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RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM...
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Posted on 04/12/2003 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rocko

RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM... // Top secret documents obtained by the Sunday Telegraph in Baghdad show that Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between Tony Blair and other Western leaders... MORE...


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To: RusIvan
While you excuse Tarzan in Miami Beach I'll see you tomorrow cancer enabler . Grigorio Loutchansky . Mr. Mikhailov . Shabtai Kalmanovitch . I believe he is a charming tanned man out of Sierra Leone .

Balagula's main contact I think . Go call your people and I'll see you tomorrow when I have some time to waste .

481 posted on 04/12/2003 11:26:29 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: EaglesUpForever
wasn't he the father of terrorism?i saw his visage on those curtains as a bad sign.
482 posted on 04/12/2003 11:28:50 PM PDT by faithincowboys (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: faithincowboys
do you like putin? +++

He is best from possible for now.

do you mind that lenin's image has resurfaced in the halls of power? +++

I think that none does care. It just like they saved money so didn't buy new curtails.

what do you think of chirac and shroeder? ++

Accually nothing. I don't trust them or no one.

comfortable with putin's and russia's involvement with hussein and the baathists? +++

It was just for profit. Saddam is one of many. If USA involved iwth Saudis which is same dictators so why Saddam is so bad?

what does the average yuri and natasha on the street think of putin and his alliance with france and germany?+++

It is not allience just special interest group.
But Europe are nearer then US. So average people know them much better.

That is all. My head are dizzy already. I quit for now. Good bye everyone.
483 posted on 04/12/2003 11:36:21 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
You and yours have been pulling this shit for 40 years . 5th column bastards .
484 posted on 04/12/2003 11:45:43 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: squarebarb
It's actually the new identity of the Iraqi propaganda minister. ;)

Iraqi spies were trained in Russia, maybe he was too, and he is just continuing his job this way.

"There are no American troops in Iraq. There are no Russian weapons in Iraq. Putin has never heard of Saddam. There is no oil in Iraq." How is this? ;)
485 posted on 04/13/2003 12:10:45 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Rocko
Well, no more Crawford barbecues for Putin... unless he's the main course.
486 posted on 04/13/2003 12:35:56 AM PDT by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: FairOpinion
It's actually the new identity of the Iraqi propaganda minister. ;) +++

Yea yea it is me. Just sitting under the base of Saddam statue with small computer and read up FR as I did all those years.

But you then reincarnation of James Forrestal:))).
487 posted on 04/13/2003 12:50:43 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
James Forrestal

---

Sounds more like he was right.

"Rogow concedes that Forrestal was an avid
reader who often exchanged books with his friends and was a genuine student of Marxism. His alleged
"clearinghouse" may reflect mainly the interests of a concerned and highly intelligent man. The "irrational"
conclusions he reached as a result of his readings in Marxism were that something akin to the Cold War was
inevitable, that the Soviet Union would exploit the power vacuums left by the defeats of Germany and Japan,
and that Russia would expand. However, Friedrich insists on presenting these concerns as symptoms of
abnormality.

We do not deny that Forrestal was under great stress at the end of his career. However, we have found no
convincing evidence that he was dangerously psychotic or incapable of discharging his duties while in office.
There is no justification for saying that his policies and positions were somehow the products of a diseased
mind, unless we are willing to make the same assumptions about literally millions of people who have
entertained similar beliefs. Nevertheless, they have been interpreted as such in Forrestal's case.

Today, however, Forrestal seems to be remembered, not for his prescience and courage, but for his suicide
and alleged insanity. Perhaps this is just one example of how the label of mental illness may keep holders of
unconventional but possible valuable ideas from being heard. Dismissing such people may often amount to
courting ignorance in the name of psychiatric knowledge."

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/OAS/oas_pdf/v60/p89_92.pdf
488 posted on 04/13/2003 1:00:28 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: RusIvan
Saddam regime? Heh heh:).
What Russia was interested in respect with Saddam is preservation of international law and role of UN. Saddam or not Saddam.
Because now everyone can war on everyone. No law left in the world.

