myself an "educator" and no one can stop me!
114 posted on 04/15/2003 8:20:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (CNN...the MOST TRUSTED in News......by CRIMINALS!)
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To: Benjamin Dover; MinuteGal; carlo3b
I suspect that WMD's will not be the real story in Iraq. They'll be found bit by bit, but the human atrocities will be the real story. Saddam will go down as bad, if not worse than Hitler. We've only been looking; unobstructed, for a couple of days. Just wait. I fear it gets worse.

The threat of WMD were hanging over the head of the U.S. and Israel and other enemies of Saddam. They were a serious threat to world security.

But the day to day horror suffered by the Iraqi people defies description. I think most of us knew there were atrocities, but never in my wildest imagination did I think they were as bad as what we are hearing. I think Saddam is far worse than Hitler and knowing what we know about Hitler and after asking for 50 years, why did we let it happen, we find the same appeasers at work, and the likes of CNN aiding and abetting, and complicit in the propaganda.

I'm furious and crying.

If I hear one more idiot ask, "but what if we don't find weapons of mass destruction," I'm going to puke. Who the hell cares. They've already found tons of evidence of weapons violations (which of course, the left ignores). Freeing the Iraqi people from torture and fear of torture and being treated worse than animals is more than enough justification. Gee, maybe we should find out they tortured animals and the left would finally be outraged.

115 posted on 04/15/2003 10:55:55 PM PDT by christie
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To: christie
Excellent, excellent post, Christie.

You said it all in a nutshell.

Leni

116 posted on 04/15/2003 11:14:03 PM PDT by MinuteGal (THIS JUST IN ! Astonishing fare reduction for FReeps Ahoy Cruise! Check it out, pronto!)
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To: MadIvan; All
The U.S. just recovered 123 emaciated people, five of whom are Female, from an Underground Prison - Torture Chamber complex.

This is being reported by The Straits Times this morning.

www.command-post.org

117 posted on 04/15/2003 11:14:08 PM PDT by Lael (Well, I Guess he DIDN'T go wobbly in the legs!! Now, "W", lets do the REST of the AXIS of EVIL!!)
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To: MinuteGal
Thanks Leni. I guess that's my rant for the year.
118 posted on 04/15/2003 11:40:58 PM PDT by christie
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To: christie


The left only hates those that oppose IT!

MEGA-

Stay Strong
Fuzzy

119 posted on 04/16/2003 12:27:35 AM PDT by fuzzy122
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To: Lael
Is this a liget source? If this is true wouldn't the media be all over it?

I still pray it is true.....
120 posted on 04/16/2003 12:37:25 AM PDT by LUVYA DUBYA 2000 ( George W. exceeded all expectations!!!! WTG DUBYA!)
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