The News from Ireland: A visit to Belfast.

There were big demonstrations in Northern Ireland on Tuesday. Around 2,000 people, from both the South and the North of the divided island, converged on the fine old 18th-century manor house, rather misleadingly called a "castle," at Hillsborough in County Down. Ten miles away in Belfast city center, several hundred more took part in a prayer vigil outside the city hall.

A casual observer might have thought that the old civil-rights movement of the late 1960s had come back to life, an impression that would have been fortified by the presence, at the first of those demonstrations, of an old war horse from that period: Bernadette McAliskey (formerly Devlin), last in the news a month ago when she was deported from the U.S. as "a threat to national security." But no, civil rights were not the issue here. These were protests respectively against and for the war in Iraq, occasioned by George W. Bush's visit to the province to meet with the prime ministers of Britain and Ireland.

In a way, it is cheering to see people in Northern Ireland demonstrating about something that has nothing to do with their ancient quarrels. It is, in fact, a measure of the success of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, which celebrates its fifth birthday today, that they have turned out for these demonstrations. On closer inspection, things are not quite as bright as all that, but in this neck of the woods, you take your grounds for optimism any place you can find them.

The first thing to be said about those demonstrations is that though sectarian passions did not supply the occasion for them, the two events were sectarian nonetheless. The antiwar crowd at Hillsborough were pretty solidly nationalist (which is to say republican, and largely Catholic). In fact Sinn Féin, the IRA's political operation, was one of the main organizers of the Hillsborough protest. They got little thanks for this from the participants. Sinn Féin's president, Gerry Adams, had agreed to meet with Bush during the Hillsborough visit, and for this the party chairman, Mitchel McLaughlin, was booed when he tried to deliver an address.

The pro-war people at city hall, by contrast, were solidly unionist (which is to say pro-British, largely Protestant). Among them in fact was David Trimble, leader of the Ulster Unionist party, who passed the following opinion about Sinn Féin's presence at the other event: "These were people who were quite happy to kill for an ignoble cause, who were prepared to pursue a war to undermine democracy, and who now oppose the liberation of people and the freeing of them from what is undoubtedly an evil dictatorship."

This unionist/nationalist pro/antiwar split reverses traditional attitudes. Catholic Irishmen have historically been well-disposed towards the U.S.A., the great haven to which so many millions of them fled from starvation and cruelty. Evelyn Waugh once remarked that: "To the Irishman there are only two ultimate realities: hell and the United States." John F. Kennedy is still a hero to many Irish people, though Ronald Reagan, whose roots were every bit as Irish, is somewhat less so. (Reagan's mother was unfortunately "orange," not "green.") The Protestants of Ulster, on the other hand, have long nursed a deep suspicion of the U.S. — or at any rate of our politicians, whom they believe are in thrall to the Irish-American vote, and are plotting to force them into a united Ireland run by people who hate them. I have heard from more than one sober Ulsterman that the IRA is a CIA "front" operation run from Teddy Kennedy's Senate office; and the fact that IRA terrorist operations were financed largely by fundraising in the U.S. has always been bitterly resented.

A number of factors explain the reversal of attitudes. For one thing, Ulster Protestants — like the people of the American south, with whom they share a common Scotch-Irish ancestry — are a warrior people, who for centuries have supplied Britain with some of her best fighting men. (As they similarly supplied George Washington.) Their instinct, again like their cousins in our own south, is to support any military action their country is engaged in. George W. Bush is also well liked by the Ulstermen, or at least not seriously disliked, as he seems less inclined to meddle in the affairs of the Province than other recent presidents — U.S. meddling being generally believed to be, intentionally or not, for the benefit of Irish nationalists.

Nationalist politics in Northern Ireland, on the other hand, has now been pretty much taken over by the IRA's political operation, Sinn Féin; and Sinn Féin, its extensive and very successful fundraising network in the USA notwithstanding, is a left-wing anti-American party. You can get the general idea from their English-language websites, in articles like this, but for the full flavor you have to read their publications in Gaelic. Gerry Adams's lads, like Yasser Arafat's (with whom they have conducted joint training exercises), speak one way to those they seek to persuade — or relieve of their cash — in the outside world, but quite another way to their own troops. My Irish is not up to this task, so I am going to rely on some of the translations offered up last week by Niall O'Dowd in Irish Voice. Samples (this is O'Dowd writing):

One of the jocular suggestions in Sinn Féin's party newspaper, An Phoblacht / Republican News, this week was that Sinn Féin members at the party's annual Ard Fheis (convention) might contemplate "guzzling 17 pints of lager and swallowing six kebabs," and "throwing up outside the US Embassy on the way home" from the convention because of the war.