Whoa. Now you've proven you're a paid liar.

489 posted on 04/13/2003 1:07:14 AM PDT by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: EaglesUpForever
You are absolutely correct. I have worked with a lady from the old USSR for the past 10 years. She vows that Lenin was on the right course and that Stalin wrecked everything. She also hates Gorbachav.
490 posted on 04/13/2003 1:12:24 AM PDT by JDGreen123
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To: laz17
Whoa. Now you've proven you're a paid liar.+++

Okey if it is easy for your brains but where is my pay?
491 posted on 04/13/2003 1:26:41 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
This things was publicised in russian press. Anyone may read.

That May be true, However, now 80% of the american people are reading it, they are PISSED, and their President already has Congressional approval to seek out terrorism and those who support it,where ever..;)

492 posted on 04/13/2003 3:58:30 AM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: Miss Marple
With so much confusion going on in Baghdad right now, it seems odd that something like this would have been found and taken to a western journalist. It is very mysterious.

Actually, I dare say the confusion makes this ideal. Now let's suppose an enterprising Iraqi raids the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the looting. And let's suppose this Iraqi, being a clever chap, finds some documents from Russia that are of interest. Now let's suppose he realises that instead of the furniture in the offices, he's stumbled across something more valuable to sell to the Western Press. And he does.

Under normal circumstances, security would prevent such disclosures - the confusion makes the atmosphere ideal for such disclosures.

Regards, Ivan

493 posted on 04/13/2003 4:01:13 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: FairOpinion
If only we knew the fate of the American prisoners from WWII and Korea that were transported to Russia.

These rats will never be our "friends" and it's too bad we didn't solve this problem in 1945! If we had there wouldn't have been a Korean or a Vietnam war and Eastern Europe wouldn't have had to endure decades of slavery under the Russian yoke.

494 posted on 04/13/2003 4:07:37 AM PDT by LuisBasco
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To: MadIvan
Good point. Myself, I wondered if we were taking advantage of the looting to get some intel. For all I know a CIA guy could have given it to the Telegraph, so that they could get it in the press without the US government being involved.

Very, very disapponting about Putin. If he knew about this, he will be getting an unpleasant phone call soon.

495 posted on 04/13/2003 4:44:23 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: LuisBasco
Eastern Europe wouldn't have had to endure decades of slavery under the Russian yoke.
+++

Slavary under russians? What you talking about?

My family never had no eastern europian slaves. It was Russia who was enslaved under rule of Soviet communists.

They order us to pump oil for free to Eastern Europe. Those our "slaves" lived better then avarage russians.
496 posted on 04/13/2003 4:48:20 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
The basic rights and liberties of the human being shall be inalienable and shall belong to everyone from birth. ..."

The problem is the relationship. as i have described and the fact you have apparently been brainwashed to think we have the same relationship with our respective governments.

Your gov't "shall protect" your rights. Our gov't "Shall not infringe" our rights. Think deeply about it. The relationships are different.

For example, your gov;t shall protect each and every individuals rights therefore when it comes to hard decisions your gov't will make the choice for whomever benefits the most individuals. In ours, the rights of oen individual trump the rights of all the rest when formed as a gov't.

497 posted on 04/13/2003 6:26:32 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: RusIvan
Common resume was like I said the civil rights wasn't granted but supported.

How can an entity protect something it doesn't control ? What you fall prey to is clever wording to disguise a relationship.

Think in terms of your own property. In order to "protect" something you have to have control over it.

Face it you swallowed and are still swallowing propoganda. Our constitutions are founded under diamtrically opposed relationships. That is why the difference in shall and shall not.

498 posted on 04/13/2003 6:35:14 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Cindy
BUMP FOR THAT POST!
499 posted on 04/13/2003 7:00:42 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth.....)
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To: Dog Gone
No, spying isn't. Proxy proliferation is close, and in some respects worse. Forwarding lists of assassins to use for politically motivated "hits" in the west is well beyond the pale.
500 posted on 04/13/2003 7:24:53 AM PDT by JasonC
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