...the Irish language columnist notes that one of the lies spread about Saddam Hussein was that he was a useless dictator who had weapons of mass destruction. The columnist notes (and this is my translation) that the same "lie" was fed to the media so much that people started listening to the propaganda.

There is ill-disguised glee that the southern Iraqis did not rise up and celebrate when the American and British arrived. No discussion whatever of the reports that they are held at gunpoint by Saddam's thugs and find it impossible to do so.

The Irish Republican orthodoxy is, of course, that America is bad wherever it is in the world. There is no discussion in An Phoblacht, for instance, of the vicious crackdown on Cuban dissidents that might damage the polished image of Fidel Castro as socialist hero.

Though Sinn Féin's anti-Americanism is egregious, milder sentiments of the same kind are actually very widespread in the Irish Republic. The old "priest-ridden potato republic" sneered at for decades by northern Protestants is long gone. The Irish Republic is now a prosperous, comfortable little European country. She is, in fact, more European than the U.K. There lurks in the heart of every Irishman the urge to belong to something big and international, preferably something the British do not like, or at least have mixed feelings about. For several centuries the Catholic Church filled this role; but the Church is in sad decline in modern Ireland. Just barely half of Irish people attend Mass regularly. Religious vocations have fallen so far (from 254 in 1990 to less than 90 at the end of the decade) that recruits to the priesthood are being imported from Nigeria. The religious communities of monks and nuns that made Ireland "the land of saints and scholars" now have only 11 percent of their inmates under 50 years of age. The fastest-growing religion in Ireland today is... you know what. Dublin has at least three mosques, and mosques are open or building in Cavan, Ballyhaunis, Cork, Limerick, Galway, and Waterford.

In their devotion to the United Nations, the Irish are even more European than the Europeans. They are thick on the ground at U.N. headquarters in New York: My own tour, circa 1987, was conducted by a young Irishman. There is invariably an Irish contingent in every U.N. peace-keeping force, and the Irish prime minister, Bertie Ahern, made a point of telling George W. Bush at their Tuesday meeting that the U.N. should have the primary role in postwar reconstruction of Iraq. The Irish Republic is, in short, an enthusiastic member of the Axis of Weasel.

Not every Irishman is on board with that, though. Six years ago, Dublin-born Ian Malone decided, a little late in life — he was 22 — to pursue a career as a professional soldier. Discovering that he was too old to be accepted by the Irish Army, he briefly considered the French Foreign Legion, then decided to join the 600 men from the Irish Republic currently serving in the British armed forces (who themselves follow the example of the 60,000 Irish citizens who volunteered to fight in the British army against the Nazis in WW2). After swearing an oath of loyalty to the queen, Malone became a private in the Irish Guards regiment, and was eventually promoted to Lance Corporal. His battalion was one of the units that went into Basra last week. Getting out of his armored vehicle on Sunday, Lance Corporal Malone was picked off by a Fedayeen sniper, becoming the first Irish citizen in 50 years to die on service with the British army.

The Irish Republic is, in short, an enthusiastic member of the Axis of Weasel.

Disgusting!

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Aculeus, me and you both know that Sinn Fein are scumbag socialists. And I'm an Irish Catholic girl. Go figure!!!

And the National Review is WAY over the top in it's coverage of this. 2000 protesters in NI? *LOL* That's less than a handful. You think SF can't muster that many?

I think three bus loads went from the REPUBLIC of Ireland. (So that would be 150 MAX..so counter in disillusioned students, and your common or garden anti-American and I'd say that's quite a wash out). Hell there are more anti-Bush people in Housten, Texas. (Just ask the Dixie Chicks). To suggest that the Republic of Ireland is part of the 'Axis of Weasels' is wrong. Troops still fly through Shannon, and we are a 'neutral' country. Gotta count for something!

Getting out of his armored vehicle on Sunday, Lance Corporal Malone was picked off by a Fedayeen sniper, becoming the first Irish citizen in 50 years to die on service with the British army.

BTW...my grandfather fought, and was injured, with the British army troops in WWI. His son served with the Irish Army Peace Keeping UN force in the Congo.

I think this author needs to stop picking on the 'grunts' of the armed forces. Both my grandfather, and his son (my uncle) were damned proud of their soldiering.

Actually aculeus, the more I read this article the more I see it as complete BULLSHIT.

I'm sorry, but this author knows NOTHING of Ireland, and her grass roots people. You must remember that Bertie Ahern (as much as I dislike him) is An Taoiseach, and while he is a dithering fool, he is also the leader of Fianna Fail (a very 'republican' per se, party), and it was HE (not the socialist Labour Party) that kept Shannon open to US troops, despite the second UN resolution.

I really think this author is clouded in both his judgement and reasoning on this one.

My Uncle Jimmy emigrated from Ireland and joined the Army when he arrived. He fought through Europe and passed last year. His grandson Brian is a 1st Lt in the USMC in Iraq.

My Uncle always a gleam in his eye, a brogue on his tongue and an impish smile when pulling a leg. I am sure he is smiling down on Brian right now.

I am sure he is smiling down on Brian right now.

Smiling? I'm sure there's a star beaming down on him.

My own Uncle Pat was in the Congo on a UN peace keeping mission in the 1960's. I hadn't seen him for a couple of months, but he called and visited recently..I asked him (In view of his UN service) what he thought of the action against Iraq.

He said..'I'm all for it. No point in pussy-footing around bastards like Saddam Hussein'.

Only sort of members of Weaseldom, I would say...Most of the Irish (from the Republic) I met in Ireland last winter were very pro-US, and even then thought something had to be done about Iraq. I think Ireland is probably like many places: there's a big difference between the opinions of the talking heads and the "intellectuals," and the real feeling of the country.

That's about the way my Uncle saw it. I went down to SC to visit with him when he was ill about a year before he passed on. I brought him a hat from President Bush's inaugaration and he wore it until the day he died. When he passed on my Aunt gave the hat to Brian because as my Aunt said, Brian is like you John and your Uncle Jimmy, he's a conservative. :-}

Derbyshire is -- I believe -- extremely "British" (if you know what I mean) and is no doubt accenting the negative.
Andrew Sullivan has -- I think -- locked horns with him in the past over his rigid views.

As for Americans of Scotch-Irish descent being warriors, that may be the case, but anyone familiar with Irish Catholic Americans knows they have been over-represented in US armed forces in all of our wars. See for example The Fighting 69th (with Jimmy Cagney and Pat O'Brien, members in good standing in Hollywood's old Irish Mafia) or Father Duffy's statue in Duffy Square (just North of Times Square). Fr. Duffy was the 68ths chaplain, played by Pat O'Brien in the movie.

Recently I read that many American Southerners were anti-Irish following our Civil War because so many Irish Catholics served in the Union Army.

(But I still despise the loathsome Adams and his stupid supporters in the USA.)

But I still despise the loathsome Adams and his stupid supporters in the USA.

Oh so do I.

But aculeus, this article is akin to the 'Baghdad Bob' realm of propaganda if you think about it. It is neither balanced, nor fair.

I was right about Derbyshire and Andrew Sullivan. AS gives out awards for people taking extreme views. Here's the one named after JD.

THE DERBYSHIRE AWARD:

Nominees are solicited for statements by public figures or writers that amount to right-wing hyperbole, hate-speech or manic paranoia. The award is in honor of one John Derbyshire, a paleo-conservative contributor to National Review Online, and provocative commentator on all things gay, black, female or sexual.

I take it this 'wanker' is really a 'wanker' then? ;-)

If he's anti-everything Sullivan claims he is he's probably anti-Irish and anti-Catholic as well.

That's all for me. G'night!

NAH..just makes him a Nazi.

Ireland has her problems, but they aren't insurmountable.

Just wish this author had the strenth to get over himself!!!!..I mean, if a nation can come to terms with itself, is it too much to expect this Fisk-oid to find the 'road to Damascus'?

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